Yeah BG, when I googled it, it said that it can be used in males, (think it might have something to do with cancer??) but there was something about using too much of it...and i can't really remember.
He was just being a worry wart, especially as he is going to do another SA, (3rd one) sometime next week hopefully. He is also going for his first ever blood test at 31.
IUI wise, we were told around 20-25% success rate - which i don't think is unreasonable - i guess it matches up with the success rates for natural conception
re the needles, i think most of us do our own, although our trusty male influence Rols give his wife the injections each night cos she was a little needle phobic to start out - it's really not as scary as it seems when you start out!
We were told the same as BG, around 20%, generally the same as natural conception but you are probably able to pinpoint ovulation a bit better.
Goodluck!
Hahaha i am glad im not the only one who feels like daring their DH to take a needle for the team! Unfortunately we are both petrified of needles i definately can't give them to myself (i tried and was hysterical for an hour!) so DH gives me mine and i am ok with that so long as he doesn't hesitate or forget to dial up the drugs! Argghhh but he absolutely refuses to give the trigger injections (big chicken!) so that job falls to the MIL (im sure she loves it!). Although i never thought of the ice thing before great idea Rols!
Happymel - Good luck today with EPU, hope everything goes smoothly and you are feeling great this afternoon with lots of eggies!
Rols - you crack me up! Don't stress about the fertilisation just remember while you may not have the normal 20 mil or more you only need 23 good ones! You will be fine my husband has dodgier morphology/count/motility than you and we had no problem with ICSI.
Lou - Nice to see you pop in again and im glad you are feeling so good!
As for us not much babymaking wise still waiting for AF should be in about a week or so away, i can't wait to get started again although not looking forward to 10 days on synarel with no injections..... hot flushes here i come! DH may need to move out i get very clingy! And the poor thing he got a new job on Tuesday with a great payrise so living on 1 income will be a lot easier if i ever get to have maternity leave but his first week will be when i start the synarel... hehe.
Good luck everyone esp those girls sniffing, injecting, picking up, transferring and in the TWW!
Thanks Deni.
let's hope this month is a fluke BFP and you wont have to venture down this track, but if it isn't at least you know your not alone.
Thanks for everyone's confidence in me. I am going to be extra brave at today's clinic appointment and hopefully this time there will be no nurses asking me if I need an ice pack for my head and a lie down!!
Briggsy's girl thanks for your lovley note. I'm going to spend some time today reading your journal. I am sorry to read that your last cycle resulted in a chemical pregnancy. It must be such a rollercoaster thinking you are, only to find out that your not... I wish you all the luck for your next attempt.
Rols, make sure you let us know how everything goes with DW.
Nic & Smithy - nah haven't done it yet, it will be one of those ongoing dares until she wears me down.
As for IVF drugs and males, the Puregon is used to treat a few reproductive type disorders (developmental I think) in males. Don't know about the others. There's no way you'd catch me sniffing Synarel that's for sure. I might grown an unwanted ovary and DW has more than enough for both of us at the moment.
Hi Deni and welcome. I think a couple of pages back I mentioned our needle situation, and if you do a search of my posts there will other references from earlier. But as BG said, DW is not a needle fan club member, and I therefore offered to look after it. Basically, she'd nearly faint talking about needles and would need all sorts of distraction tricks to have BTs in the past. However, she had another BT this morning and such is her total lack of carefactor any more that she forgot to mention it when she rang me this morning, and then when I asked her, her attitude was like "oh yeah, fine, whatever, and as I was saying...". The turn around in her attitude has been amazing. As I said to Leeshie recently, when you're faced with circumstances and you're very focussed on the outcome, a lot of the mental stuff gets sorted out fairly quickly I think. It's really nowhere near as bad as you might think and I know that DW was very concerned about all the needles before we started IVF.
The reason I've continued to do the needles is just simply so DW doesn't stress about them and have to prepare them etc. I'm quite happy doing it all for her and it makes me feel slightly less guilty about putting her through all of this in the first place. She reckons it's a big help so that's good enough for me.
Shannon, thanks for your encouraging words and it's actually made me feel a lot better. It's just biology as I keep telling myself! I don't understand how a heart can beat nonstop for 80+ years, but it does, and so it follows (At least in my mind) that it can't be that hard for sperm to do its thing. It's just typical of me, if I don't get how something works I get dubious about it.
Thanks for the warm welcome guys. Leeshie, have you started your needles yet? Is it Puregon you'll be taking?
Rols, it's lovely you're able to help your DW with those things. I think my DH has taken it on board too as something he'll be able to be "involved" in - and he's been in the past fly in/fly out for a mining job but only recently has taken a long stint of leave and is moving to a Perth based job so I'm so thrilled he'll be around for all of this to make things easier.
It's friday, Yippee!! have a good weekend everyone. Best wishes to all undergoing procedures in the next few days !
Hi everyone, thanks for all the good wishes! Well, just quick note for now, feeling sleepy ++. I got big surprise.... 12 eggs. Ha, what do those nurses think they're doing!! Heee. Already down to 11, and from that 8 are great, 3 not as good but will have to wait and see how they're are going tomorrow. The scientist even said DH seprm looked good, hmm, DH and i are like, WTF!!!
Was a long morning, feeling really crampy, the nurse cut me with a pair of scissors, the whole process was totally diff than last time.... and well i dont think i ever want to see Hunter's Hill hosp ever again!! (apart from t/f!!). Will tell more later, but was totally unhappy with it all.
Hope everyone is well, message later, Mel
Haven't posted on this particular thread before but I see some familar faces from lurking around other threads.
As a short intro I am on my second IVF cycle, first one having been cancelled as I overdid the follie factory bit and ended up with an eostregen count over 22000! though lucky for me no OHSS side effects.
I am taking my last Puregon and Pregnyl shots tonight and EPU on Monday at 8am. Sounds a bit silly but as I didn't even get that far last time I am so estactic I think the nurse thought I'd lost it when she called to confirm EPU after my BT's today. I think I might have deafened her on the phone!
I've seen lots of posts about the needles...have to do my own as DH would faint (Rols - good job there - I'm suitably impressed). Anyone on the pregnyl would remember there is a big thick attachment to suck the fluid up with..I told DH that was the needle and could he please give it to me......well I have to get my fun somewhere and I didn't know humans could go that green! DH's contribution to this exercise (apart from the obvious of course) is to tell me how brave I am and he wishes he could take my place (Like I believe that!).
Just a quick little post from me... had my second round of blood tests today, and haven't really recovered. I'm normally find with blood tests and have no problems what so ever - was used to regular blood tests long before we started IVF... Today's problem was that they took 11 vials of blood! A fasting blood test, then 11 vials! I've been rather faint and wobbly at work ever since even though I'm trying to eat, drink and rest as much as possible.
Hello and a big welcome to the new folk - I promise to catch up properly later.
Shelly, we're at the same stage basically. Final Puregon tonight and Pregnyl trigger (0.6ml reduced dosage coz DW's levels high at BT today) and EPU Sunday morning 0945.
When looking at the Pregnyl drawing/mixing needle, I initially forgot what its purpose was. I nearly crapped myself at the thought of trying to push that one in.
Hi all- Rols i think its great that you are able to share in some of the work that IVF brings.Good luck with EPU tomorrow.
BW- blood tests are never nice i sure dont enjoy them.
Mel- thats awesome news darl you should be pretty over the moon about that.
Big :HELLO: to any new comers and sorry if ive missed anyone else.
Me- I had my second ultrasound yesterday and the final count was 22 follies.I was meant to have EPU on monday or tuesday but they have have put it back til thursdays. They are all still trying to grow big and strong. The nurse said cause i have so many and there not to far apart in size they dont just want to waste the smaller ones. They want to be able to give them a chance to catch up to the rest. My levels arent to high so i guess there able to wait abit longer. 9 are between 15 and 13mm and the rest are at 10mm. Another scan on monday to make sure its the real deal for thursday. Im so ready to get off this rollercoaster cause this hole thing is really doing my head in. Anyway thats enough from me, better be off now
Take care and all the best to everyone XX
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DH's contribution to this exercise (apart from the obvious of course) is to tell me how brave I am and he wishes he could take my place (Like I believe that!).
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