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thread: Long Term TTC & Assisted Conception - July/August 09

  1. #55
    Registered User

    Jul 2009
    Sydney
    50

    Just looked and my post and realised it reads like I didn't want my DH here - I meant that he's here, of course, but my family isn't lol

  2. #56
    Registered User

    Jul 2009
    London
    19

    Hi ladies,
    Please bear with me I am going to rant.I need to get this out of my system.

    I had gone for my appointment today to have a scan, BTand the Dialapan insertion before starting the gonodotropin injections.
    The doctor who scanned me today was the same person who had done a HyCosy scan a month ago and a month ago she had noticed some abnormality in the uterus(septum in the cavity) and she had discussed this with her senior collegue but she did not bother to inform me about this. The clinic made me have all the down reg. pills and medications and today when I went there for my appointment the same doctor after reading my notes realised this .

    She did not bother to apologise for not letting me know about this and making me take all the medications unnecessarily instead she just left me lying on the table with my legs on the stirups only to return half an hour later to say "I am sorry you cannot proceed with this cycle my senior college will talk to you about this, now you can dress up and go BYE BYE".

    This senior doctor says "Sorry we cannot proceed without sorting this, I know it is nuisance to have all those injections and have no treatment but I can assure you no harm is done".
    I realise that IVF treatment can be called off at various stages due to biological unpredictability, but we have been subjected to unnecessary anguish just because of a communication error.
    I need to have a repeat Hysteroscopy and get this surgically corrected before we proceed.When I googled it I found out that it is a congenital issue.
    Now what I don't understand is I have had a HSG,a Hysteroscopy, a laporoscopy in the past year and numerous other internal scans in the 8 years that we are TTC and none of them picked this septum issue.
    Another 3-4 months wasted given the way the system works here.

    Thanks for letting me rant.

    Take Care
    Last edited by Vira; July 18th, 2009 at 04:39 AM.

  3. #57
    Registered User

    Jul 2009
    London
    19

    emmy lyri-

    Hi Tantee,
    Thank you for thinking about me.
    Dilapan is a rod that is placed inside the cervix( if it is too tight )to dialate it a bit so that access on the day of embryo transfer is easier. This rod is left in place for 4 hours and then removed afterwards.Guess dilapan has to wait for a while now.
    Last edited by Vira; July 18th, 2009 at 04:40 AM.

  4. #58
    Registered User

    Jul 2009
    Sydney
    50

    Vira, I have just read your post and I am in disbelief. What a complete balls up. I can't believe your doctor did not inform you of what she had found (A) and (B) was not completely apologetic and mortified at her mistake. To make you go so far into the cycle and forget that you had a condition that would not allow you to proceed is insane. I have to say your rant is a lot calmer than mine would have been!!! You are one strong person that's for sure. The only thing I can say is that if they haven't spotted this in the 8 years you've been TTC then possibly once it's rectified you'll be on your way to success You have my sincere empathy and very best wishes for success

  5. #59
    Registered User

    Jun 2009
    Orange
    84

    Vira,

    My sincere best wishes to you at this frustrating point in your journey
    What has happened to you is totally unacceptable and all the more irritating because you could have found out about it much earlier than this.

    I am sorry also for the way you were left lying on the table - it's not good enough.

    As Jasminstar said,

    The only thing I can say is that if they haven't spotted this in the 8 years you've been TTC then possibly once it's rectified you'll be on your way to success

    Perhaps this is a really positive way you can look at this? I don't want to sound patronising but sometimes I find it helps to write a letter outlining all of your grievances. Be as forthright as you want and then print it off and tear it up! It is more therapeutic than I ever knew.

    We are all thinking of you and wish you all the best for your next hyst.

  6. #60
    Registered User

    Jul 2009
    82

    OMG Vira! I can't belive the incompetence of some of these people. I mean, I know they are the experts and we go to them for help... but this is just a HUGE slip up. I'm so sorry for you. I can sympathise with the "how come they havn't picked it up on earlier tests" bit. I asked my FS to consider endo four years ago (and several times since) and he said, oh no you dont' have any symptoms... so I never had a lap done. DH and I stopped treatment for a while cos I just wasn't in the right headspace. I changed to a new clinic and the new FS said same thing... no endo symptoms. Fortuntately on the US he booked for us it showed a small cyst so they went in, and whamo! it was all over my left hand side. I was mad for a bit because it's been four years of TTC... but now I'm just pleased it has finally been sorted. Fingers crossed for you!!

    Fingers crossed for all of us!

  7. #61

    Apr 2009
    Melbourne
    1,069

    Vira,

    I'm sorry that you went through that, I think you have a right to rant and complain. My DH was at the Eye & Ear hospital this morning for an examination and the doctor examining him brought in another doctor and they had a full discussion in front of us as if we weren't even in the room. Then one of them said "That's all done, you can go now." Way to go on the communication and bedside manner!

    I hope some good comes of your experience and wishing you all the best for the next cycle,
    Seph

  8. #62
    Registered User

    Oct 2008
    200

    Oh Vira, I am so sorry that you had to go through with that. I really ,really feel for you and can't imagine the anger and frustration you must be feeling. It is so hard to gear yourself up for a cycle and to have to deal with such a disappointment due to someone else's incompetance is unimaginable. Like you said, unforseen circumstances can arise, but this is their error and to not even show the slightest sign of empathy ......%@$#

    Having said that, the discovery may get you one step closer to your dream. You WILL get there.

    Thinking of you and sending tonnes of cyber

  9. #63
    Registered User

    May 2009
    110

    [QUOTE=jasminstar;1892947]Wishes, thanks for your response. How frustrating for you! I have to say I'd be much happier they have found the problem now than have my procedure cancelled with only 2 days to EPU. I hope that the syneral will kick in and I won't have to try a different drug. Is that what happened to you when it didn't work the first time or did they just increase the dose like they have with me? Sending wishes back for your next try (you know what they say about the third time being a charm

    Hi Jasminstar - after my cancelled cycle involving synarel, my FS suggested I do a completely different protocol, so I did an antagonist cycle which didn't involve synarel at all. It's a much quicker cycle where they just wait for AF to arrive naturally, then start FSH injections on day 3. I only did injections for about 8 days and had EPU on CD12. As far as I'm concerned, I don't ever want to do synarel again, because I would just be too worried that the same thing will happen. And now that I've done a different protocol that worked better (at least in terms of getting to EPU and ET), then I don't want to go back to synarel.

    Hope everything works out for you.

    Wishes xoxo
    Last edited by wishes; July 19th, 2009 at 08:52 PM.

  10. #64
    Registered User

    May 2009
    110

    Sorry for my last post. Haven't figured out how to do that "quote" thing that everyone else seems to know how to do. So ended up doing a very primitive attempt.

    Wishes xoxo

  11. #65
    Registered User

    Jul 2009
    London
    19

    Hi lovely ladies,
    Jasmin star, Seph, Taurean78,Daisee and Tantee-Thanks a lot for all your kind words and thoughts and honestly they mean a lot to me and made me fell looked after.
    I am waiting for my FS to call me and say what the next move is going to be.I had imagined myslef to be a lot stronger than I am and this incident made me realise I am not, I had to struggle a lot the other day not to break down into tears in the tube train on my way home.
    I am lot calmer now and and really admire the spirit of all you long term ttc ladies here and wish you all the best.
    Taureen78-I agree with you 100% on how therapeutic it is to write down all your grievances and how much better you feel afterwards.

    for all of us.

  12. #66
    Registered User

    Dec 2008
    Leongatha - South Gippsland, Victoria
    1,140

    Vira - "Here here" as to what everyone else has said, and you have every right to rant, dont worry about that. I really feel for you having to go through that . That was disgusting of them, i think.
    I hope you can combat the issue ASAP and all the best darlz.
    I agree about writing a letter, my step-mum is a counsellor ( a very good one) and gets people to do that all the time - it helped me too with some issues.

    Hi to everyone else and hope you are all getting that step closer to a BFP!
    Thanks for your wishes and lovely support xo

  13. #67
    Registered User

    Jan 2007
    Central Coast NSW
    135

    Hi ladies - well, much to my dismay, i'm back in this thread, after having a recent miscarriage. It was so exciting to hear that we finally had a BFP, we were on a high for a few days, then you realise its still such a long road ahead. We were just wanting to hear the little h/beat at our 6 week scan, but it wasn't to be.
    May not be around too often, but will pop in from time to time to see how everyone else is doing. Our next IVF clinic will be in October, so will be going through another egg collection cycle then, and hopefully end up with more to freeze than last time.
    Not alot else to say, i'm feeling a bit *crap*, but wishing everyone the best.


  14. #68
    Registered User

    Jun 2009
    Orange
    84

    theresep - I'm so sorry to hear of your miscarriage Although I have never had a BFP, I understand what you mean when you say that after your initial high, you realise just how far there is to go.

    Know that you have our full support. Drop into the thread whenever you feel up to it. You will be in our thoughts whether you're posting or not.

    Take care of yourself.

  15. #69
    Registered User

    May 2009
    110

    Theresep - I am so sorry to hear about your miscarriage. I can't even imagine how you are feeling right now. My heart and thoughts go out to you at this very difficult time.

    AFM - I really need some moral support. I got an email this morning from a very good friend of mine informing me that she is 12 weeks pregnant and due at the end of January. As soon as I read the email, I almost burst into tears. I had to leave the office and go for a walk otherwise I would have been crying at work and I didn't want that (no-one at work knows we're TTC). I have no idea how I am supposed to be happy for my friend, when all I can think of is the fact that I'm not pregnant yet, and we've been trying for nearly a year and a half. My friend had been off the pill for a month (maybe two months), and she fell pregnant straight away. She also doesn't know that we're TTC. I feel like no-one understands what I'm going through except you girls. I think that almost EVERYONE I know who has kids or who is pregnant, fell pregnant either accidentally or straight away when they started TTC.

    WHAT IS WRONG WITH ME!!!! Why can't I get pregnant.

    So sorry for the ranting and raving, but I just feel like I can't talk to anyone about this. I sent my husband the email from my friend (we work in the same office), and he came looking for me because he knew I'd be upset about it. He's such a sweetie.

    Thanks for letting me get that off my chest. I was hoping to get some support from you girls, because my other friends just wouldn't understand.

    Wishes xoxo
    Last edited by wishes; July 21st, 2009 at 05:09 PM.

  16. #70
    Registered User

    May 2009
    Brisbane
    3,105

    Hi ladies. Sorry, I'm a bit out of the loop... There's always so much going on and I find it hard to follow.

    Just a quick question: I know it's normal to O late after an IVF cycle, but is it normal to have a shortened LP. I'm only 11dpo but I feel like AF is knocking on the door. I think it's probably just the IVF last cycle messing me up (normally have a 14 day LP), but wanted to see what others think?

    TIA.

    Jen

  17. #71
    BellyBelly Member

    May 2009
    Sydney NSW
    329

    Hi girls!
    Firstly,

    Theresep - My thoughts are with you hon!

    wishes - just for the record i feel like that everyday....and then i get on BB and realise there are so many FABULOUS POTENTIAL MOTHERS going through it too. Reality, i wish it was easy for all of us....but since its not i am grateful that these wonderful women on here get me through. Thankyou Ladies!!!!!!

    MItf and Loops12 - WHERE ARE YOU??? Hope you are both well.

    AFM - I had EPU on Monday (yesterday) and 8 eggs were collected. FS called today to tell me only 4 fertilised. ET is on Saturday if they make it till then....trying to keep optimistic but just starting to get really emotionally tired of hoping.

    To any one I've missed SORRY and i hope things are going well for you all too.
    _________________________
    Me 40
    right tube removed
    DH 42
    Good count low motility
    TTC #1 for 3 years

    1x natural ectopic 2007
    IUI #1 18 April 2009
    IUI #2 19 May 2009
    IVF #1 7 July 2009

  18. #72
    Registered User

    Jun 2009
    Orange
    84

    wishes - there is nothing wrong with you. What you are feeling are the normal feelings most of us get when we hear the news of the pregnancy of someone close to us when we haven't experienced the same success.
    I remember once a colleague of mine (who has been TTC + 18 months and is about to embark on IVF) said upon the birth of her sister's 1st baby that the moment her envy turned to jealousy or spite, that is when she would make contact with a counsellor. IMO it is normal to feel a bit green and to wonder, "Why not me?".

    Yesterday I had lunch with 2 friends and their babies. Conversation turned to the topic of our 4 pregnant friends and then my friend said," Oh.. and Jane is pregnant again". Well it was my turn to think, "Hey? No fair!". This is her second pregnancy and her husband chronically abuses marijuana. How is it that a) they can fall pregnant b) have healthy children......

    Your husband sounds like a sweetheart and I am glad you have his support so close to hand.

    Emerald Star - Hope you aren't in any discomfort after EPU. The way I look at it is - you got eggs out! That's a result - and four have fertilised - another result! Maybe not as good as you had hoped for but it is a result nonetheless. for at least 1 good, strong and resilient emby for you.

    Hi to everyone else out there - hope you're all well.

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