Long Term TTC & Assisted Conception - June 2007 #5

[sparkles-ttc]

http://www.tearsandhope.com/

check this out if it works, its beautiful

[Ellie]

sparkles - I hadn't seen the new version...thanks! I emailed the link to the original version to all our family and friends earlier this year...the responses were really interesting...some didn't even acknowledge it, others finally got a glimpse of the last 8 years of our lives...pretty powerful video...I love the sound track too.

[Chez67]

Hi everyone

I went for pre-EPU scan and my follie was now 21mm, which is very good size apparently. So, off to the day procedure room for the EPU. All went well - we got one good egg from the follicle. Saw my FS afterwards - she is pretty confident that she will see me back for a transfer on Monday. So, fingers and toes are all crossed that we get good news tomorrow afternoon!

Take care everyone and chat soon.
Cheryl xx

[briggsy's girl]

chez. that's great news hun.i'll keep everything crossed for you this weekend!

[Hollybolly]

Hi Everyone!!!

Wow... I have been MIA for a day or two and have sooo much to catch up on!!!

Chez - Yay on your egg!!! so great that your FS is feeling positive too...My DH is forever saying to me "It only takes one..." Good Luck sweetie, my very very best wishes are with you xxx

Jo - Congrats on the acupuncture!!! Got your email too - everything is sounding great!! How did your session go today??? Can't wait to hear about it. Can't believe this cycle is almost done for you!!!
My fingers are crossed that you have a better result this time round... everything is already sounding so much better.
Has your acupuncturist suggested a treatment after transfer???

Hippy Mum - All sounding good, whilse there is no AF its always sounding promising!!! Best of luck to you for this cycle xxx

Ellie - Congrats on your job - How fantastic about your new boss & the circumstances... your stress level has just gone down by about 300% !!!!!
Everything is falling into place for you now... babies are just around the corner, I can feel it!!!

Rols - Hope things are great with you and DW.. Can't remember exactly when you're starting????

Tracey Lee - Welcome!! The support in here is truly amazing... a very special group of people belong to this thread.
Welcome, and here's hoping you don't have to stick around for too long before you can move onto another thread about pregnancy xxx

Bec - Congrats on your weight loss, its a hard job!!!
The amount you've lost already is amazing!!!

Blayz - I experienced the same as you in regards to the weight during a cycle... Your body is just dealing with everything extra thats being injected into it!!!
On my first 3 cycles, I put on approx 3kgs each one - and had a really hard time trying to take it back off again.
On my 4th cycle, I didn't put on any weight - It was the first cycle that I had been taking the chinese herbs and having acupuncture, and I was also very specific in making sure I drank 2-3Lt water a day... and I felt much better for it.
You will find a lot of it is fluid... if you get a BFP you won't care, abut if its a BFN (Heres hoping not) it will all come away with AF.

To everyone else - Like I said, I've been a little mia the last few days... Luke has been sick, but he's all fixed now, and gone to his Dads until next Friday... so get used to me - A week on my own, you will all be sick to death of my posts by the end of the week!!!!

Hope everyone is great, will prob pop back in later tonight

Love Holly
xxx

[Lenny]

Welcome Traceylee - sounds like you are an old hand at all this, but it is nice to be amongst people who really understand. I hope the headaches ease a little - apparently that's a sign it's really working, but it we could do without that side effect! Good luck with this cycle.

Chez - That's all sounding great - Now another day of twiddling your thumbs and then Monday it's all go. Very excited for you.

Thanks Holly, yeh, things are going well, but i'm in fear of jinxing myself - how dumb is that.
I really just want to shout from the rooftops - it's a bit selfish, but i feel like i deserve for things to go my way a bit - and they are.

My session today was fine - Arielle said he was a man of few words and she was not exaggerating! He was lovely though. He said he will make my migraines better, and because we are already in the middle of an IVF process, he will just assist my general wellbeing. I'm pleased that i am finally giving it a go - it can't do any harm. I told my Dad though, and he was weird about it. Why do i still insist on telling them things - and why do i care what they think!! That's why they don't know about our TTC troubles!
I am going back on Friday - so that answers your other question

to everyone else and to those who are lurking but being quiet !

[slyder]

Evening Groovers,

Welcome Tracey. This site is just bloody great. It has been really helpful to me (and DW) since I joined recently. Makes me, at least, not feel so alone in this LTTTC and AC journey.

BecD. Top job on the weight loss. Keep at it.

Chez, excellent news for you and it sounds like you have good reason to optimistic. All that worry and look how things are turning out!

Holly, it's good your young bloke is back in action. As for us, yeah we're fine. We start IVF in mid August. DW finally got AF (day 32 or 33 or something) so she has to start the pill on CD3.

HippyMum, so jealous of you living in Cornwall, and also surprised as every ex-pat Australian seems to have an obsession with London which is totally beyond me. I have Cornish ancestors from the Redruth region and would love to live anywhere in Cornwall that is coastal, like Fowey. The thing I worry about moving somewhere like Cornwall, or anywhere rural I guess, is finding work.

BG, hope you make it to BT stage! Have been reading your journal.

Kotare, your comment about jinxing yourself sounds like something I'd say. I hate getting ahead of myself in case I tempt fate. Seems to be my only superstition for want of a better term, As for your folks, I can appreciate your situation well. The only reason my olds know about us is because I had to make sure their infertility issues with conceiving me had no genetic/hereditary link. My Dad's fine, but my Mother ****s me to tears.

Hi to everyone else I haven't mentioned. Keep the updates coming.

[Gigi1]

Hey guys,
i can not believe my eyes, No AF and it is day 29, 16DPO. Although i have felt like it is coming. You know that feelign of pressure and slight cramping. Pink mucus and nothing else.
Rols, Kotare, Holly
We only just told my parents about 12 months ago and then they only knew more about it all 4 months ago when we were home for a heap of tests etc. I needed to find out too about mum's history etc but she still has not told me much. She feels bad because dad only had to wink at her and she was preg, for all 3 of us. But she was also 10 years younger. We tried over the years of doing things in secret, then pretending not to want to have kids, then having 'fun' with it all then, timed to the last minute, then tell everyone, then speak to no one and at the end of the day after 8 years of different commitments, we just don't give a ***t. People can say what they like, mind you it does help that we are in another country. But sometimes that can be hard too as when you need the support they are so far away. Parents can be funny. About 8 years ago, you would never catch my folks dead doing anything too alternative, now, they are all for it with in reason. So eventually they come around.
As far as tempting fate, i do it every month, so you are not alone. I think if i test early enough i will beat AF from arriving and i can start the journey as early as possible!! Hee hee we do the strangest things. Right now i catch myself smiling thinking, i might be pregnant and then stop myself because i don't want to be hurt again. We protect ourselves in anyway we can.

Rols,
We are in London now and about to move to Essex. An Eastender!!! I will have to get the hoop earrings out and wear my hair in a side ponytail!! Finding work can be a challenge depending what you do. I am a chef, and my husband a restaurant manager so we are fairly lucky. But there are plenty of big towns in rural area. Cornwall is very seasonal though.

Cheryl
Good luck for Monday and hope all can go ahead. Fingers crossed.

Sparkles,
The weather south of paris is apparently fine, half there luck. Friends that are in Greece say that the beaches are deserted until 8 at night at the moment because it is so hot. Aussies could handle it i am sure!! When do you come over to Europe? and where are you going?

Everyone else, hope you had agreat and relaxing weekend.
Hubby and i just wnet to see Shrek 3, brilliant and although there is a big emphasis on babies and becoming parents, it was well and truely a good laugh!
Take care all
Hippy Mum

[Lenny]

mind you it does help that we are in another country. But sometimes that can be hard too as when you need the support they are so far away.

Me too, and sometimes i think if they just lived around the corner it would be easier to explain the whole thing to them, but over the phone and emails just never really come across right. For now it's easier to say nothing.
Just a funny parent story...mine keep saying they'd better come here for Xmas, and they are making a big deal of it, and saying odd things (like not to stress cos that they will stay in a hotel). DH and i have figured that they think i am pg, and they don't want to miss baby's 1st Xmas. Funny! They haven't booked tickets or anything yet, and i guess they are waiting for the 'announcement'. Well, i guess eventually they'll work the dates out and give up. Maybe Xmas 2008!!
They just Skyped me while i was typing this - their ears must be burning

[sparkles-ttc]

hey Hippy mum
i am going to ondon, Liverpool, Wales., French riveria and most of Italy Fly out of Rome so north Italy, i cant wait yeah i am sure we can handle the heat!!

Ellie- was their an old version??
I sent it to friends and family too, i got some amazing emails back from friends and some in tears
xo

[Chez67]

Hi everyone

Just got the phone call from MIVF - my egg fertilised abnormally - apparently there was an issue with the sperm but the scientist couldn't give me any more details than that. So no transfer on Monday ... I feel absolutely devastated - I have tried so hard at making this cycle work but it seems that it has all come to nothing. I won't know any more until I see the FS this week. And DF goes away again tomorrow morning, so it is just me and my furbabies to keep me company for my week off. Does anyone have any suggestions about what DF can do to improve his SA? That's about all I can come up with at the moment - hard to see the keyboard with tears in my eyes!!
Take care all,
Cheryl xx

[Loula]

hi all just checking in on you all

Rols - firstly why wouldnt all aussies have an obsession with London - it great and my home town so watch it buddy!!hehehe. i do agree with the fact that most Australians that go to London sometimes waist there time there not getting around Europe as much as they could i mean i know people that spend a whole year in london with the odd weekend to france/ spain - what a wast and it wasnt because they were working it was cause they were too ****ed at the slug and lettice !!

HM - GL with treatment in the UK i would be very interested in how it all works over there. I believe your first cycle is 100%covered but NHS but then you have to pay for any more if required?? What are the cost like if you dont mind me asking ?

Jo - Great news with the alternative treatment i hope you are pleasently surprised with its effects and that your headach is gone .xxAlso where are your parents?

Holly sorry i dont post to see how Luke has been but glad to hear that he is on the mend and i guessing your in the TWW with Antonia, i havent been to see her since with last spoke

Sparkles have a fab trip, and do try to check in if you can we will all miss your posts

Cheryl - Just read your post hun and im so sorry this journey has many bumps in the road. i dont know what to say other than take some time then get pen to paper and write a few things down to attack your FS with when you see him next.thinking of you xx

TL - welcome i hope we will be able to share our stories and journey with you and be as surportive as we can to you and your DP.GL hun

BG - where are you??? i hope youve gotten that BFP on your pee stick and that the 4th is just confirmation for you xx

Blaz - im with you on the weight gain although during this cycle im not hungry at all, feel like im gonna chuck at anytime

Bec - whats your secret on the weight loss? Hope your going good at the mo

allie - where are yooooou?

[Ellie]

Oh Cheryl...I am so sorry. The devastation of the end of a cycle is such a heart breaking, overwhelming feeling...I was so hoping if was something you would never have to experience. You have experienced a loss...the loss of the hope of conceiving your precious baby...it is real and it hurts...be kind to yourself...cry, scream and do what ever you feel you need to do to get through today..worry about tomorrow when it gets here. I'm thankful you can see your FS this week, any longer a wait would have been hard. Take care sweetie...we're all here for you...sorry I can't help with suggestions for DF but I'm sure someone here will know where to go or what questions to ask...here's praying for answers xxx

[Lenny]

Chez - i'm really sorry sweetie, we had everything crossed for you. Not to minimize your pain and sadness, but i had a shocker of a first cycle too. Real shocker. And it really really sux. You just don't expect it, and then it feels like a fall from a great height! It does get better, and soon you'll be back where i am again. I have heard from lots of ladies who had a cr@ppy first cycle and have gone on to 's later. You are in fine company! It doesn't make it any easier - but let yourself be sad, and a bit mad ... and don't be too hard on yourself.
I posted a thread asking for tips to make DH's better. Flowerchild (Deb) and Baby Amore and a few other ladies gave me a few great ideas so i'll try to find that for you. Here it is...

Lou - many a good night spent at the Slug and Lettuce...hehehe. BTW, my parents are in NZ. Bro and sis in Sydney. Just me in Melbourne, but i don't mind most of the time.

Ellie - when is your phone consult? It's a bummer that he is going to charge you now.

Me...trigger at 7pm tonight, EPU on Tuesday at 7.20.

[butterfly_warrior]

Chez, I'm so sorry to hear your news. :hugs: I hope the FS has answers for you.

Jo, good luck with the trigger - EPU on Monday or Tuesday?

BW

[briggsy's girl]

Chez - just wanted to drop in and say how truly sorry i am for you right now - i know how heartbreaking it can be to put your all into this and then not get to the TWW - it is something i have been hoping all week that you would never have to experience. as the other ladies have so beautifully said, give yourself time to grieve. you will go through each stage of grief because something you have hoped so much for has been taken from you without a reason. i hope you get some decent answers from your FS this week - take a list of all the questions that have run through your mind - not just today, but anything you can remember wondering about this past week - no matter how trivial it may seem - you're better to ask too many questions and get solid answers, then to walk out of your appointment with a big question mark hanging over your head.

take care sweetie

will drop backin later to see what's happening - time to brush the tears from my eyes at Cheryl's bad news and get back to painting (OMG - give me a paint brush anyday, but PLEASE don't ask me to wash anymore walls or do anymore masking tape edges!!! i'm over it - and we've only really worked on three rooms - we have a whole house to finsh yet! who's bright idea was that?)

[slyder]

Chez, it sucks, it really does, but just try and bear in mind what many of the girls have said, and particularly what Kotare said about first cycles. Sometimes it works first go for people, and for others the first cycle goes belly up. You shouldn't lose any hope that you will get your BFP. There's certainly no reason why on the next cycle you wont get more than one egg and therefore more chance of getting things right.

And of course in these circumstances everything becomes about the cycle, so when things don't work out it is a very big fall to endure. You'll see the light at the end of the tunnel in due course.

Loula - nothing against London (apart from the fact it's a huge city) - I'm just having a bit of a dig at people who think England is comprised of London and a weekend trip to the beach at Brighton. There's so much else to see and experience. I find it funny how the Australian media often talk about places like Manchester or Liverpool in terms of how many kilometres (or miles) they are from London. It's like the movie Team America where the rest of the world is X km from America.

[nic]

Hi girls and Rols
Chez, So sorry to hear your news...hugest hugs for you..will be thinking of you.

I am yet to catch up on all the news since I've been away, but will try my hardest tomorrow.
Well, for those that haven't read my journal, I have endometriosis, and a twisted tube, though at our follow up appointment he used the word "distorted", endo was not removed, FS thought he would damage my uterus and ovaries as I have "Sheets" of it and not chocolate cysts.
I started sniffing Synarel this week, and we go back to the FS in 12 weeks to start scnas,injections etc and then we make the 1000klm trip to the clinic he has referred us onto as he can only do IUI at his office and not IVF. He told us we would have about 3% chance with IUI and about 50% with IVF. I'm so confused with all the paperwork (and prices which do or don't apply to us)

Anwyay, enough of me for now. Will aim to catch up tomorrow sometime

Nic