thread: Long Term TTC & Assisted Conception - May/June 2009

  1. #271
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    Oct 2008
    200

    Kay Kay, that is great news, glad to hear that all went so smoothly for you today. Fingers crossed for you and wishing you a quick TWW.

    Thank you everyone for your warm welcome.

    AFM: I am really stressed right now. Had a 2nd scan & BT today. I have 21 Follies and my Estrogen has soared from 4000 on Thurs to 15000 today. The FS said I am borderline on cancellation, but will go ahead with EPU on Thurs. Trigger is tonight. I doubt there will be a ET this month, but at the moment I am considering pulling the plug this afternoon as he asked me what the chances are that I could take a week off work in case I need to go to hospital for a week. I don't know what to do!!! I know my body is sensitive to my hormone levels in general and am very scared as to what will happen. Sorry for the me post but I feel I am at an important crossroad/dilemma and am wondering if anyone else here has been at this point with similar levels.

  2. #272

    Apr 2009
    Melbourne
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    Tantee,

    I had over 20 follies and FS said he was thinking of cancelling because I was at risk of OHSS. He brought EPU forward and we triggered that night, and they were able to get 18 eggs at EPU. I then had a mild OHSS, and took a couple of days off work to rest. It was nothing too big, but I was pretty exhausted. Make sure you keep up your fluids. Also, I did have a fresh ET, but looking back I think I could/should have waited, to give my body a break.

    Don't feel too despondent - EPU may go really smoothly, but make sure you give yourself time to recover. FX for you that it'll be fine - and rest up!

    GL on Thursday. It'll be over before you know it.

  3. #273
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    Oct 2008
    200

    Thank you so much for your reply Persephone1.

    I am waiting for the nurse to call and am leaning more toward cancelling.

    Did you have any signs before EPU, eg nausea, bloating, stomach cramps? Do you remember what your Estrogen levels were?

    Sorry to pick your brains... but your experience sounds very similar.

  4. #274
    Registered User

    Nov 2008
    Perth, WA
    215

    Hi Tantee. We had a similar situation but went ahead with EPU - we got 24 eggs and had to cancel the fresh transfer and go with a frozen. We ended up with 5 in the freezer and then got a month off.....I was actually really thankful for the break....it's been lovely and DH probably agrees. NO tanties or anything!!

    AFM: AF has arrived today!!!!! on day 23!! i can't believe it's here so early.....my poor hormones don't know what they are doing! I normally have a 33 day cycle so my frozen transfer should be in about 3 weeks. DH and I are getting pretty excited now. Hope our 5 frozen blasties are feeling ok!! BT tomorrow will confirm that AF has arrived
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  5. #275

    Apr 2009
    Melbourne
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    Tantee,

    They never checked my bloods at that time, it was all based on the scan, and on what I told FS. He said that there are three versions of how someone might feel around EPU time:
    1. That they have heaps of follies and are at risk of OHSS, but feel fine and don't report any negative symptoms;
    2. That they have heaps of follies, are at risk of OHSS, and feel terrible; and
    3. They don't have heaps of follies and may feel terrible, or fine.

    FS told me that it's Number 2 that causes him concern, and that he wanted to bring my EPU forward because I reported that I was pretty uncomfortable and exhausted. If he had found lots of follies but I hadn't reported any bad symptoms, he wouldn't have been concerned. I remember that even the vaginal scan he did that day was uncomfortable.

    From memory, I felt like I had lead balloons in my belly, had trouble rolling over and couldn't lie on my tummy, was pretty bloated, and it sometimes hurt to sit down - the nurse told me that this was because I had fluid in my 'pouch' (can't remember the medical term for it, but it's the dip between your uterus and your bowel). I watched the entire Sex and the City series (all of them, back-to-back, plus the movie) because doing too much physical activity really exhausted me. And I had some nausea on and off, but also had a varying appetite. I was pretty emotional, but this was partly because I was really tired. This is all before EPU.

    After EPU, the bloating was still there about 24 hours later, but nothing too bad. They put me on a drip because of the number of follies collected - the woman next to me jumped out of bed 20 minutes after her EPU! My main problem afterwards was constipation because of all the hormones, which took a week to clear up. I also felt a bit breathless, especially if I was too active. I rested up, drank lots of water, and felt fine three days later - still a bit tired, but much better.

    I was also unlucky that my EPU happened in the same week that Melbourne hit 40 degrees, every day. This meant I really was relegated to the couch, because doing anything physical was impossible in the heat.

    I hope that whatever decision you make, it's the right one for you. How are you feeling now? Certainly an EPU should make you feel a bit better, but then I've only been through one. My thoughts are with you, make sure you're kind to yourself.

    Seph

  6. #276
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    Oct 2008
    200

    The Doctor phoned me to discuss it further and I was slightly relieved by what we discussed. He said that although the risk is there, there is no way that they would go ahead with EPU if there was a significant risk. He spoke with both myself and my husband and discussed risks. Although he recommended a fresh transfer, he said we will wait and see on transfer day as to how I'm feeling (although I am leaning toward freezing all embies - if they eventuate - and giving my body a break and let the estrogen levels settle a bit) decisions, decisions.

    Thanks again Seph, your post has really helped me with my thought process (ie trying to think logically!) Wow, how long did it take to watch the entire SATC series? I often watch it on Fox, (when little ears aren't around as it can be pretty full on ) but love it's brutal honesty in regard to girlie stuff.

    BTB - Hopefully AF is early in keen anticipation for your transfer. I'm glad that you have had a chance to relax a bit and just go with the flow for a while. 5 is a good number to have on your side!!

    I can't tell you ladies how much your stories have inspired me to keep at it. Thank you!

    Well trigger is at 10:30pm - here's hoping my body doesn't go too crazy

  7. #277
    Registered User

    Jul 2009
    Sydney
    50

    Hi Kay Kay,

    Well you seem to be further along the cycle than any of us in the thread here and surely all the good vibes flowing your way from us all have got to give carma a good leg up. It's very surprising what people say without thinking - my closest friend responded the exact same way. She said she didn't want me getting hurt by getting my hopes up - I know she meant well but I really felt like thunping her (shouldn't have such negative thoughts scratch that). Anyway very best of luck and let us know how you go.

  8. #278
    mellmell Guest

    Unhappy Feelin Bummed

    Hiya All,

    Have not been in for a while, just lurking, congrats to the BFPs!
    Well I'm having a little pitty party today. I start with the synarel again in 7 days. I rang the FS to check if i could delay IVF # 2 cause DP is home from OS work at the end of Aug and thought we could use fresh TESA sperm rather than the frozen vial we have left due because of the c****y quality of the last defrosted vial (scientist said it was why we had such a poor outcome). Unfortunatley they could not do it over the time he was home. So i asked if he could have another TESA while he was home for freezing, but they said they would not do it because it was "pointless" (not gettin very positive vibes about this cycle). This leaves us with two options because he is only home twice a year (next IVF chance would be Dec and FS closes over that time). 1. Donor sperm, which DP won't have a bar of 2. Reversal with only a 40% chance of success at $7000, and DPs impossible work schedual to fit it around. Otherwise it is only one go per year at a IVF cycle when DP is home. So basically if i get a BFN with no frosties again (which, given the advice of the FS and scientist is likely) i'm pretty much out of the baby race.
    Sorry for ranting, i just needed to vent.

    Mell....

  9. #279
    Registered User

    Nov 2008
    Perth, WA
    215

    What the heck is going on......day 23 AF started......then finished the next day (normally a 33 day cycle). It was early anyway so I'm not sure what's going on. Went in for a blood test this morning to see if it's actually AF. I'm on a month off since EPU so no hormones...............strange!!!!

  10. #280
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    Dec 2007
    Queensland
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    Hey Hey Ladies I'm back will come back on later for personals... AF has shown her ugly face so I'm out again I don't get it but hey there's always next month.... I have to call FS tomorrow and find out where we are going from here soo shall be interesting!

    xxoo

  11. #281
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    Nov 2008
    Perth, WA
    215

    sorry to hear the news Miss K. Stay positive!

    AFM: BT showed hormones were baseline so I've started gonal-f this morning - 75iui........frozen transfer here I come!!!! on an unattractive note.....AF is soooooooo light! Wouldn't even know i had it!!

  12. #282

    Apr 2009
    Melbourne
    1,069

    Hi,

    I got my LH surge this morning - I love seeing those two little lines on the test, the only time that two show up! So FET#5 will be on Sunday.

    Tantee...hoping your EPU went okay and you're recovering well. Thinking of you and your dozens of follies!

    MissK, sorry to hear that AF has arrived. Sending you a big

    Mellmell, you're a tough lady doing all this without DH around! I admire you for doing that, and being so strong. I hope you have some positive news ahead of you.

    B2B - good luck with the injections. Your stim cycle sounds different to mine - how long until your FET? GL!

    to everyone else that I missed. Have a good Thursday.

    Seph

  13. #283
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    Nov 2008
    Perth, WA
    215

    Seph this is my first FET cycle. I'm on gonal-f, then my trigger will be at ovulation with FET five days later - nurses said this will be in about 3 weeks. Any tips for me?? DH and I are really excited but know that we'd be VERY lucky for it to stick 1st time.

  14. #284
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    Nov 2008
    Perth
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    Question...

    does anyone know when you are supposed to count from if you get a BFB when your on IVF...

    Normal conception you usally count from 1st day of your last period (correct?)

    with ivf.. do you start from the egg transfer day? or the day you get a BFP BT?

    just a question.. I have often wondered???

  15. #285
    Registered User

    Nov 2008
    Perth, WA
    215

    it's exactly the same as a normal pregnancy..........i'm 90% sure anyway!

  16. #286
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    Jun 2009
    N.S.W
    26

    Well i had my ET on Tuesday the 30th June, and BT is on Satrday the 11th of July and if that is a BFP they count that as being 4 weeks preg... If i were to take it from LMP it would be 32 days. don't really know if this helps at all

  17. #287
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    Oct 2008
    200

    Hi everyone...

    Krikkit - there is a due date calculator on website IVF.ca Fertility Network - it counts it as you being 2 weeks pregnant on day of EPU

    BTB - it's great that you now have a fresh plan of attack! GL with your stims. I hope that the 3 weeks passes quickly for you.

    Miss K - sorry to hear about AF arriving - she should just get the hint that she is just not welcome!

    Mellmell - you are amazing, it is hard enough when hubby is handy, let alone having to factor in unpredictable timetables. Feel free to vent as much as you like

    AFM - had EPU today and it was not as bad as I had expected. The waiting around for 3 & 1/2 hrs was more nerve wracking. The nurses were fantastic. Feeling a bit sore and bloated and am holding off on the panadol until I feel I really need it. A hot wheat pack is doing the trick for now. Ended up with 12 eggs, so fingers crossed hoping that some survive the night. Had a giggle with DH in regard to what time the 'blind date' between eggs & swimmers will be - (or maybe its a bit more like speed dating?)

  18. #288
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    Jul 2009
    Sydney
    50

    Hi ladies,

    Springvallee, good luck on Saturday, you must be so excited!!!

    Mell, sorry to hear you're down in the dumps. Miracles happen every day so try to stay positive. It must be hard without hubbie there I think you're really strong to keep it up. Wish you best of luck whatever happens.

    Miss K, how did you get on with FS today?

    Persephone1, hope Sunday goes well for you.

    tantee, sending you lots of

    Question: I've been reading all your different accounts of IVF treatment cycles and trying to figure out what's normal. I think the nurse at my clinic has put me on a cycle that's very long on syneral just to suit the doctors operating days. Does anyone know what's the normal wait between Syneral, AF and Puregon. I started syneral om 30th June, AF arrived on 7th/8th July (middle of night). I'm not due to go back til the 16th July to see if I start the puregon - the nurse said that this was to make sure that my hormones were definitely all suppressed but it seems really long compared to what I've read elsewhere.

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