Long Term TTC & Assisted Conception - Sept/Oct 2007

**tiggerlinda** · October 2nd, 2007, 11:39 AM

BW glad to see things are underway

**Ellie** · October 2nd, 2007, 12:06 PM

Best wishes BW xxx

**Peta** · October 2nd, 2007, 01:33 PM

Welcome NellieW & Tiggerlinda. It seems that you are pretty close to me with your IVF cycles. We begin #2 on 4th (Puregon injections). Nellie, how are you finding the injections? The first time I did them it took me about an hour to get up the courage to do it. Its funny, once the needle was in, I didn't even realise as it didn't hurt at all! I have my first scan on 9th, so hopefully I will have a good reaction to injections. EPU is planned for 16th, but I am not letting my thoughts get away from me.
BW glad to hear that things are on the move for you. All the best!
Hi to everyone else.
Take care & have a great week!

**Mon** · October 2nd, 2007, 01:34 PM

Hi all,

thought i'd pop in to see how you all going. Arielle, glad you have little embie on board.
Shannon, so sorry to hear about BFN! I feel for you ... hugs!
To every1 else 'big hi' .. sorry for lack of personals, still have rotten cold. went to clinic on Fri for final BT, was hoping to find out if embie at least implanted. Anyway no luck with getting blood, after 3 goes and heat pack ... ended up with 1 big fat whopping bruise due to vein bursting. Was told to do HPT as a backup but still havent. Even though they agree on BFN, more precaution for it not being an ectopic preg. Anyway got some answers, which was good. Found out that on day 9 my bloods were over 9000 and they were worried about OHSS. In reality cause of size of follicles I would have been better off going in later. Therefore most of my eggs were immature. Only the one was A grade and the rest (13) were B grade and they dont freeze B grade embies. They said for next cycle they can at least adjust dosage of drugs to get a better result. I now need to make an appt with FS as he is o/s at a fertility convention and we can then decide when we will next try again. DH wants me to wait till early next year, but i think I will probably be OK with a 2 mth break. We'll see. SO I'll still be around, but, maybe not as much as before!
Good luck to every1 I will be following your progress.
Mon

**tiggerlinda** · October 2nd, 2007, 02:20 PM

Hey Mon - The same thing happen to us last round. My DH always wants to wait after a cycle may be he was right I do feel much better for the upcoming cycle.

Peta thanks looks like I will be close behind you with expected start on the 8th on Lucerin & Perngon.

Baby dust for all

**butterfly_warrior** · October 2nd, 2007, 02:24 PM

Thanks for all the well wishes regarding my current cycle. Just heard from the clinic and levels are still really low, so they don't want to see me again until Saturday. Of course, this is sending me into a minor panic about the letrozole not working this time, even though I know they called me in too early. Checking the dates of blood tests for my last FET, and I was called in on the same cycle day first up, and then they let me go for 3 days, not 4... minor difference, but enough to make me worry.

And in the usual way these things work... Saturday morning I was supposed to be going to breakfast with friends to celebrate a birthday, meeting at the exact same time as the clinic wants to see me. With a 40 minute drive back here - I don't think it's going to work! Bugger!

BW

slyder · October 2nd, 2007, 04:02 PM

Hi to everyone, and welcome to Nellie and welcome back to Linda.

DW went off the pill today instead of tomorrow. I suggested she ring the clinic because she reckons AF wants to come now, and not tomorrow. They agreed that stopping the pill today would be fine.

**happymel** · October 2nd, 2007, 06:10 PM

Hi girls and Rols. Sorry for all those not having such great news lately, but also good luck to those about to do their FET's and full stim cycles. BW- its great to see you back under way!! One of the IVF nurses got my artery instead of the vein one day....couldnt move my arm for the next 24 hours, and it bled heaps, so try not worry too much about the bleeding, can be diff each time, and each nurse has different techniques and stuff. Bugger about the brekky!!
Rols- thats great that the FET is coming up soon. One or two??? Well,i know i cant really talk...haha because we put back two, but if i had three frozen (which i think you have), then i think id prob put back one to start and the next time maybe two. Remember to think positive about the thaw rate. You had some great blasts and that goes to your advantage and the survival rate is pretty good. When we had a FET we only had one frozen and it survived. That was stressful!!! Just have good think about it. DH and i are thinking about all the stuff we need to buy!! I dont regret for one minute but we had to beg to have two transferred because of the high success rate for blast t/f. Just think if you have one t/f this time and its a BFN then there is two more in reserve. Its up to you guys, but i hope all goes well. Im not quite sure why they are doing a medicated cycle though, sounds a bit sucky when DW has good cycle and everything. Me- well i am missing home so much. Its a bit like home here (with beaches instead of mud!!) and i think thats why i am missing it more. I think if we are going to be here and its soo much like home, then we may as well be at home.... Thinking about it for the future.... I think my mum being around would be a great help with twins!
Ellie- i hope you got results today and that everything was ok?
Hi to everyone else. Shannon- im sorry those little embies didnt stick

Stay well,

**Ellie** · October 2nd, 2007, 06:44 PM

Have just posted in my 'melanoma thread'...but just wanted to let you know the prelim report is in and all looks ok! Still checking other tissue but looks good!
Thanks to everyone for your support...I'm such a drama queen...but I've been so worried!

**Lenny** · October 2nd, 2007, 07:03 PM

You're not a drama queen at all Ellie. Very pleased to hear that it all looks promising.
Take care

**happymel** · October 2nd, 2007, 08:56 PM

Yay Ellie, so happy that things are ok so far!! Now can concentrate on relaxing and BD'ing!!!! Have fun

slyder · October 2nd, 2007, 09:39 PM

Ellie, first of all you're not a drama queen and I would have been exactly the same. I'm relieved that it's all looking OK for you. That really is good news and the whole little event puts things in perspective I think.

Mel, thanks for your thoughts and advice. The thing is, our clinic are basically saying two on FET is the norm and I can't see the logic to be honest. I could understand it if we had fragmented embies or something, but apparently ours are fine and it seems like such a high chance of twins seeing as DW has checked out all OK. Who knows, the FS may say it's all a load of crap and one is the only way to go at the moment.

**NellieW** · October 3rd, 2007, 10:10 AM

Thank you so much everyone for making me feel welcome.

Well we did injection number 3 yesterday, and I think that we finally got it right. It hurt a lot less than the first two.

We the first couple of times we were being really careful and pushing it in really slowly, which hurt. Last night DH did it quicker, and it was much better. DH was very proud of himself last night, we seem to have got the hang of it now.

I really don't mind needles, so I wasn't too worried about it, but I still get a tiny bet nervous each time right before we are about to stick the needle in

A question for you - I know there is no such thing as a 'normal' cycle and everyone is a bit different. But we are going for our ultrasound and blood test next Monday, which will be day 9. If everything is going well then, they said they would give me the go ahead for the trigger injection. Can anyone tell me when you would do that. Is it that night - day 9, or is it usually the next day, or even later? Any advice? Thanks

**butterfly_warrior** · October 3rd, 2007, 10:16 AM

The trigger needs to be timed really carefully. When the clinic tells you when to trigger, they'll tell you the time it needs to be done, and it all depends on when your EPU is scheduled. My trigger was done at 5:30 Saturday evening, my EPU was scheduled for 7:30 Monday morning. You'll also find that the needles hurt less if the needle goes in quickly, and the drug gets pushed in slowly. I also found that if you took a deep breath, and jabbed on the exhale, you didn't feel it as much. It's all about being relaxed when the needle goes in, if you are tense it will hurt more.

BW

**tiggerlinda** · October 3rd, 2007, 10:23 AM

Nellie I am with BW it does need to be timed quickly and for my first cycle I had 2 scans before being given the trigger injection. Glad 2 needle are down for you. The clininc will watch and mointor the folliles and eggs and then give you the go ahead no such thing as normal you are right but it will be right for you

slyder · October 3rd, 2007, 11:10 AM

Nellie, my DW was very scared of needles but has overcome that having had to get used to the bi-nightly jabs whilst on stim cycle. I administered all of them and would agree that it is better to insert the needle quickly but carefully. I used to head off to the spare room and do all the prep stuff first, then yell out when I was ready. She would come in, having had an ice cube over the target area for about a minute, then pinch a roll of skin and off we'd go.

I would hold the syringe between my thumb and forefinger and insert it in much the same way as you'd throw a dart (but evidently much more gently) then change grip to enable me to depress the plunger; slowly and steadily. In and out was usually an under 5 second process for us. Be sure to insert the needle to beyond 80% of its length, rather than just under the surface. If you pinch up a roll of skin you can't go too deep. I also suggest inserting the needle as close to vertical/straight as possible as any angle seemed to create discomfort.