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Thread: Long Term TTC & Assisted Conception ~ October 2006

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    Hey Keen

    So sorry to hear your news...hoping for an amazing miracle for you...

    Take care



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    Keen - i dont know what to write other than i am thinking of you

    I got off the pc last night after chatting with a georgious friend who has been on chemo for the last goodness knows how long and she is on the mend YAY i am so so so so happy for her she is a very special person to me. Well ive told her about you guys and i hope she comes to say hi as ahe asked her doc what the chances would be with the eggs she has in storage and he said good. im so eggcited !!(pardon the pun) for her. Like i said she is a very special person who i really dont see enough of.

    Well of to work but just had to share that news oh and the TMI that i am now having a FULL AF (I am punching these keys with so much anger at the mo!

    Every one else have a great day

    PS Megan dont leave me I wont start jabbing till Tuesday at the earliest

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    Keen - sorry to hear things arn't going well, I truly hope you receive some goods news soon

    Hope everyone else is doing well - sorry for the lack of personals but i've been very slack in posting latley and it's made it hard for me to keep up - I've had so many things on my plate lately. Nothing happening here just going to keep trying and hoping for a miricle.Our next specialist appointment isn't until Decemeber then we'll start looking at what our other options are.

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    Hi Girls

    Thank you all so much for your support during this really hard time.

    I've been thinking alot about my options now and would like to see what you all think. When i had the lap and dye at 21, everything came back normal. Since then i haven't tried to conceive naturally for obvious reasons.

    Has anyone heard of Tubal Flushing?? If my tubes turn out ok, and since i ovulate, but maybe only one in four of my eggs actually fertilise, maybe IUI with Clomid will give me a better chance so that if there are 2 follicles there maybe one of them will be "a good one".

    Does anyone know of a good gynae in brisbane that i could go to for the procedure (HSG with Lipidiol Flushing)..

    Thinking of you all xxx

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    TwoMums,
    I was really sorry to read about your disastrous cycle. I can't see how anyone can be telling your partner not to have children after only one IVF cycle. I would have thought they would have to do some PGD or full karyotyping (?sp) before they would make such a statement.
    As for doing the ICSI without your consent, our clinic gives us a form with tick boxes to fill out to say what procedures we are having, how many embies to transfer etc. and we sign it so we are virtually writing the treatment plan. Last time, the nurse had written my husband needed a needle biopsy to get the sperm out when he can do it naturally!! Imagine how upset he would have been. I picked it up straight away so I think that system is very good.
    So I would also question their competence about making a diagnosis for you as well. I would be changing doctors. Sorry, don't know any docs in Brisbane.
    good luck.
    Cazzoom,
    I belong to an egg donor site which also deals with some embryo donation issues. you can donate to someone privately or anonymously via a clinic. The state/clinic policies vary so can't really help much there but could give you the site name if you are interested.
    AF arrived for me yesterday so my eggs have reached their use by date. But we are hoping a friend will donate for us so might get another baby yet.

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    Just a quick hello from me ladies. Hope you are all well.

    Seems to be a lot of jabbing going on at the moment..goodluck to you all.

    Keen - So sorry to hear more bad news for you. HUGEST Hugs

    Not a lot happening here with us. We didn't even BD until after ovulation this month! My temping hasn't been happening at all, but will try to keep on top of it next month. No more discussions on when to make a FS appointment, but I'm sure we'll get there eventually.

    Catch up with you all later.

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    Sorry guys I still can't do personals still no computer up & running at home.
    Well had my laproscopy & turns out I had severe endo but it has been taken out which explains why I am so damn sore, I was not prepared for it to be this bad but then I didn't know I would have so much stuff done, both of my ovaries were stuck down with endo.
    You really have no idea what's going on inside your body.
    Anyway hopefully when I recover enough we can start ttc again hopefully with good results.
    Hope everyone else is doing well, have been thinking about everyone.
    Jo

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    Jo - sorry to hear your feeling so sore, hope DH is taking good care of you!

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    Just a quick pop in from me before DH comes hom as ive had my RDO today and am ment to be doing houswork!!!

    Well the reasons why i havent and its not because ive been shopping again, NO, ive had a head ache all day since i woke up the morning. i think chasing a fly round the house with spray sisnt help!!!

    well i phoned my nurse yesterday and the bleeding is all good. they said that they want a thin linning for my scan on Monday.

    I collected my drugd and the GUN as i call it as it might as well be it hurts anyway!

    well then i realsied that iam on the drugs that i had with our first ever stim cycle so i called DH to tell him and all he could say was whach out physo in a very funny voice i guess you had to be there. I dont remember being that bad but maybe i wasnt very relaxed with that cycle. Anyway im now a little worried as i did nt have any success with that cycle and at the time i rember blaming the drugs as i put on so so much weight (but i do have a sweet tooth!) and today for some unknown reason i ate a whole bag of fun size snikers!! yes thats 12 mini snickers!!!(is that bad? I started at breakky with 2 at 8.am?

    Anyway when i changed gyn i told her that the last lot of drugs i was on, the dosage was 225 and i over stimulated but forgot to tell her that that was on Gonal-f. when i was on Puregon the first time i was only on 150 for 4 days then 100 for a futher 5 days but my new doc has got me on 200 of Puregon. Does anyone know if this will case me to over produce so many again.

    When i was on Puregon in 2004 i got 8 or 11 eggies (I cant keep up with all my eggies) but i think only 5 fertlised but when i was on Gonal - f i got 16 and all fertlised but i also had to have a stitch as they got a vessel (very unlucky i was told)

    I know im rammbeling but can someone give my any idea what i am worrying about!!! Im thinking about talking about it with mu Gyn when i see her for the scan on Monday morning.

    Hope every one is doing well and i will bbl

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    HI everyone

    we started jabs yesterday, DH has been chief jabbing officer and doing them for me and he is doing a great job, we decided for us anyway it is just easier to let him to it. So far so good, can't say I feel any symptoms or anything which is good.

    Lou - I haven't felt like eating a whole bag of snickers yet, you poor thing you must have felt ill after that. You sound really stressed about it, have you thought about talking to the nurses about your concerns? I have called them before a couple of time, like when I was spotting on the pill and they were really helpful, sorry I don't know how to help you with your worries but seriously I would give them a call and talk about your concerns. If you are having your scan next week I would tell your specialist too perhaps.

    Keen - sorry to hear things are still not going well

    Jo - I have had my endo removed heaps of times now (9 laps all up) and can sympathise with your pain, it really does hurt, make sure you take it nice and easy for the next few days and get lots of rest.

    Everyone else - big Hi, will be back in over the weekend

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    Hi Everyone
    Twomums just wanted to let you know i have a great Gyno / Fertility Specialist in Brisvegas.. her name is Dr Julie Lindstrom and she is on Wickham Tce (aren't they all!!)she may be able to help you out.. We are seeing her and going through City Fertility Clinic, but she has her own practice as well.. hope this helps.. Cheers

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    Thank you Shannon for the info re your specialist. I don't quite know what to do, whether to change clinics or just specialists. I don't know if my doctor would be happy to refer me to someone else in the clinic i already go to. Guess i will have to ask him to find out. Seen as how both Kim and I have already registered with QFG, it seems a waste of money changing clinics, but on the other hand, we arent that happy with the place overall...but then again, maybe a change of specialists is all we need...hmmm, just paid $150 US to gain access to unlimited profiles from the Sperm Bank in the US that QFG uses. Hmmm thinking.......QFG might refuse treating me after all the complaints i made and the fact that i asked for a refund, and got it!!!!

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    Two mums - I just want to let you know that i changed Gyn and clinic early this year and from doing so had test done that were not even on offer to me at my old clinic. I changed because i felt as though i was plodding along doing nothing and felt like each time i went the doc would say dont worry your young!!(but three years later after trying im still not pg)

    If you aree not happy where you are then i would suggest that you change. Dont worry about what your current Gyn will think someone told me when i changed that people change Gyn and/or clinics all the time.

    I figure that my old Gyn is so busy with other paitents anyway he proberly doesnt even miss me.

    I would have though that they would have liked to know why i left (other than the nurse stuff ups which i am still having to follow up) but ive heard nothing and my new Gyn didnt recieve my notes from them for ages thats if she ever recieved them !

    About wasting money, its not a wast if you have changed to feel happier. I still have a full cycle in credit at my old clinic but that doesnt mean im going back there some times you have to let go in order to move forward.

    Do what makes you feel happier

    I hope that helps

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    Ps you both sound like strong women if they refuse to treat you sue (sp) them!!! i dont know on what bases that they can refuse you

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    Megan - I changed specialists as well, for different reasons to you and Lou, we hadn't started IVF yet, but we found him to be really hard to get appointments with for follow up and could never get a straight answer out of him. My gynea gave me some great advice about dealing with them, he said you really need to pin them down and make sure they explain things properly and tell them what you want, don't just coast along with them. He said his patients change FS all the time, especially if they are not getting the desired result and the main thing is that you are happy. I seriously don't know how we would have gone without having my gynea as a sounding board, he was able to recommend different specialist and explained their different philosphies and approaches which really helped. Do you have another Dr that could help with this decision? As Lou says it is not a waste of money, I always look on those sorts of things as learning curves that help us make decisions and get to where we want.

    Be back later for more personals, hope everyone is well

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    First of all huge to you Keen....just know that we are here for you what ever the outcome.

    Too Many personals for me to catch up on so I will simply say good luck to everyone who is cycling...oh and to Twomums.....IMHO get a fresh opinion. They have no right to make those judgements about your fertility on the basis of the cycles you have had without further investigation.

    Well I have to have a small personal woohoo. Since our first miscarriage in July 2004 my cycle has stretched out to 56 days:eek: . Three and a half weeks ago I started seeing an acupuncturist and a naturopath to both aid in the IVF treatments and also to see if they can help out with a digestive disorder I have which leaves me with constant nausea and tiredness. Anyways they have not even attacked the fertility side yet, have just been focussing on my digestive issue as they reckon I have problems with food stagnating and not absourbing adequate nutirents and this could have been affecting my ability to nourish the embryos. All made sense to me so I said I would give their ideas a try. So for the past 3 weeks I have been making minor changes to my diet. I have cut out diet coke and pretty much all processed food. I have swapped the foods I eat for organic varieties and anything that has additives, preservatives etc has gone. BTW I have also saved heaps on the gorcery bill......I thought it would go up but because it is all fresh stuff has ended up saving us heaps. And it has really been little changes like cutting out bikkies (they have some nice organic shortbread though) and using organic raw sugar instead of bleached white sugar, stuff like that.

    Okay If you are still with me.....here's comes the huge payoff....After three and half weeks of this and no actual fertility treatments as such I got AF today......A 33 DAY CYCLE.....WOOHOO. Eating differently has almost halved my cycle and I have barely started on it!!!! I can't believe it....I don't even care that I am not pregnant ths month...I am just so happy to have an almost normal cycle back that I am jumping for joy...Also no pain, no headaches, better digestion and more energy to boot. Just goes to show how closely related what we eat is to our fertility.

    It has all left me looking forward to this cycle with a great deal of positive energy especially as it will be our last before we start IVF (we are just waiting for our genetic karotyping results to come back in about 3 weeks time). Anyways yay for me and if anyone in this forum gets anything from this post...Yay for you too. I just can't believe diet can make such a huge difference. BTW I am a type 1 diabetic and as such I have a very healthy diet anyways it was just getting rid off all the artifical chemicals that has made the difference.

    Happy Happy Days to all

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    Good to hear of the beginnings of success on a naturopath's regimen. I too have consulted a naturopath and I feel great. I was told to eat more fish and only lamb, veal or turkey, with plenty of green veges. We are being very creative with these ingredients and have cut out all the heavily processed stuff and I am feeling great! I am also taking drops and vitamin supplements. Effects so far are that I have tons more energy. I used to be the nap queen but now I don't feel the urge to nap as much and if I do I might lie down for ten minutes and then want to get up. I used to have 2-3 hour naps all the time. Now I am just waiting to see if I get a natural AF. Keep me updated with your results!

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    Hi Girls

    Well i bit the bullet and rang my doc today and he is eager to help me in my quest to have a procedure called hysterosalpingography. Basically its a high resolution ultrasound with radiopaque medium to see if my tubes and everything are ok before we embark on IUI. We basically had a consult over the phone and he is sending me out a request form in the mail. I have to wait for AF to come and go before i can have it and the ultrasound place said to ring them when i am day one. Kim got AF yesterday so it won't be long. Even so we are having a rest cycle this month, because of all the different drugs i was on in trying to prepare for the ET that was never to be.

    I thought long and hard about changing specialists and i figure that my doctor knows me and my uterus etc better now and by all reports he is very good at what he does and has the highest success rate in the clinic i go to. We both agreed last cycle was a disaster and he went into bat for me getting my refund and he is going to bulk bill me for any other procedures because he knows that we are low on funds and that it will take longer for me to get pregnant with IUI and the fact that if we import semen from the US it will be alot more expensive than using a local donor. I think after last cycle he will be doing everything by the book so to speak so i am sticking with him after all. I'm putting the past in the past and looking upward and onward.

    Thing is the sperm from the US is of very high quality and the count is 3 to 4 times higher per vial so its value for money in my opinion. With the money we got back, we will be able to have about 6 IUI's in total, so we will be reserving 6 vials. After that, if i'm not pregnant, we will consider another IVF cycle, but that is over 6 months away...

    Thank you all for your advice and support through all of this and i hope everyone is going ok, thinking of you all..xxx
    Last edited by Megan&Kim; October 16th, 2006 at 02:02 PM.

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