Damprye, we posted at the same time. Sorry AF is showing her ugly head again. From the little bit I know, 9 days LP would be unusual. I think they say to count back 14-16 days from your period and that's when you would 'o'. I know you've found the temping hard - do the OPKs work for you at all? I really have very little experience of natural conception (sadly) but I remember it all being very confusing when I first had to chart and I don't think I really got a handle on it until I started seeing this TCM practitioner. Good luck with for next month. Hopefully you won't have to wait too much longer x