Sorry everyone, didn't know it was going to be changed so quick. Yes, my name is now India's Mum. My name wasn't Sammy so it was odd being called that in the end. When I first started posting I didn't want anyone to know I was pregnant and someone I knew posted on this site so I just used the name of a character in a book I was reading. That was almost 4 years ago now and I can't even remember what book it was!
For all those that want a girl - I read somewhere that older parents tend to produce girls, so here is hoping
India's Mum - I do not want to hear "I am so old" again because I bet you are not older than me and I am not old. WE ARE NOT OLD I SAY!!!!
Sunbeam - what is PUPO?
To all those who are crying over the BFN at 9 DPO or earlier - STOP this nonsense now!!!! I know that the manufacturers make you believe that the test can come positive this early, but honestly, very little chance of that. The implantation happens anyway between days 6-12, usually on day 8. Then it takes 2 days for the hormones to show up in the blood, and they will show up in the urine 2 days after that. So on average, the earliest you can expect a BFP is day 12-13. Now I am going to go and slap my own hands, because I am guilty of testing too early too. So hard to resist it when the sticks are right there...
Yeah, still no AF for me, maybe I miscalculated when she should come? It is 17th day since the positive OPK, she should be here, right? Unless I did not really ovulate until 2 days after the positive OPK and AF is due tomorrow. I should be more optimistic, but I have tested again yesterday and another BFN, although it was not FMU, but still... If you use OPKs, how soon after you get the positive OPK the AF comes?
Clairesmummy -so we meet again . I have just came across this article on the luteal phase defect, what causes it and how to treat it, I thought you may find this interesting.
Can i just say with my boys and this bub i got a BFP 9dpo and with Abbi i got a light BFP on the day AF was due so i am hopeing with me the early BFP means this bub is healthy like my boys.
Sunbeam-whoo hoo now the wait begins wont be long and that healthy little embie will be a beautiful bub.
Alice-praying for some strong embies for you my girl it's about time you got out of this thread and move on in to a preggy thread.
Sammy oops India's mum-love the name change.
T-Hopes-sorry i am the opposite i had to test every day from 8dpo that way the BFN either stays that way and it is not a shock or the line slowly builds up and you get more excited each day but thats me good luck and i im praying for two lines for you.
Clairsmummy-welcome these girls are awesome i miss them so much.
Saffy- the boy girl thing is so hard when we have trouble ttc you just want a baby either way i have 3 boys and when i lost my 1st girl it gutted me and my family and deep down i wanted another girl to help with the grief and pain then after ttc and our genetic issues i now dont care what i get i just want a healthy baby even if i had another boy i think it will be a miracle.
Anyway just thought i'd pop in im still waiting to find out if this baby has SLO or not i am just over 14 weeks now and feel lots of flutters and tiny kicks that feel like a bubble popping which is reasuring being so early.
I am plotting along but in the back of my mind i am terrified they will find something on U/S next week or the U/S i have in 2 and a half weeks if we get past those 2 without finding anything wrong i think we can relax and i can go bye something for bub oh! and i will be getting them to have a look to see if it's a boy or a girl.
Hi Ferals- nice to hear from you, sounds like things are as good as they can be for you while you are still on tenderhooks waiting for a result!
Alice- how are you going???
Luna- your luteal phase ( time between ovulation and AF) is always the same length apparently, different for everyone tho, usually 12-16 days?? (correct me if I'm wrong someone), so if you know how long you usually get AF after O then it should always be the same, the O day is often different though. Sorry if this does not make sense I don't even think I understand what I wrote Hopefully you will get either a bfp or Af so it becomes irrelevant!
Have a good day everyone, I am just still waiting for AF believe it or not
Luna - I too am young, however, I am a year older than you. For any older ladies I can recommend an interesting book. I just ready "The Complete Guide to Pregnancy Over 30" by Carol Winkleman. It focused mainly on those in the late 30's to mids 40's bracket.
Well I never got to hear my test results. The FS's office rang to rebook the appointment as he had to go out on an emergency. I couldn't go tomorrow as I work Fridays and they said it wouldn't be till the 11th as he was away next week. I then became very concerned that if I did find out I was pregnant next week I wouldn't be able to start the progesterone straight away and I was worried that might make a difference. Fortunately he hadn't left yet and they let me talk to him and he has written me a script so I can take them as soon as I get a positive result from a pee test.
Don't think I am pregnant anymore though. Didn't need to wee at all last night and I have had a lower back ache all morning so I think AF is on it's way instead.
Luna- Thank you for the web link it was a good read very informative, still don't know what the hang is wrong with me though, I thought maybe it was my LP that's the problem but now I'm thinking maybe I'm not Oing when I should. First cycle after my MC I O'd at CD19, the next cycle was CD23 last cycle I O'd at CD16 so I'm O'ing all over the place it would seem and I always have a temp dip the morning of the say I O. And if I can rely on my charting I had a temp dip this morning which by going on my past cycles I should O today at CD14. AF seems to arrive a few days earlier than expected for me as well. So I have no idea what my body is doing, just wish I could skip forward a week and be in the DRs now getting my BT results. AF always only last for 3 days of medium flow then usually 2 days of just some brown spotting that has never changed. Only my O time and LP length change every cycle. Confusing.
Thank you all for the welcome ladies.
Im so annoyed with my MIL right now I could scream! We have (until now) been very open about our fertility treatments to family and close friends and so far everyone had been supportive... I was in a txting conversation with MIL last night and thought I do the right thing and keep her in the loop with everything, I told her WE had decided to only do 1 IUI cycle and move straight on to IVF next month... She clearly doesnt agree and said that she thought we would give it more time and not to get my hopes up etc etc. I told her the IVF nurse agreed and she said 'nurses dont know everything!' ... Im soooo annoyed at her for not respecting the decision we have made and supporting it..
Yesterday she told my mum that Im going to fall apart if this IUI doesnt work cause my hopes were too high!! WTF!!!! Well lady... Im telling you now, not to worry about that cause I dont know what hope is anymore!!! All the hope I ever had dissapeared the day we lost our baby! I am VERY realistic about our chances!! + she also told my mum that im a Post-Natal Depression waiting to happen!!! I am so mad right now, i swear i can hear my blood bubbling!!!! And Im sooo hurt!!
Now my poor mum is so worried about me and feels bad cause she didnt realise!!! I feel Im just going thru the normal emotions of a loss and LTTC!!! This is something she knows nothing about!!! Yes, I can be sensitive but Id rather feel and be emotional than be a stone cold wench!
Whooooooooa! OK now i feel better to finally get that out... oh the sense of relief! Wish i could say that to her face!!!
For the ladies that are doing fertility treatments - have you been open with your family and friends about it all?? I think there is only a handful of ppl i will be discussing it with now! Too many opinions and they really have NO idea! Now i understand why my sister went thru all her IVF treaments so privately!!!
Im sorry to carry on but your the only ones that get it!!!!
I will be back later once Ive let all this go!! xx
God Thopes you have had a stressful few days....hope you got it out of your system, your MIL obviously has her own issues that she is taking out on you. Most people know we are doing IVF- my mum can't ever keep her mouth shut! For example the district nurse who comes to see my nanna knows! I got annoyed with my aunty ( who I love) cos she said to me once after mum must have told her I was having counselling, "Oh I didn't realise, I always thought you were a relaxed person" WTF!!!- oh thats right I can't get pregnant because I am a psycho, now it makes sense. I nearly yelled at her "I'm stresed because I can't get pregnant not the other way around" but instead I just glared at mum and left.
Claire'smummy- my cycles after a miscarriage were all over the pace like you describe, I think that is the common experience. Mine were always regular before, I don't even think they are back to normal now but now the ivf is stuffing them up. You should try charting through 'fertility friend' if you don't already it is very informative, good luck x
T-Hopes - I'd be bloody angry as well. And to talk to your Mum behind your back to me that is crossing a line and not forgivable. She has worried you mum uneccissarily (having a spelling block).
We only told my Mum and my MIL about our IVF. We told no one else. DH told his sister we were doing it but never discussed it with her. Needless to say she had to blab to 1 family member and then it did the rounds but I refused to disscuss it. It is no ones business but Mine and DH.
Family put way too much pressure on me and I don't deal well with pressure and I tend to get snappy. It's not the imediated family who gossip it's the extended family on DH side that are nosey and want to know the ins and outs. They eventually stopped asking me which I was very happy about. Not that I told them anything. After the 500th time of being asked what's happening you kind of get sick of hearing it.
I still get the "Are you UTD Yet" from one extended family member but I deny deny deny all. They never new of the first pregnancy and I'm so glad they didn't. I actually dread telling them all because they will be comparing my pregnancy to another family member's pregnancy and she's due a couple of weeks before me. Already I'm sick of hearing about her. Sick of hearing how sick she is blah blah blah. She should be god damn greatful.
Oh my we are down this morning,
Have you all forgotten it doesn't really matter what anyone thinks apart from you and your DH or partner, how could anyone else possible know what its like to mc and then TTC forever it seems and then take the brave step into getting fertility help ?
The ladies on here know how it feels and there the ones you need to talk to stuff the inlaws and outlaws what do they know !!!!
I may have had lots of kids but it has never been easy for me and if I had listened to every TOM<**** and Harrys opinions along the way well I would have had just the one kid ! so do what you feel is right stuff everyone else !!!!
Saffy- My cycles were actually worse before my MC I would have AF every 2.5-3weeks and it was horrible, then had the MC so the cycles I'm having now are actually more regular than what they were beforehand if you can believe that.....lol....ah well no doubt hopefully these BTs will come back with some answers for me, maybe........
Craftymummy- Well said I agree with you who is anybody to say anything negative about any woman and her partner that endures any type of assisted conception or IVF. I find all the women I have met that have been through it or are going through it truly inspiring. And it really proves to me how much the person really wants to be a mum and for that we all should be proud and stand tall.
Luna- I only got positive OPKs a few times but AF would show up 14 days later. As far as I know you O 24-36 hours after a positive OPK.
Claires'mum - I think you asked about suppliments ect before. Well I and a lot of ladies on here have been or are on Vitex (aka Chaste Tree) a herbal suppliment that helps balance hormones and regulate cycles (and in my case improves my mood swings no end). You might like to research it a bit. If you decide to take it I'd definitely recommend the tablet form not the liquid as its disgusting. Hopefully the bt results will shed some light on what is going on for you.
T-Hopes - You poor darling, this is all hard enough without other people putting thier sh#t on us. Crafty is right you need to recognise that it is their sh#t and not take it on board, what the hell do they know!!! What we are doing is our decision and none of their f@#king business. Hearing these things makes me glad that my family is small, well tiny really, just 4 of us! You rant anytime you need babe, we are here for you.
Crafty - You still getting boobie pains?
AFM- I went to work but left after 40 mins. The OHSS is really knocking me around, I'm just so uncomfortable if I'm not lying down. At least the constipation seems to be over, the extra pressure was really not helping. On a very more positive note I have 2 snow buds so it is all worth it.
Thanks for helping me for the 2nd day in a row! Gosh im high maintenance lately Your all sooo right, they have no idea and i just need to dismiss it all... and i have learnt the hard way not to discuss it with certain ppl!
So Ive brushed it off now after having a great day at work with lots of laughs with a great mate!! Im back on top and in control! Giddy up!!
Sunbeam! yay for the snow bubs!!! rest up with that OHSS, need to look after yourself, rest and relax as much as you can! I have a large family and whilst it is wonderful, there are certainly the down sides of ppl getting in your business! thanks for listening and responding to my little rant! xx
Crafty - It makes complete sense, thank you! And 'outlaws'... that can be their new name ! hhehehe And yes, how are to shooting BB pains going??
Saffy - yes MIL has a few issues... she can be an absolute darl sometimes and other times, my gosh!!! thx love! hope that wicked AF hurries up and arrives soon!! Mine is due on Monday so we will be on the Oct IVF road together
Porsche - I see your 9 wks now! Wow, where has the time gone! Im sure its draggin for you but cant beleive how far youve come already! Glad youve been able to keep it all secret so far, its can be hard... we never told anyone for our pregnancy, i felt so protective over the bub!! thanks for the advice gorgeous, take care and lovely to hear from u! xx
Thanks again everyone! I will be better tomorrow and no whinging from me!!!
Spoke to my ivf nurse today and meeting with her monday morning to go thru our med plan for the 1st ivf cycle! fingers crossed AF arrives on time and we can get into it!! im excited!!
love to everyone ive missed!
Alice - hope your resting up and your little eggs are forming in to beautiful embies!!! xx
Take it from me the older you get the less you listen to other people and their opinions !!!
Well still got shooting pains in the boobies every now and then oh I wonder which way it will go still 50/50 only 6 more days to wait until I can officially be late !!! can I wait it out YES I THINK SO !! I hate seeing one line !!!
Sunbeam take it easy girl you got precious cargo on board !!
Alice any news how you doing ?
Indias mum love the new name but I am so used to your old one you been on here a while now like me !!! but I will get used to it
saffy any news has the witch arrived ?
Matthews mum how you doing with the osteo ? hope your channeling your positive thoughts into your next transfer and a BFP !
Porshe wow 9wks thats awsome but I know I will be so scared until I get to 16wks so I understand your keeping it quiet but hey not long till your scan hey !
Thants about it for now enjoy your evening and sleep tight
Just had an awsome arvo on the beach with my tribe they are such beach bums !!!
Ladies, just a quick update. Still not AF, thank you for your responses about OPKs and luteal phase, that is what I thought too, that AF should be here by now. I woke up feeling hangover, although I did not drink, so I did HPT, the digital kind, it came back with PREGNANT. Still not beliving it, I did 2 FR - the ones that show you 2 lines. Absolutely positively BFN. I mean, it was a ****ty-teanger-that-does-not-use-birth-control dream test result. So I still do not know.
I read several times on this forum that when the HPT was not showing a strong line early, then the pregnancy ended in miscarriage. So now I am afraid it will be chemical. I did not even tell my DH, do not want to get his hopes up.
THopes - it's nobody's decision but yours. And I am still hoping that the AF will be late for you by, oh, about 9 months at least ;-)
WOOHOO LUNA!!!!! Thats fantastic, sounds like a strong result to me so don't stress ( if you can help it), bout time we got some bfp action here CONGRATULATIONS!!!
Congratulations to me too- AF came last night- woohoo-haha!!
. I have just came across this article on the luteal phase defect, what causes it and how to treat it, I thought you may find this interesting. 
Hopefully you will get either a bfp or Af so it becomes irrelevant!
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I am so mad right now, i swear i can hear my blood bubbling!!!! And Im sooo hurt!! 
so it is all worth it.
Your all sooo right, they have no idea and i just need to dismiss it all... and i have learnt the hard way not to discuss it with certain ppl! 
And yes, how are to shooting BB pains going??
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