Thanks Sue...yep, she knows...I've been giving her a shoulder to cry on while she's been bemoaning the length of time it's taken them to get pregnant (I was very good at resisting the urge to tell her that getting worked up when it hadn't even been six months was bloody ridiculous)...so she's aware of how long it's been and of every disappointment...I guess she just doesn't understand how her luck could be a further disappointment...