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    Musik - Yeah, it's been a long time TTC but a LOT has happened in that time (including 3 marriages). The first time I was on Clomid I was uneducated and VERY unhealthy - I only did 2 cycles before I gave up ... all too hard The second time we discovered that the problem was with my (then) DH not me. This time we're fully educated, my PCOS is under control and DH is all good (has 2 kids already) so in a way, I feel like this is the first time I've really had a good hard crack at it ... so to speak LOL!

    Anyway, enough waffling from me ... I'm sure you didn't want to know all that lol

    Tammara - Absolutely, I agree! I invite anyone to bring on the 'me' posts ... we're all here to support each other

    I hope your men are all spoiling you rotten today girls


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    Dee: I just read your post *hugs* won't say anymore because you've prolly heard it all before and i know sometimes its just nice to vent

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    Hi Girls - Dee sorry to hear, Good luck with the IVF - and I agree please make sure you make it all about you for a bit!!!

    As for me - well AF arrived for me yesterday! All day Saturday I was in extreme pain and then they came! I am still in pain. So guess I better ring my specialist to organise this months worth of ultra sounds and like! Oh well - at least I know I O'ed this month been.
    I will be ordering some of that Preseed today! because I apparently released two eggs and there is apparently nothing wrong with DH as he has been tested, so obviously they are un-co!
    All the best ..

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    Hi Everyone,

    I hope you don't mind if I join this group - I have been reading your posts for awhile and I can relate to so many of you!!
    I have PCOS and I am insulin resistant we have been ttc for just over a year. I have been on 500 x 1 met for 3 weeks now with little side effects and I started temping this month aswell. The temping is a little confusing as I have had two jumps in temp in the last week and now I am unsure when I have ovulated!! so we are just baby dancing all the time!
    We have had more bad news yesterday with my husband finding out he may have a low sperm count - I am off to my FS tommorrow to have her look at the results because his GP really wasn't helpful!! My FS wants me to go on clomid but I am now unsure if this can happen if he has a low sperm count - does anyone know??

    Mahli09

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    31becc - Sorry to hear that AF is giving you grief - I hope you're feeling better now. Great news that you're O'ing though - I hope the preseed helps and gets you a BFP this cycle

    Mahli - Hi & Welcome I hope the Met sorts things out for you - it did for me! I'm the worst person to talk to about temping .... I just don't do it because I get too frustrated with it. I prefer my OPK's - a LOT of people have told me that OPK's don't work for us PCOS girls but they work for me. I've also been told that 'Maybe Baby' won't work and for me, that's true *shrug* I think regular BD'ing is the only way to go when you have no idea when O was or is - that way you know that you've given yourself every chance and there's no regrets at the end of the cycle (you know, that sense of satisfaction knowing that you did everything you could?). Depending on the problem with your DH's sperm, the FS may suggest you go straight to IVF (or ICSI?) or he may be happy for you to proceed with the Met & Clomid - the Clomid will get you O'ing with more eggy's so I guess it can't hurt to give DH's spermy's more targets I hope the FS has some good news for you

    AFM - Well AF played a trick on me and arrived a day late - getting my hopes up when she didn't arrive on time Oh well, here we are on CD1 of Cycle # 5 and AF is being a witch!

    to everyone!

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    Hey girls - I had to go and get an urgent PT done even though I had AF - because I was in sooooo much pain. But turned out negative~ Apparently it can happen!

    Welcome Mahli - I use the OPT - my FS recommends I use Seritec brand - you can get O tests from lullaby conceptions (website) though and buy in bulk and they are a lot cheaper than from the chemist and then POS every day after you you finish AF's. I did the temping thing and it really stresses you. I could not pin point the day for O doing that - but no wonder wasn't Oing!

    Kylie - you poor thing - fingers crossed for this month. I feel for you - can understand with the hormonal thing prior to AF - I turn into a witch! My poor husband! I don't start taking my chlomid until day 5 - so on Thursday! Good luck

    Welcome Musik to the link - this is a great link - I am about to start #3 on Chlomid - first month was OK, but 2nd gave me hell - absolutely shocked. Felt like from my ribs down was bruised both on my back and front - I hope you don't get side effects like this.
    Baby dust to everyone!

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    31becc - Oh no! You poor bugger! Has the pain stopped now? Do they know what caused it? I find that if I have a bad cycle then AF is going to be a shocker too. I'm sorry about the BFN and I hope that this cycle is good to you! I start Clomid on Saturday (CD 5-9) so it looks like I'll be following you through this cycle. How long is your cycle?

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    Thank you to all you lovely ladies that have been a support to me... Thanks for your well wishes and I hope that you will all have big fat BFP's before long and that you don't have to folow the same path as me...
    So sorry Bec and Kylie that AF reared her nasty head.. i was really hoping that there would be some good news...
    Hey Bonnie and Musik - How are you both travelling.. I hope the Clomid is not messing you around too much...
    Mahli09 - I hope that you can get your cycle sorted out and that your FS can give you some answers about DH's sample.. When my DH had his first SA our GP thought it was tragic but when I met my FS for the first time he assured me his sample was normal... I don't think GP's know that much about these things.. I hope your FS can help...I was temping and it worked for me because I don't have PCOS so my cycle is regular and as it only pinpoints "O" after it has happened it's prob no good for cycles that vary so much.. Good luck if you go the OPK's...
    Tammara - I had a great night out with the girls... I had a big fish bowl ****tail... Mmm yummy.. I hope you're travelling well...
    AFM - I have my FS appointment on the 2nd March where I guess we work out our schedule from there.. I was thinking I could maybe start an IVF cycle 2 weeks after that which is when AF would be due again but I now have to go away for 2 weeks for work in that month.. Kinda 1 week home then the other away then 1 week home then away again so I think it might be too hard to start before that's out of the way.. bugger.. i guess i'm on a break.. lol.. I will still lurk and check on you all and if you want to visit and say Hi I have a TTC journal on here.. Take care
    Dee

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    Kylie - last month it was 32 days, but it ranges. How long is yours? Prior to going on chlomid it was all over the place - ranging from 21 days to 44 and then sometimes not getting them - so a bit stressy.

    The pain has stopped and I have already finished AF - yesterday! They don't know what caused it, they thought it might of been an EP - but wasn't, so they are monitoring me this month, even more closely!~ It was horrid feeling. Hopefully it doesn't happen this month again.

    Good luck Dee with the IVF - hopefully it works for you. Fingers Crossed

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    Hi Girls

    Ive been reading your posts and find it a little funny that while you girls are dreading AF, for once i am looking forward to it so i can start taking the clomid lol no doubt in a couple of months i will be dreading it also

    PS - not funny that you are getting AF but im sure you know what i mean

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    It is funny Tammara that we spend most of our waking time thinking about AF one way or another.. She's so cruel..
    Good luck hun.. I hope she shows her wicked head soon...

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    Hi Girls,

    Firstly thank you all for making me feel welcomed into this thread - it's nice to have people to talk to about this stuff, and thank you for your info on the OPK's I don't seem to have that much luck with them I always am ovulating with them (something to do with PCOS and my LH levels)- although I haven't used the brand you talked about 31Becc.

    Im not to sure if I will need to worry about going on chlomid, temping and OPK's anymore anyway after my visit to the FS today - it seems that DH's SA is alot worse than I thought and he has to go and have a more detailed analysis done - I felt so sorry for him he was so crushed by the result . Unless the next test is a thousand times better it looks like IVF or ICIS is our next avenue - So Dee looks like we might be IVF buddies too.

    I know what you mean Tammara about AF half the month you dread her and the other half you want her to hurry up so you can start the next lot of TTC methods!

    Anyway time for bed - it's been a long day...

    Lots of to you all

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    For your DH Mahli09... It can be so hard on them.. I wish you didn't have to be considering IVF but I know for me that I feel so much more in control with the idea that I know how every step has gone.. Having unexplained infertility means that I don't know where the process is breaking down and I will hopefully overcome that with IVF... I hope you don't take this the wrong way but every cloud has a silver lining and your DH's analysis may have saved you quite a long time of .. they are hopefully going to get you cranking along and you'll have that BFP in no time... This journey changes all of us... One way or another... I hope you don't have to walk as far...

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    Hi everyone!

    Dee - I totally understand where you're coming from when you say that you feel more in control with IVF - I've been thinking about this a lot lately and I feel that I won't be doing enough until I've gone to IVF. I'm wishing you all the luck I can muster that you get your BFP first cycle!

    31becc - My first 3 cycles on Clomid were 35 days (like clockwork) and the last cycle was 36 days so not too far out of whack. Before Clomid (on Met alone) my cycles were just like yours, all over the place (28-41 days)! Before Met it was not unusual for me to go without AF for 4 months and then once I had AF for 3 months I'm so glad the pain has gone now and AF has taken a hike. It's really odd but I had the same kind of thing - mega pain on day 1 & 2 of AF and now on day 3 she's almost disappeared - very odd

    Tammara - I know exactly what you mean LOL! It's odd that we think so much about AF when we dislike her so much I hope she arrives for you soon so you can get cracking

    Mahli - I'm so sorry to hear about the news from your FS I'm sure dh was devastated - I don't know why but us girls seem to take infertility a lot better than the guys ... maybe they feel like it's taking away their 'manhood'? I have to agree with Dee though, you may well get your BFP a whole lot quicker on IVF ... although I am sorry that you have to go through it Good Luck hon

    I'll be back for a AFM post - dh just got home and it's his birthday so I should go and spoil him LOL!

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    Back again

    I just wanted to have a vent about a GP I saw yesterday if that's o.k? - My regular GP has gone a bit troppo since her marriage break-up (crying to patients!) so I thought I'd just see the new Doc because I only needed a Met script.

    Anyways, he asks me why I'm taking Met so I tell him that I have PCOS and he says "what does the Metformin do?" so I explained that it regulates my cycles to a certain degree and without it, I go months at a time without AF (hellooooo patient here - shouldn't YOU be telling me what it does grrrrrr! ) so he looks at DH, laughs and says "isn't it preferable to not have a period - especially for you?" this was my hubby's face ---->

    At this point, I was starting to boil but he asked me about our TTC journey and the PCOS so I started to explain it all to him and he began waving his hands at me in a 'shut up' motion DH stands up and says "obviously you don't care Doc so if you give us the script we'll be on our way" - Doctor says "oh no, I do care, do you think I need to do some homework on PCOS?" to which DH replies "errrrrrr yes!" and then he took the cake with this comment.......

    "Not many people know this but I will tell you - if you lose weight you will cure the PCOS - it's the only known cure for PCOS and therefore I don't believe in PCOS only in overweight women who believe they have it"

    On top of that, I told him that I have a 16 day luteal phase and he says "no you don't - I practice evidence based medicine and the luteal phase is 14 days long ALWAYS!"

    Phew! I feel better after getting that out LOL! Sorry about the rant, it's just been bothering me since yesterday

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    Ohh Kylie thats terrible!!

    It's horrible to think that someone like him is allowed to treat patients and prescribe medication, especially when he doesn't even know what he is talking about!! He should keep his uneducated opinions to himself!!

    Mahli09

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    My goodness Kylie - what a d.... head!!!!! I can't believe he would make a comment like that to your DH - especially when it is a very sensitive subject. What a joke of a Doctor. Do you have a Fertility specialist. My local doctor referred me as he would not subscribe anything. This place I go to is brilliant, they monitor everything. The only problem is, is that they are in Albury, so don't know if you are near there. I can give you his details if you want.

    Mahli09 - can see where Dee is coming from with her comments about IVF. When we were initially considering trying - a doctor told us to try for at least a year, then start worrying! - so we tried for the year - as it turned out I probably only O about twice in that time! It is very frustrating to find out that after doing to monthly thing for a year and wondering the whole time why you aren't preggies, yet and find out after we could have saved a lot of time! So hopefully it does cut out some waiting time for you.

    Tammara - understand the AF thing - I was glad to get mine this month as I was in a lot of pain and knew I could get on with this month. hate the waiting game!

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    Hi Ladies

    I know! What a to$$er! I've dealt with some incompetent Doctors in my time but he takes the cake Thanks for letting me vent

    becc - My usual GP is fantastic (when her marriage isn't breaking down lol) and she's even qualified to prescribe Clomid and she's very interested in PCOS - she literally gets really excited when she finds out about new drugs or research that may help PCOS. I live in the middle of nowhere so the best we have is a OBGYN visiting once a week (or fortnight, can't remember). The FS that I have to see is 6 hours away - this is the whole reason we haven't started IVF yet. I could be monitored from out here BUT we only have one x-ray department and it's a minimum one month wait so I would have to drive at least 3 hours (nearest town) to get a scan

    Oh dear, I've waffled on again ... sorry ladies

    I hope everyone's having a great day
    Last edited by *Kylie*; February 20th, 2009 at 10:57 AM. Reason: Typo's!

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