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Thread: TTC & Taking Clomid &/0r Metformin ~ January 2006

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    Mako, don't forget about the medicare safety net! Once your out of pocket expenses go over $1000 for the year, and it looks like you'll do that pretty quickly (even quicker for us on IVF ), then medicare pays 80% of your out of pocket expenses anyway. That will certainly reduce the amount of money you need to access to make sure you can cover everything. Just make sure you are registered with medicare for it.

    BW

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    Mako, I was going to say the same thing as BW - with the safety net, it should only be your first (and let's hope that's all you'll need!) IUI cycle that will be this expensive. I don't know about details, but with my clinic, once you reach the safety net, they say o.o.p's for IUI are only about $160!!

    So just let your DH know that it'll only be this first one that is so costly. It's the same for us and IVF (although like you, I'm praying we'll only need one go at this), only the first cycle is going to be expensive, after that it is much more affordable (thank goodness) and will definately allow us to go back again.

    Make sure you are registered for the safety net with Medicare before you start your treatment!! Very important because it will save you soooooo much money.

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    Hi Willoow and BW, Thanks for the info about the safety net thing. I've just spent some time talking to a friend who has just done her 3rd round of IUI at the same clinic and she said that she pays $680 each time and doesn't get anything back . This seems a bit strange to me and I think I'll give the clinic a call and see what they say.
    Anyway I'm not going to stress about it because at the end of the day its only money and how do you put a price on having a baby???

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    Mako, that does sound very expensive compared to my clinic - which clinic do you go to?

    I agree with you that you can't put a price on it, but if financial strains are going to stop you from having another go, it's worthwhile trying to find another clinic that perhaps is a bit more affordable?

    Anyway, good luck with it all! You can always do this first one and then reassess if you need to.

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    Hi Willow I'll be going to Hunter IVF. They are the cheapest in the Newcaslte area and my fs is associated with them too so I don't think it will matter too much. I have enquired into AIVF in Gosford which was cheaper for some things but at the end of the day it will take me 1 hour each way to get there and will probably cost more in the end. What clinic do you go to?

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    Mako, I'm going to make a huge assumption that because you are in Newcastle, you are using the SIVF clinic up there? It's the only one I know of, anyway. I've just checked their web site, and the initial out of pocket cost for IUI is listed as $1,316.45, but after the 80% medicare rebate it's only $168.80. It seems that those figures include day hospital fees which would be covered by private health insurance, not medicare. How far would it be for you to travel to the Central Coast? The IVFAustralia clinic there lists a $850 up front fee, with out of pockets costs of $155 after the safety net has been reached. Although, with the price of petrol, anything you save on the treatment, you may end up spending on travel costs! I used to live in Newcastle myself, and I still have a lot of friends and family up there. I was originally very upset about us needing to move to Sydney for work, but with all the medical problems I've had (as well as the infertility issues), I'm now very glad we are here. Although, I do hope to get back to Newcastle permanently one day.

    BW

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    Mako, if they are the cheapest clinic that is located within a convenient distance then there's not much you can do.

    I wondered too if it was the equivalent of SIVF up there (I think Hunter IVF might be??) because they are by far the most expensive here in Sydney.

    Like I said, hopefully you'll get lucky first go!

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    I was just trying to edit the previous post, but it won't work! Hunter IVF is separate to the Newcastle branch of SIVF. But from the quick look around their website (not easy to navigate!) I couldn't find any indication of fees. I didn't realise that there was a Hunter IVF.

    BW

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    Willow and BW, Hunter IVF is different to SIVF. HIVF is much cheaper than SIVF by a long way.
    Just a quick update on whats going on, My lovely MIL has been thinking about what I'd told her regarding my appointment and having to consider IUI. I told her that we are going to wait until March before we go ahead.I didn't tell her the reason why we are waiting and she has offered to pay for the treatment. I was totally blown away by her generousity and have not been able to think straight since. I haven't told dh yet as he's still at work. This dream may be closer that what we think. I haven't accepted the offer yet. I will talk to dh and see what he thinks first.

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    Wow, Mako! I guess she's desperate for Grandchildren! I'm not sure if I could accept that sort of offer, either... Lots for you to think about.

    BW

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    mako - that's a really nice thing for your MIL to offer. I'm not sure what I would do in that situation, depends on what type of relationship you and your DH have with her. At least it gives you another option, but you are right - holding that little baby in your arms will be all worth it, no matter how much it costs.

    BW - how are you going with the metformin today? I'm suppose to take mine 3 times a day, but never remember and still I get the side-effects. I've always been told to take them with my meal to reduce the side-effects, but when I mentioned this at my last appt my FS said to take them after my meal, and I might feel better - and it has been a little bit better, but not much.

    How is everyone else going? Still very quiet in here - must be the holidays!

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    HI guys......long time no talk......I have kinda been hibernating away from the belly threads having a mental break before we start IVF. I hope everyone is doing well and heading that bit closer towards those elusive BFPs. As for me it is cycle day 3 today (oops cycle day four - it's after midnight :eek: ). I start the BCP on Wednesday and then we are into the down reg cycle full swing.
    How's this for luck though.....As you can read from my sig we are getting married on February 24th. Well, count 42 days from Saturday just gone and what do you get - February 24th......we are timed to have an egg pick up on our wedding day - OMG!!! I reckon that is just a classic!
    Because we are having PGD, thay can only do one patient a day through the specialised microscopes and testing machinery so they will have to manipulate the cycle to fit the EPU in with the timetable so I said can we kinda try to avoid that weekend. They are now going to leave me on the pill for an extra week so now EPU will be around 2nd March, which is when Hubby is supposed to be in Sydney at the annual trade fair!!! You can't win I tell ya. I told him he will have to make his deposit and then catch a fast plane up there later....hehehe.

    Metformin... I know a bit about it through my having diabetes. Some suggestions for the nausea:

    You should always wean onto it to avoid the diarrhea. If you get this you can try stepping the dose back a smidge for a while until you are tolerating it better and then try the higher dose again. There is also a new slow release version just out which is good but not many docs know about it yet. Also you can try splitting the dose if you are not already doing that. It is usually best on a full stomach so just after you have eaten which ties in with what you are doing Belinda. Definitely enquire about the slow release form though.....the scuttle butt on the D forums is pretty positive about it so far.

    other than that all is well - unless you count mothers who say they want to do the bridal dresses and then want to do them their way not the way I want them - friggin riggin aaargh!!!!

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    I think I forgot my lunch time dose yesterday - oops! I certainly did feel better yesterday, though. I'm already on the slow release version, and I always tolerated the metformin well when I was on 1000mg/day. Once I'd read that the usual dose for PCOS was higher than 1000mg, I did put myself up to 1500mg/day - but I didn't notice any difference, and I went back to the 1000mg I was prescribed when I started going to the FS. Then I was taking one with breakfast and two with dinner (which was often two just before I went to bed as I'd keep forgetting), and never had problems. The problems only started when I did as the FS suggested and was taking one three times a day. I didn't like the idea of taking an extra half a tablet morning and night when I have slow release... Hopefully it was just a slightly dodgy tummy for a bit, and things will be a bit better today (must remember that dose!). If it's just as bad, I might have to do the half a tablet thing - I never had problems with the non-slow release stuff.

    Thanks for dropping in and giving us that info, Melbel!

    BW

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    Hi all,

    I just wanted to let you all know that tiggy has recently joined the LT forums as a moderator. Tiff used to to inhabit the LTTTC forums when I was there and is the most wonderful, sympathetic ear if you ever need one!

    love
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    What has peoples weight loss been like once starting Metmorfin? I know im not using it, could be (Yes Bw, just thinking about every possiable option for me)

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    Summer, you're as bad as me!

    The story of my weight...

    While on the pill I was sitting on 68kg. When I stopped, I sort of exploded up to 70, which gradually crawled up to 73kg at the absolute worst. That was the point I started metformin, and with a low-carb, low-GI diet I managed to come back down to 68kg fairly quickly. Three days of the high-carb, pre-GTT diet gained me an extra kg very quickly. The dose increase brought me back down to 68kg, and the aim is to get back to 65kg - which is where I was before my arthritis needed to be treated with prednisone.

    That said, it's not metformin alone that causes the weight loss, it does make it easier if you are insulin resistant, but you do need to watch your diet and exercise to get full advantage from it.

    BW

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    Thanks! How tall are you btw?
    As you know my weight is an issue, have been eating healthy (yes even having soy! remember when i said I wouldnt try it) and exercising (should be doing more though) but nothing seems to be shifting. I think ive put on weight. im probably doing too much muscle building exerises rather than loosing weight ones. Yes, i was just hoping that if i need to go on Metmorfin that it might help drop some kg. A new day, a new stress for me.

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