TTC & Taking Clomid &/0r Metformin ~ July - Oct 2007

[kristie86]

Hi everyone.
Ellas mum: Im still tryin to adjust to my sil pregnancy but i think i am coming to terms with it.

I am just starting to think what my next option is after metformin and how long should i try on the metformin till i try the next option. If someone could tell me what the next option is after the metformin that would be great. The metformin just doesnt seem to be workin for me and it is a bit of a let down cause before starting on it i read so many ppls succsess stories and read about the great statistics. And it seems to be having no effect on me at all.

[lismith25]

Hi everyone having a black day today....things have not been going well and now have found out that I didnt ovulate . Started crying this morning over trivial things and have now taken over crying over my crap body.
And am now quite possibly for the first time since we started trying... i am starting to despair that maybe im just not going to be able to conceive.

I guess this my moarning period, no doubt after a good dose of alcohol, things will seem better.

clomid cycle number 4 here we come

[MUM2JADEN]

Hi there Lismith25, I'm in a similar boat to you, I'm on my 3rd round going on 4th of clomid.....AF is due any day now, as there are too many symptoms to ignore.....I know how you feel.......you get excited at the beginning of every month that this is going to be it, you take your tablets, you do all the right things, have loads of sex, then the dreaded TWW, living with the hope that again this is it.......then whammo narda.....nuthin' it's like a kick in the teeth.....That's why I feel like getting smashed as soon as I can to take away the pain.......In my case it's the not being in control of the situation that makes it so frustrating.....I've done everything I've put my mind to in my lifetime, except this......The question that burns bright for me is is it ever going to happen or not....if I knew it wasn't, then I could just give up and enjoy the other things that life has to offer me, but the not knowing is the hardest.....

Sorry if I've brought anyone down with my vent.....but that's how it is....we must all keep each other pumped and positive along this journey as it is one of the toughest mentally.....When my AF arrives, I'm going to have a bottle or two of champagne for my 39th B'day, then I'm going out to buy an exercise machine, so I can look hot when I turn 40!!!!heheheheheheheh....don't mind me I'm just mad......cheer up Lismith25....

Kazz


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[lismith25]

Thanks Kazz, you made me smile.....and yes we should remain positve.
The hardest part for me is that I have only had one month in the last 8 where it could have been possible to get preggers and I just want to be given a fair chance. And its going to sound strange but I am having spasms and odd bits of cramping so something is obviously going on down there (their obviously having a party that i wasnt invited too) and dh told me he thought I had, as I had the same smell I had last time......why does it have to be so confusing???? Anyway it ok now.... I did get drunk, thursday and last night but it was medicinal obviously

Spoke to my gyno...he said he wasn't worried but concerned!! he is putting me up to 100mg for the next 3 months and then we are stopping the clomid, cos if that doesnt do it, its not going to work and we have to try other options.Im probably going to have crappy side-effects with this lot as well but if it works i'll take just about anything.

And as af isnt going to appear, i'll pretend i have had a 28 day cycle and start the tablets next week.........so again lets try for ovulation

On the lighter side....dh has won a reprieve from doing his test..I told him that if we didnt get pregnant this time he was being marched into the lab....ha oh well I still might just to put him under the microscope for a bit

Goodnesss its a bit of a rant.....apologies for that.

WE WILL CONQUER THIS

Kazz I hope you have a great birthday

[principessa76]

Hi lismith,

I've been watching this thread for a while. Thought I'd stick my head in an respond to your last post.

I've just had my first Clomid O - CD29. I started on 25mg for 5 days then had a BT and it showed my hormones weren't responding. My FS then upped the dose straight away to 50mg for 3 days (no luck). We then did 3 days again at 50mg still no luck. This last dose I did 50mg for 5 days and I O'd 5 days after taking the last tab.

I asked my FS about the late O and she said that its not a problem. That the egg quality will be totally fine. I had a BT on Monday which showed a good hormone response but no O (and my OPK was -ve). On Tues night my OPK was +ve (very unexpected) and then on Wed it showed I was O'ing! Its such a relief to get the O isn't it! I just wish DH and I had a bit more warning so we could have plenty of up there to greet the eggie. Hopefully its enough though. If I'm not UTD after this cycle then I'm to start on 50mg CD2-CD6 and see how we go from there.

for your BT and the 2WW. Sending you heaps of

[TwoMums]

I had trouble trying to find you girls, the July date on this thread kind of threw me off!!

Oh well, to tell you all a little about us, my partner kim is on her 6th cycle of IUI with donor sperm. We did get pregnant on her 2nd cycle but sadly lost the baby at 8 weeks due to a Subchorionic Hematoma.

We were pretty happy that it only took 2 cycles for kim to become pregnant, seen as how i had done 3 IUI's then moved on to 3 cycles of IVF. I even used kims eggs for one cycle and had no luck at all.

We are starting to get really scared that maybe the pregnancy in March was just a fluke. Kim had to have a D&C on April 19th and she didnt get AF until 6 weeks later. We had the chromosome tests and everything came back normal, and we found out that it was a little girl that we lost. Anyway we got right back on the horse and did a Clomid cycle in Jun, Jul, Aug and nothing... each time she had about 2 or 3 follicles. Maybe we have just missed the boat due to our age.

This time we did a combined cycle of Clomid and injectables for the first time. She took 50mg Clomid days 2-6 as well as 75iu Puregon from days 7-12. The ultrasound on wednesday showed 2 x 17.9mm follicles and 4 smaller ones and the doctor said that kim responds to clomid better than the FSH strangely. We triggered last night and go for IUI tomorrow morning.

Just looking for some support from other girls in the same boat as us.

[Indadhanu]

Does anyone else have a problem with dizziness on Clomid?

Last night I had a real adventure lol, i felt like I was drunk, I would move my head and the whole world spun (:P I wasn't drinking or on anything whacky either! Just the Clomid lol!). It was actually a little dangerous, as I stumbled a few times in the shower. It was weird.

Well, today is CD6, so only one more dose to take, I guess that if I'm not getting dizzy on Sunday then its probably the Clomid.

This is the second cycle on Clomid, and it didn't happen last cycle. Its happening a bit today too. I'm not dehydrated either (I was worried it might have been low blood pressure). Very strange. Just wondering if this is something I should be worried about. It says "dizziness and lightheadedness" on the side effects thing in the packet, so I guess its normal.

It was just very very strange!

Other than that the Clomid is treating me quite well. Still get the hot flushes, but no massive headaches like last time. Heres hoping its ripening a lovely big eggie!! Or eggies!

[lismith25]

Hi ladies thought I would share my joy.....I have just had confirmation that I did ovulate....so there you have it o at cd26....god damn my body gives me the run around. Had a BT 3DPO and prog was 50nmol and I have another one 9DPO (was supposed to be 7DPO but its the weekend)so hopefully it will be a little stronger then, i guess that is what they are looking for!!!!

So I am back waiting again for a little sign or af.....but I dont want to tempt fate and go the the tww thread so I am going to wait right here.

Hopefully now I wont need to go up to 100mg a day
for everyone.....cmon we deserve to have some good news in this thread.

Princiepessa76 - thanks for that, glad to hear I am not the only one who's body cant make up its mind.
Mumtwo - welcome were all pretty sane here ...well some of the time
Leasha - this thread teaches us that unless you are a freak nothing is the same twice in a row with this drug....it made me slightly woozy as well obviously created by men lol

[Indadhanu]

lismith: we're al pretty sane here huh? Except when we're on the TWW, but that time just doesn't count right!?!! Hearing you on the side effects thing... if I have to take it a few more cycles I bet I'll have discovered some side effects they've never heard of lol, since I seem to just be running down the list and checking them off "yep, had that, yep, that one too, ohhh haven't had that, maybe next time..." lol. Congrats on your O too

Hope this month is the month for everyone!

Princiepessa: YAY! For ovulation! Now for the TWW lol
TwoMums: Hi *waves* I said hi on my TTC journal, but thought I'd say it again!

I wrote my post in the other one, so I won't repeat myself! Last Clomid tonight (woot!) and scan next Thursday, which is CD12, I told them...too early... last cycle I wasn't ready for the trigger until CD14, and had IUI on CD15, so theres no way CD12 is give any results other than the FS telling me to come back tomorrow!
Of course, they won't listen to me lol.

Oh, I had a question... should they be taking blood to monitor my hormone levels? BT in April showed I have elevated LH levels during luteal phase, and maybe soemthing that will impact on becoming pregnant? Maybe I should bring it up...?

[principessa76]

Hi Everyone,

lismith - Congrats on the O I hope it was truly spectacular. Good luck for your BT

leasha - Good luck on your next scan. Its very frustrating when health professionals don't listen. Its important that you have faith in your FS and trust that they know what they're doing but at the same time its your body and you've got to go with your instincts too and stick up for yourself. My FS monitors me via BT only. I had an ultrasound when I was originally diagnosed with PCO but none since. My last BT indicated that O was imminent and that's been it for this cycle.... just straight on to the 2WW. I've been temping too and I've had the temp rise so I'm sure the O happened. Also, of interest I was dizzy the first couple of days I was on Clomid and then not since. I wasn't sure if I was coming down with something or if it was a side effect. I kind of felt that weird dizzy feeling like I get when I have a hangover

Twomums - for you for a BFP this month

kristie86 - Your spotting totally could be an implantation bleed. Do you have any idea if you've O'd? Have you been using OPKs or temping? Have you had any ewcm? Maybe you should do a HPT. You could be pg or it could be just some hormonal changes as the Metformin is having an effect. Good luck

Me - This is the longest 2WW ever I'm only 6 DPO today. I've started imagining a few symptoms but I'm not out of control yet

[lismith25]

Hi everyone, just thought i'd pop in to see how everyone is

...im going batty waiting.............. I am now 10dpo with no obvious symptoms that couldnt also be from af heading in this direction....little bit of cramping and twinges, getting touchy.....something a bit different though I am having hot flushes...face goes bright red and then I go woozy and i have the most disgusting taste in my mouth...but i could also be delusional from the clomid

So was wondering if I could pick your brains....prog level 3dpo 50nmol/ prog level 8dpo 42nmol thats not good if its already dropping is it? though its hasnt dropped hugely....does anyone know how the levels work?

And does anyone have any suggestions on when I should bite the bullet and test...I keep reading that most people will show 14dpo is this right no matter how late you ovulate......aaahh its all so confusing, now I am going insane

[Indadhanu]

lismith:

They say that the progesterone peak is defined as above 15nm, so your levels sound good. I guess theres not much to do except wait and see what your levels do... if they're going to drop suddenly, they'll be doing it now (10-12DPO).

As for testing... did you get the HCG trigger? I would suggest waiting until about 12 days after the trigger. A positive should show around 14-16DPO (of course some lucky ducks get it earlier, and some never show a BFP until 5 weeks!).

Sounds promising for the symptoms...

[principessa76]

CONGRATULATIONS Lismith!
That's truly wonderful news. Wishing you a happy and health pg.
Thanks so much for the baby dust - your good news has given me hope.

Sending you heaps of

[TwoMums]

Congratultions Lismith!!!!!!!!!!!!! All the very best for a H & H pregnancy!!

[principessa76]

Hi lismith,
Just wondering how the BT went yesterday - is everything official? I hope all is well.

[principessa76]

Hi Everyone,

Looks like we're all in the 2WW now! I hope we all get our BFP's this month and join lismith

leasha - I hope your 2WW goes really quickly and ends with good news

Mum2jaden - I've got my for you!

Racey - Sorry I've got no advice re. CD21 BT results but I hope you get your BFP really soon

Twomums - Good on you for waiting to test! Its so hard though isn't it? Those last few days of the 2WW just go sooooooo slowly. Its impossible not to go crazy! I hope you get your BFP in a couple of days. Even if you don't, its not over until AF arrives.

Me - I'm 15DPO now. I tested yesterday and got a BFN. Very depressing but on a positive note, no sign of AF and my temps are still up today. If temps are still up tomorrow I'll test again then.

Just wondering, for those of you who this is not your first Clomid cycle, what was your LP length while on Clomid? Naturally, my LP length was 13 days. I know the Clomid can lengthen the LP but how much?

All round!

[principessa76]

Hi Everyone,

Just checking in to let you know I'm out this month. AF has arrived today. I've got my for the rest of you in the TWW. I hope we'll have some more BFPs really soon. Good luck!

lismith -Thanks for advice. Its great that your pg is going so well! Sending you some Hopefully next cycle will be my time.

[principessa76]

Hi Everyone,

Twomums - So sorry AF arrived. Enjoy your TTC break! You'll be refreshed and ready for your BFP next cycle.

Twinkie - This is my 2nd cycle now. Last cycle I was SURE I was getting ready to O (ewcm etc) but my BT showed I wasn't. Then when I actually did O it caught me by surprise. Good luck

Me - Starting the whole process again now. I really hope I O quickly this time - last cycle I had to wait until CD29.