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Thread: TTC & Taking Clomid &/or Metformin ~ December 06

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    Ktgirl, how bad are the injections, really? I'm pretty sure I'm going to end up at that point myself...

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    Mako- Thanks for your prayers. You know Mum's they are always right so I do take note of what she says and it makes a lot of sense. My Mum although it almost 26 years since she had her first child also believes that she had PCOS as my sister and I have both got it and she experienced most of the same symptoms that I now have. So I think she really understands first hand how hard it is to fall PG for some people. Anyway I am also keeping everything crossed for you this month too hopefully we both start the new year off well

    BW- I am being truly honest with you when I say the injections are a piece of cake. When the Dr first handed me the needle to teach me how it was done I hesitated because I was afraid of what it was going to feel like and after I had done it I was like "oh is that it!!!" It is a pen so the cartridge is already in there and all you have to do is put on a new needle when you are ready to give yourself the injection and dial up the dosage that you need. There is only a small amount of needle that you have to put in like 1cm or so and then you just push the end of the pen. It is so simple and it really doesn't hurt, there is just a slight little sting and that is it but I think that is because the medicine is cold as you need to keep it in the fridge. I leave mine out of the fridge for a little while before I do it but I just get impatient. Ok now I am rambling. I hope that helps

    Well ladies I have had a crap day at work just so busy... I hate Mondays. So I am going to have a nice relaxing bath. Hope you are all having a good day. Love to everyone.

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    Thanks for asking everyone. Well I was right I haven't yet ovulated. My follie is now 30mm which is one big follicle! My lining is still good and because the follicle has continued to grow, the risk of the egg being too mature isn't an issue. So, it was well worth the trip.

    My opk's are quite dark today not a true positive but I expect they will be by tomorrow. I have just rung the gorgeous Jodie at Lullaby and she has posted me some more express.
    Kirsten had run out in her surgery but she says she recommends testing twice a day around expected ovulation as some women can miss the surge... I know that's what the opk folk say but I hadn't heard an obs say that before so that was interesting...

    Debbie - I would never tell you to shut up!!!!
    But just because you are on clomid doesn't mean you will ovulate. Also when a follie has ripened and stays at a certian size the egg
    inside that follie has the potential to be too mature and therefore unable to be fertilised. Also, serophene or clomid has it's side affects. One of them is preventing the endometrium having adequate *thickness* . This happens after using the clomid monthly and sometimes starts to rear it's head at around 3months. (sometimes earlier and often later). Some FS recommend only 3 months on clomid then a rest of a month and then recommencing. Others will monitor regularly to check that the endometrium is achieving a thickness greater than about 10mm. This we know is enough to ensure healthy implantation can be achieved.
    Also given my age my risk of the clomid adversley affecting my endometrium are higher.

    For this reason I need to optimise my chances of conception each month on it. For me, I am not prepared to artificially stimulate my ovaries and then not know weather it's gonna work. My obs (bless her cotton socks) isn't either. She is a strong believer in close monitoring to ensure a good outcome. So the goal is to get pregnant in that 3 month period. I will have my prog level done 7 days after ovulation just to check that the progesterone is up around 50ish. I also have the added issue of my obs being away from the 22nd of Dec until the 22nd of Jan - so we have to know what the clomid is doing to my body so that I can monitor myself next month.

    So, I am not stressed - but by it's very nature this cycle needs to be tracked quite closely. As my obs said if that follie was still at 22 cms as it was on Friday we would be worried that that egg inside was a little over cooked! My obs has asked me to keep her posted about my opk's and if tomorrow isn't positive I have to go back on WEdnesday. However, we are both feeling pretty confident that it will have *hatched* by then!
    How are YOU going? What are you up to with your cycle? How have you been finding the clomid? I think of you often - it's good to *see* you in here...

    Willow I hope this period is your last for a long time...

    Emmydee
    : It is very accurate to say that clomid can make ovulation later in some women. I am a woman who on a natural cyle ovulates at around cd17-18. It seems that's what will happen for me this month but my first clomid cycle I ovulated on cd21. That is why we increased my doseage from 50mgs to 100mgs.

    KtGirl: I hope your bath does the trick...

    Mako:
    I don't mind being stalked. It's really nice to know you have been thinking of me... Thankyou my sweet...

    I hope everyone else is great. I will pop back later...

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    Yeah, those pens sound great. I had to use the syringe and needle when i was doing IVF....a lot more daunting, but still not painful or anything. But they bought the pen in just after I gave up on IVF. BW, the needles are so fine, they really don't hurt. The only time I felt one, was when DH must of hit a nerve, but that was only once out of many, many times I'd had them.

    Just lurking and seeing how you all are. I'm off for the dreaded u/s on Thursday to see if the pg is really a goer...no reason to suggest it isn't ok, but we just like to make sure. As I said in an earlier post, we take it one day at a time in our household as far as pregnancies go.

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    Hayseed - I will be sure to be thinking wonderful things for you on Thursday (and always!)

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    Ktgirl, glad injection is a piece of cake and hope all is going well and enjoy your hot bath...yeah, I hate Monday too...

    Willow, hope AF is treating you a bit better and no longer playing hide and seek...

    Butterfly, good luck with the appointment, I can imagine your excitment and come back to update us later

    As of me: Had my day 21 b/t, preogeston level is now 70 (comparing to 26 last month) so I guess that's an improvement, at least clomid is doing something. But I am a bit upset that no one told me that I should be bringing the Pregnyl injection today so that I can get it done while I had my b/t. It wasn't until I asked one of the nurse did they check with the Doc...anyway, that means I have to get up early again tomorrow and go to city wait for half an hour and get it done...sorry, I am venting...

    The nurse who called me later was really nice explaining that Pregnyl will create a friendly enviornment for Embryo to implant. But I don't understand, I ovulated on day 13, so it is 8dpo, wouldn't implantation has already happened? Has anyone had this injection done before? Do you think that they just want me feel better although this really should be done earlier in the cycle?

    I am sorry to being doubtful, but I guess I'd like to hear some advice / opions from your guys....

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    Hi Flowerchild, good to know that the scan went well. Your doc sounds really caring and working towards a goal, I wish mine is like that. :-(
    Hope your ovulation will be happening soon and this is your month!!

    The side effect of clomid is interesting to know, I think if this cycle is not working for me, I will try another cycle and go for IUI...

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    Bei Bei - Have you had a clomid cycle tracked? That will tell you if the clomid is having any adverse affects. Many women can take clomid for longer than a few months without issue - it's just that if you know what is happening in there you can be sure... That progesterone level is EXCELLENT!!! I will come back later. Thanks for thinking of me...

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    Flowerchild, thanks for asking. This is my first cycle on clomid, my doc did put me on monitoring, but it seems so far just b/t to track the hormones, they haven't ordered any scan for me...so I don't know if it is normal practice. I guess each clinic has their own way isn't it? I am pleased with the prog level, much better than before :-)

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    Deb- Praying for lots of conception vibes for you It sounds like you have one big follie there lets hope it is the one.

    BeiBei- Glad to see that your Progesterone levels increased. I have had a shot of Pregnyl before but that was to trigger O but as you said every Dr is different. I hope the rest of your TWW flies by.

    Hayseed- The pens are great. I don't know how I would go if I was having to use the normal syringe.

    Well the bath worked a treat. I am now super relaxed and ready for bed which is pretty sad since it is only 8pm. Oh well have a nice sleep girls I know I will!!!

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    I'm really glad the injections aren't that bad! Right now I'm hot, tired, headachy and just generally relieved that the hell of presentation night is over for another year. Hopefully I'll be sporting a nice pregnant belly for the next one! The gym may be air conditioned now, but it gets mighty hot with about a thousand bodies packed in... kids were dreadful! I've got a stiff neck (and hence the headache) from constantly having to turn around to tell them to stop talking!

    And another day draws to a close... which means I'm one more day closer to the FS appointment... and you won't keep me away before it or after it!

    BW

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    Just butting in to add my two cents about the pens. Yes they are amazingly easy. I too was amazed at how it didn't really hurt at all. Sometimes stings but hardly worth worrying about. I just wish they could get my levels right so I don't overproduce follies like I did the two last times, because they really are so easy to use.

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    Flowerchild I'm pleased everything went well and you have a lovely big follie. I hope this is the one for you hun.

    Hayseed I'm wishing you all the very best for your u/s on Thursday. Be sure to let us know how it goes chickie.

    Ktgirl I hope this is the month for every single one of us. Hope your having a better day today sweety.

    BeiBei Great news with your progesterone level. My dr only does blood tests while I'm on clomid too. I'm sure they all know what they are doing and remember that everyone's circumstances are different. Good luck and I hope you get a bfp soon.

    Hi to all you other fantastic ladies. Hope you are all well.

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    Please don't panic over weather you get your follies scanned!
    I was really just answering Debbie's post when she was thinking I was chasing my follie!

    I have a luteal phase defect - this is basically a hormonal imbalance and my body doesn't produce enough fsh to stimulate follicle growth and thus the lower progesterone level after ovulation which leads to a shortened luteal phase.

    This coupled with the fact that I am 39+ years old increases my risk of my endometrium not developing properly. My age also increases the chance of my endometrium responding badly after multiple cycles on serophene. Therefore the close monitoring. I am on meds also in an attempt to thwart another pregnancy loss. I am on steroidal drugs for this - so I need to know ovulation so I can test as early as possible for pregnancy so we can cease the steroids if I am not pregnant this cycle. So, you will see the reasons for my close monitoring are a few. Also the older you are the less *they* like to muck around with you.

    Many many women take clomid with just the cd21 test. Much depends on the specialist and how they like to do things.
    What we have seen from this cycle for me is that the fsh appears to be increased - a good thing! However, we need to wait for the cd21 to make sure that it has triggered the increase in progesterone for me...

    I would hate to have worried you two gorgeous women. How your doctors are prescribing and monitoring your clomid cycles is very usual. My circumstances (being older, luteal phase defect AND multiple pregnancy losses) make it a little more *under the microscope*!!!

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    On another note....

    I got a positive opk today!!!!!!! WOOO HOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!

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    YAYAY FLowerchild...

    Get to work girl!!!

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    Good news Deb. Go to it!!

    I never had any monitoring on Clomid. Not once. Nothing. I just waited to see if AF turned up at the end of the cycle or not. I used temping and OPKs myself to try and pinpiont O in order to BD, although we were on a BD schedule.

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    new thread time girls

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