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Thread: TTC & Taking Clomid &/or Metformin ~ November 2006

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    Deb - the cramping has settled again so I am a little more relieved. I haven't got your email - when did you send it??? I have just checked for the last few days but there is not one there


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    I think I missed out a letter in your address. I have just resent it.
    So happy that you are feeling a little better today.

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    Hello ladies

    Well this is my first post in this thread. I thought this would be a good place for me as I have just finished my first cycle on Metformin. Me and DH have been trying for number 2 for 2 and half years. We had 3 M/C's last year and I was diagnosed with PCOS a month ago. I also had a lap in September which revealed Endo around right ovary, fallopian tube and uterus. I have one more cycle on Metformin then my FS will start me on Clomid. I have met a couple of you ladies on another thread and look forward to getting to know a few more of you. Any advice on Metformin/Clomid would be fantastic and I hope I can be of some help to you aswell.

    Take care.

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    Michelle - keep your chin up! Thinking of you.

    Deb - "O"ing right about now!

    Best wishes to you all,
    Debbie

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    Thanks Debbie

    Deb - I got the email and sent one back too!!

    I just want to let you girls know how much I appreciate your ongoing love and support. This pregnancy is a *little* nerve wracking, especially with DH being away until Monday (away for my birthday too ) but knowing you are here makes it easier to manage. Thank you.

    Willow - I haven't seen you around lately. Are you OK??

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    Okay Debbie - so you get to that bedroom woman and GET JIGGY WITH IT!!!!!!

    I am imagining a nice healthy sperm meeting a gorgeous egg!!!

    Lots of love,
    Deb

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    Ok, I know you've all been waiting patiently for a long time... I've only just got home from my acupuncture appointment which was an hour later than normal... and boy did I need it!

    My prog. results are bad... 1.5 I feel sorry for my acupuncturist, as my specialist finally called me as I was walking up the street to the clinic. His phone call went along the lines of "I'm sorry, but you haven't ovulated, repeat the blood test next week if you haven't had a period, but you may want to start thinking IVF as you have a problem and your husband has a problem and the risk of miscarriage and chromosomal abnormalities increases as you get older so you don't want to waste time on this" Understandably, I walked in and collapsed in floods of tears.

    My acupuncturist is a lovely lady and managed to pick me up and put me back together and then did lots of calming, relaxing acupuncture points. Her theory is that the stress I've been under is extreme and would throw anyone out of balance and with PCOS, ovulation is very easily thrown off track anyway. I've heard of women responding to clomid, but still not actually ovulating without HCG trigger shots, so I want to find a better specialist who is actually going to do follicle scans and see if there's some sort of response before the even rather than waiting until CD24 before you know that the cycle was a complete failure. The other theory that my acupuncturist came up with is that because I've been so sick with the sinus/chest infection that my body may not have been able to keep up the right hormone levels post-ovulation.

    What ever the real reason behind things not working is, we'll never know... but I'm off to bother a few people with questions, look up names of specialists, compare IVF clinics yet again (although we are both determined to try everything else possible before full on IVF) and get myself prepared to go see my GP with a name for a referral next week. DH and I have decided that there's no point waiting until his varicocele repair is done before we join the queue and start waiting for an appointment, as I'm going to need a new specialist anyway.

    Long post, I know... but the one bright spot in my day was that my principal came to me after our second observation lesson and said "I don't need to talk to you at the end of the day, that lesson was perfect, I couldn't fault anything."

    BW

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    Wooo hoooo BW - at least the principal has sense!!!

    Yep - ovulation is such a finicky process that any number of the stresses you are facing could have impacted on you. Start the process to find other options (or at least higher levels of monitoring). I have a lovely gynae / OB who (I think - he was going to for me) will monitor the clomid and possibly manage the injectable types as well. He is Castle Hill way if that helps. He is lovely if nothing else and prepared to listen and refer when he is out of his depth. Email me if you want details. You could call to check if he does that type of management before seeing him too.

    Here's hoping you get the right management ASAP

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    Michelle, a specialist in Castle Hill would be fantastic! I'm not overly fussed if I can't find a specialist that can deal with the fertility problems and the birth, but it would certainly be nice to find one who can. There's no contact information in your profile, so I can't email you, I'd certainly be interested in getting a name that I can look into.

    BW

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    Hi girls.

    BW, so sorry to hear of your blood test results. I'm not really sure what else to say....certainly nothing will make it all better for you, but big hugs anyway.

    Deb, sorry it's taken me a while to reply to your question (see below for why). No, I'm not having any folli scans. Maybe because i don't live anywhere near my OB and the scanning equipment is not that great in our town. Also, before going on clomid, it was obvious I was Oing based on temps and OPKs. It's just been since being on clomid that the temps have not been clear for O date. But OPKs have worked ok.

    I am now CD 13 and we started BD fest last night. I have been on three different brands of the clomid drug - the first was clomihexal, the second was serephene and this time I was on clomid. This time, I have NO feelings whatsoever in my ovaries. The last 2 times, my ovaries felt like when I was on IVF and ready for pick up. Like they were full of eggs. But no feeling this time....strange.......

    I have been run off my feet for the past few days. We took cows to the show and we have done nothign else but wash them, clip them, move them around, bed them down, wash them again, brush them and then show them. Oh, and then get them home. But it was all worth it. We got 3rd in the calf class and 2nd in the senior 3 yo class and second int eh best udder section for the 3 yo class. This is especially good seeing as we have never shown cows before and we really just picked a cow out of the herd and decided that she would do. And the calf was a fluke. I am VERY pleased (and it has managed to take my mind off the dreaded TTC roundabout too, which has been a good thing).

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    Hi Girls.

    Yes Michelle, I am here and I am OK. Thanks for asking after me. I've been MIA for about a week for a lot of reasons - nothing really happening with me on the ttc front, had all my family here for my brother's wedding and we just went away for the weekend. Was awesome! We stayed in a cabin in Leura (Blue Mountains for those interstate) and it was just perfect. It was quite cool so we had the fireplace going and I had a good soak in the spa. A few glasses of wine and some fantastic food, browsing through the antique and craft shops etc etc and I was a very relaxed, happy girl! Was just what I needed. We got back late this afternoon.

    As for ttc, not much happening at all. I'm about 6dpo and have absolutely no thoughts of being prg. I just know I'm not, I feel it in my bones. I don't think i've felt this 'un-pregnant' the whole 6 months we've been ttc. I think that obviously something else is going on that clomid is not going to fix. My lap has been confirmed for 21 November so I am nervously awaiting the outcome of that to see where we go from here. I am fairly convinced it will be IVF. I don't know why, again, just a 'feeling' that I have. I am OK about that at the moment. 3 of my closest girlfriends have ivf babies so I am very familiar with the pros and cons and the process itself. I think I am probably more prepared than a lot of people are so that can only be a good thing.

    BW, sorry that clomid didn't do the trick this cycle. I have posted in your other thread.

    Deb, glad to see you are continuing to do OK. Your strength and determination are really to be admired.

    Debbie, keeping my fingers crossed for you this month!!

    Hayseed, I had been wondering where you'd gotten to. GL with the bd fest - hopefully this month will be the one.

    Pollyanna - we are having the same procedure only a few days apart. Hopefully we'll both have a great outcome and get some answers!

    Sorry for everyone else i've missed, I've had a lot to catch up on. Hope everyone else is doing well.

    ***ETA: Deb, you and I posted at the same time. Michelle, hope you had a great bday!! I will check in tomorrow to see how your appt went. Good luck sweetie!!
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    Butterfly: :hugs: I am sorry if I am asking you something I should already know - things have gone over my head a bit in the past couple of weeks. Did you get a positive opk? If not those results are indicitive of not ovulated but perhaps it could be as you are yet to ovulate? Trigger shots are needed by some women in order to ovulate you are absolutely right.
    I am sorry if I should have known the above - but just reminding you that my progesterone level at cd21 was less than 5! That was because I ovulated on cd21 and I conceived my darling Eggbert. So...

    Michelle - HAPPY BIRTHDAY for yesterday. I haven't been near my computer all weekend so I didn't realise your birthday has been and gone. I am sending you happy birthday vibes! Tomorrow is the obs day and I am going to be stalking this forum until I hear from you!!!! to you, I will be with you in spirit!

    Hayseed - yes of course if you are in the country it is not as easy. I am in the country but only 40mins to the coast where all the obs and the hospitals are. This makes things much more doable.
    Are you having a cd21 test? This will give you a good indicator if you ovulated or not. Remembering we ALL have annovulatory cycles even on clomid. I hope that you did ovulate this month and that this month is YOURS for good news.
    Debbie: Thinking of you... :hugs:

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    Deb, I didn't get a +ve OPK at all. I started doing them, then gave up in frustration and decided to just watch CM, not that there was much! I'm sure I had done them up to day 14, and my chart is still quite frustratingly showing ovulation on day 13... with my major anxiety freak-out over work stuff starting on day 13 as well. It was at that point in time, when I realised just how much extreme stress I was under that I figured I had no chance of ovulating at all, regardless of how much clomid I had taken. Although, getting that magic red line on my chart kinda got my hopes up. My prog. level was 1.5, so I can't really even think it was delayed ovulation at all. From day 14 onwards my CM switched from being minimal to being creamy and a lot more obvious - there was a definite point there that divided the two parts of the cycle... But I shall press on, I'll chat to a friend of mine and see what she thinks, then chat with my GP and get him to monitor another clomid cycle in the holidays while I'm waiting to get into a new specialist. The only thing I'm definite on so far is that the new specialist has to be a reproductive endocrinologist... but I feel like I'm making progress in sorting through the massive amounts of information that's out there.

    Feeling a little stressed and anxious at the moment... got home from church and found our internet connection had died! Came back two hours later, but in that time the panic of no BellyBelly, and not being able to check my work email really had me in a state. Concentrating on trying to remember to breathe properly now, and hoping I can get it under control before bed.

    I'll chat more with you lovely ladies tomorrow.

    BW

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    Hi ladies,

    Sorry I haven't been around much lately the last three weekends I have been away from home so I am looking forward to a weekend at home. You guys have been busy there was so much to catch up on.

    Lou- Welcome. I really hope this is your month and you get your BFP really soon.

    BW- Sorry to hear about the rough time you are having at the moment. I hope it all picks up and you find yourself a fab FS.

    Hayseed- Good luck keeping everything crossed that you get your BFP this month.

    Michelle- Happy belated B'day.

    Sorry to everyone else that I have missed.

    Well for me I am back on CD1 again I really thought last month was the one because since starting clomid I haven't had a LP longer than 12 days now last month it was 14. Not that I am comlpaining about having a normal LP but comparing to my usual cycle lenth I thought I was already 2 days late for AF. But no she showed her ugly head this morning. We start our 6th and last cycle of clomid tomorrow. If this one doesn't work then I think it will be IVF but we are going to take a break for a couple of months. I am trying to keep myself positive but this morning I am finding that a little bit hard. Thats all for me now but I hope everyone is feeling well today.
    Big hugs to you all.

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    Hello

    Ktgirl, I'm sorry to hear that the dreaded af has arrived. I hope she is kind to you this month. Keeping my fingers crossed that this will be your month for a bfp.

    BW, I'm sorry that the clomid didn't work for you this month but I have a friend who started on 50mg and no "O" then her specialist increased the dose and she did "O". Maybe you need to ask your new FS to increase your dose???? Anyway keep yor chin up and I'm sending you a great big

    Michelle, I hope you had a great birthday, sorry I missed it anyway

    Chicken, How are you?

    Hi to everyone else, Sending lots of to everyone. I think we need it.

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    Hi Butterfly,
    Sweetie, I just have a hunch that maybe the ovulation hasn't occured yet. If you didn't get a positive opk (or a prominent second line) then I would go with that more than the charting especially given your stressful time. Stress can, will and does delay ovulation. So, this could have happened. I am really happy that you are seeking out a FS. It is wonderful that you have got a recommendation from Michelle. I always feel personally recommended care providers are better than ones we pluck from the book. If you get your gp to fax the FS a letter requesting you be seen ASAP you will get in much sooner. ALL specialists have some appointments set aside for this purpose.

    If you are only on 50mgs of clomid you may need more - many women do! Clomid does alter CM in some women so this could have been a little of what happened to you. When you are using clomid it is not as helpful just to rely on CM signs for this reason. On clomid I had fertile mucous on cd12 and cd13 and got negative opk's. I knew I hadn't ovulated as I haqdn't had a positive opk and kept testing. My obs queried this so we did the cd21 test. It proved that I had not yet ovulated and on that very day I got my positive opk. I woulld give some thought to requesting a follicle scan and an increase in doseage for your next cycle.

    I am really feeling for you. This is a really tough time. Try to remember there are LOTS of tricks we can pull yet! Beginning with maybe an increase doseage, follie scans. I hope you slept okay last night... Big Big to you Butterfly...

    Michelle - I am right there with you today my friend...

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    I am stalking, stalking, stalking. Looking, looking, looking for Michelle.
    All my love and thoughts are with you today my Sweet :hugs:

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    I am patiently pacing, pacing, pacing.
    I am still right there will you Michelle... :hugs:

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