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thread: Symphysis Pubis Dysfunction (SPD) Chatter #1

  1. #73
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    oh wow, your poor DH & dog!!!!

    Is it sad that DH just brought the mail in and it's that cold, I'm considering using it as a cold pack? Just moved the wheat pack off my SP and my hips hurt, and have to wait for the pack to get cold again (or send my DH downstairs to the kitchen to the other freezer)

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    Hi ladies,

    Just wanted to offer an update on the SRC pregnancy shorts for anyone who is interested in them! I bought them last Wednesday and put them on immediately. Was in LOTS of pain, dragging my left leg around and dreading having to walk anywhere. Forked over the $$$ in desperation! Thursday morning got out of bed (the shorts are worn 24 hours a day) and noted a decrease in pain. Continued to improve until Saturday morning but figured maybe I was trying to convince myself to justify the purchase!! Took them off to wash them (recommended that they are washed every 3 days Have been wearing knickers and a pad under them!!). By Saturday night I couldn't get myself off the couch, had to have DH pull me up. Huge increase in pain... not happy!! Shorts back on and today I am reasonably comfortable.

    I am NOT pain free, I still have discomfort and pain when I sit or move in a particular way. But my pain is markedly less than what I experience without the shorts. Taking them off for the day has convinced me that they are making a big difference. If anyone else is considering the shorts I would happily recommend them.

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    Nickle - so glad to hear that the shorts were effective - ish - any reduction in the pain is welcome.. my pain has only gotten to the point over the past 2 weeks that it is almost unmanageable.. so instead of the preg shorts I was going to get the recovery shorts, so it was good to hear your feedback.

    It's been good to read about icing - I didn't think of that, although I did think of physio and osteo. Which is really dumb given I've had a lot of soft tissue injuries from sport and ice is the one thing that always brings relief. I am going to blame pregnesia.

    This is going to sound weird, but if the pain is across the pubic bone - that's where you ice right? And do you do 10 mins on and 10 off or what sort of combination.

    Hello Belfie - ( we are in the same Belly Buddies thread)......GL friday ... you're right only 2 sleeps to go. Yay!

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    Hi everyone!

    I'm 14 weeks along now, and its so strange, but still no pelvic pain? I get pains in my hips briefly when I get out of the couch if I've been sitting a long time, but that is it?

    I'm starting to think this is just a phantom pregnancy!!! No SPD?!!? What is going on...

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    Arimeh - don't diss the lack of pain!

    Hmmm shorts sound good. Where'd you get them again?

    My physio has also been pressing on the pubis at the front, and that's causing more pain that night, but reduced pain the next night.

    Going to accupuncture tonight, hope that helps.

    Icing - well I'm using wheat packs from the freezer, and actually just draping it across my hip to the pubis and leaving it there until it warms up too much.

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    Kazbah - that's some determined icing in this weather. How is your mobility during the day? Glad the physio has been helping.

    Arimeh - wow, fingers crossed your phantom pregnancy continues that way - phantom pain sounds way better than real pain!

    Dory - pregnesia here too, had forgotten you were copping this! Thank goodness there's not long to go hey. As for ice, I know my osteo & physio both said to try either heat or ice and see what helped most. Heat definitely sometimes did NOT work for me.

    Nickle - interesting to hear about the shorts, wish I'd thought to try them earlier, oh well.

    AFM, well bubba girl will be here in... TWO sleeps. Yup, two whole agonising don't turn over sleeps lol, so boy am I counting down! My c-s was gonna be at 39+3 but got moved to 38+5 and I'm much happier... I'm really pretty much over this. Have been on crutches to varying degrees over the last few weeks and can't seem to get this flare-up to settle, plus my already limited walking range (sans crutches on a good day) is pretty much miniscule now. I must admit I'm daydreaming about being able to walk places again... luckily my mum & dad are back in town (came back a bit early once I was worse again and DH's back got worse also), so that's made a huge difference having them around. And I have exercised my "get help wherever and however I can" muscle on numerous occasions.

    Amusingly (not sure if that's really the right word) even the darn dog is at the vet, and we've just been told she has a partial tear of the cruciate ligament. And to think I just thought she was copying me when she limped...

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    Oh wow, I didnt even know this thread existed. Over the last 2 weeks I have also been suffering groin and hip pain. The pain radiates down my inner thighs and walking is a nightmare. I already have 4 young kids and 26 preggers with my 5th, and being in the middle of the holidays if I dont get up and do the day to day housework im afraid things could get disasterous very quickly. But in doing this by the end of the day im nearly crying with pain and when i do get up from sitting its like my legs have absolutely no strength and sometimes I come very close to falling down because of this. Its hard because I cant rest because of my kids but even if I do find a moment the pain can still be present while sitting. Sleeping is a nightmare because I cant sleep on my belly anymore and if I lie on my back it feels as if my breathing is restricted so i can only lie on my sides - which is no good for the hips. i sleep with a pillow between my legs (but have since my first birth in 01 - Oh so comfy!!)
    I havent been to the docs yet so I dont know if it is SPD i have but i do have a midwifes appointment next friday so will discuss this with her then. I dont understand it though because I have fab pelvic floor muscles (4 kids later and can still jump without going "oh dear") played basketball and netball up until 20 weeks pregnant, and lead an active life. (Im a nurse so am on my feet all day at work). I dont know maybe I dont understand this SPD properly. I guess i thought it happened to those who werent active and who already had weak pelvic floor muscles and stuff. Hmm my bad!! Anyways its great to know so many other women have felt what i feel now. It certainly does make things easier knowing im not alone out there

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    Leekee - I think the best indicator of SPD is whether or not you can stand on one leg. I couldn't do that at all when I had SPD throughout my pregnancies. I'd recommend going to a physio, most midwives don't really understand what SPD is, and how to treat it, so your best bet is a physio, chiro, osteo etc.

    AFM - well just over 16 weeks now, and still no pelvic pain. I'm sure it will kick in eventually but I'm counting down the weeks for me to be in pain, and its great that it started off at 38 weeks (cos pregnancy starts at 4 obviously and I usually go to 42) so I was prepared to go through 38 weeks of pure pain and misery to get a gorgeous bub, and now its only 26 weeks of possible pure pain and misery - way to go pelvis!! I had my chiro appointment last wednesday and she is AMAZED that my pelvis is holding up as well as it is... so must of been the treatment I had between pregnancies, and throughout this one so far - its kept it at bay (yippee!)

    So I think my next chiro appointment is next friday - so lets keep hoping that my pelvis keeps holding!

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    leekee - Glad you found the thread It's the relaxin that is so efficient at allowing our pelvis to spread that causes this. If you've good pelvic floor, that's brillo! My physio also has me on all fours on the floor and pulling my belly up to strengthen the core. Then lifting diagonal arm&leg. To sleep, panadol or panadiene work well And ice, ice, ice. I'm using a wheat pack I keep in the freezer for a more gentle cold. Also google the pelvic instability organisation from victoria. You should be able to pop into the physio dept at your hospital that you work and get some brochures from them.

    A - yay on the no pain yet! that's just brillo!!! hopefully it stays away this time!!!

    AFM - well saw my physio yesterday, nothing more she reckons she can do for me but to see her in another 4 weeks when we know where the placenta is, and where I'll be having the bub. Have been having accupuncture and that's just wonderful! I haven't even had to wear the belt to keep it all together!!! So worth it! Felt the bub move down further into my pelvis, and that was a bit uncomfortable

    Not sure if you read Belfie's b/f journey story, but she was walking just fine within a couple of days of giving birth - YAY!!! You know what did help, I went into the Nappy Lady today with DH and she was describing everything I've got - the pelvic instability, the heartburn. I felt like it validated everything I've been feeling to DH. And she just started out with it, I didn't say anything other than "it's not as easy a pregnancy as I had the first time".

    to all

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    ladies.

    not really sure if i have SPD as never had this kind of pain when preg with DD, but after reading through some of the posts on here, especially Arimeh's one about being able to stand on one leg, i *think* this is what i *may* have. i have pain that radiates through my pubic bone and left hip/groin area which is worse after lying down or sitting on my side for a long time. in the mornings when i get up, i have to get up with my legs closed together as the pain of swinging one leg out is excruitating - this pain only started a couple of weeks ago

    So for any ladies who live (or know of) a good pregnancy (or SPD) specialist physio in Melbournes Outer Sth East (Narre Warren, Berwick, Endeavour Hills etc) i would be most grateful if you could advise me of who you see.

    TIA

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    Tia

    Sorry about your pain... mine mostly went away when baby was born... but for you that's a while off. I have heard some great things about the SRC pregnancy pants for helping with SPD. I only developed SPD at the end of my pregnancy, so never got them. But I did get the recovery shorts which have been AWESOME post caesar. They have helped support me and I am much more active with less pain and better posture than other women I've seen post caesar.

    Good luck.

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    Oh boy! I really feel for you women suffering such bad pain. I spoke to my midwife about my pelvis pain and she said it's SPD... but fortunately it seems mild compared to most here. I find too much walking makes me sore and I have to keep my legs together- get dressed sitting down, not squatting etc. I went swimming this week and it was bliss!!

    My midwife gave me a rec for a good pregnancy chiro so I have an appointment in a couple of weeks. She said to ask him about getting a belly band/belt thingo too. Anyone else using a belt (not shorts) and can recommend types? I feel confused about the different names she said now.

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    meow - swimming is just the best! Glad to hear your pain isn't too bad. Re support belts, I just bought one through my physio but tbh i just didn't find it that great.... and then towards the end I misplaced it just when I probably most needed it. I also wore tubigrip for a little while too, which helped a bit. Had I realised earlier, I think I would have bought those support shorts that Dory mentioned.

    Negrita - I saw a couple of physios up in Ringwood, so not really convenient for you sorry.

    Kazbah - I'm so glad to hear things are manageable for you! Woo hoo for good acupuncture & physio!

    Leekee - GL getting some resolution to your pain. Re the type of women who get SPD... lol well I used to do triathlons... so hardly in the couch-potato camp! So saying, I did sustain some pelvic floor nerve damage with my DS, which was thought to be not helping with the SPD this time... so I'm guess there is a role there with PFM's for sure.

    AFM, as Kazbah said, Fri 17th I hobbled into hossie on my crutches. Had my c-s that arvo (btw, c-s NOT due to the SPD). Next morning I got up and could walk just fine. NO PAIN! It was sensationally amazingly marvelously wonderful. My c-s recovery was great, had sent the crutches home within a day or two. All the mat ward staff couldn't believe how well I was walking - and like Dory, seeing other women post c-s, I think I was actually moving better than all of them. I could lie on my back without my SIJ's stabbing me mercilessly and I must admit that the c-s discomfort seemed pretty trivial. A few days later (maybe as they reduced the pain meds) I did get a twinge or two, so pulled back a little and was more careful (I was pretty excited at being able to walk so well!). Since then I've managed to walk around the block (WOW!) and am slowly working my way up to doing more. Everyone had warned me that the recovery would probably not be instantaneous, so it was a pleasant surprise - and I hope everyone else gets the same result.

    My physio had also suggested I buy a pair of cheap support shorts (you know, the flatten your tummy underwear) from Kmart/Target, and I've found those good to wear post bubba. Wouldn't have been able to wear them pre-bubba tho!

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    All I seems I do these days is complain. Its driving me batty!! I have finally been diagnosed with Pelvic Instability (which I already knew) yet am getting no help from anywhere. I have been referred to the Physio at Flinders but there is a waiting list of 131 people. I was kindly told today that my condition doesnt stand up to the range of conditions at the womens health Physio, so I would be lucky to see anyone before the baby is born. WHAT??? I still have 11 weeks with no light at the end of the tunnel. Alright, well Flinders have tried suggesting calling Noarlunga Physio and getting in there. Oh really?? Let me tell you - they told me that once they got the referral faxed through that I would be triaged, and if Flinders werent confident they would see me chances are neither will Noarlunga. ARE YOU SERIOUS???
    Sigh, you know theres only 2 thing I want. Maybe Im asking too much, I dont know but to be able to do a little bit of work (I didnt do my nursing degree to sit on a couch all day....) and to have only 5 minutes... yes 5 minutes pain free. Ive been exercising gently, sleeping with a pillow between the legs - but always have since my first born in 2001, icing icing icing, rest rest rest, panadol before bed to take the edge off the pain. Im beggining to feel like a big fat whale - even the Japs would take shots at me on the street if they saw me (yea probably a bad joke - sorry if it offends).
    But you know what - Im not sure whats worse. Everything Ive said above, or the emotional toll its taking on me and my body because I cant play with my 4 kids, or take them places we all like to go. Or even spending quality bedroom time with hubby because the thought of the pain makes me shudder.
    I dont know. Im supposed to be enjoying this pregnancy, as it is definitely my last, but I feel I cant. I worry that this may cause bonding issues with bub after he is born (yes its a boy - god knows we need it to even out these estrogen levels flying around the place with all these girls).
    I think however after all thats been said, what kills me the most is the lack of sleep. I spend hours trying to get comfortable, and finally when I do fall asleep am either woken by the urgent need for the loo for a couple of drips (grrr the bladder wasnt put in a very good spot for women and pregnancy) or because I have to roll over because the hips are aching to buggery. Im living on 3 - 4 hours sleep a night. I feel if I could just get a decent nights sleep the everything else will be dealable.
    See all complaints I so desperately want to enjoy my last moments of being pregnant but am having big issues knowing I still have another 11 weeks to live through this pain.

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    Hi all- I'm nearly 12 weeks PP and the SPD is still there but a whole lot better. I almost have my normal stride back. It's very frustrating not being able to go for run yet, but I hope I'll get here soon. At least I can now do Pilates again.

    Anyway, as there are newer people coming in with SPD, I thought I'd repost a list of things I found helpful (plus add some more).

    I had SPD since week 21 and have had loads of different therapies, including osteopathy (focusing on spinal alignment), Physiotherapy (focusing on correct posture and positioning - this also include 'internal' pressure which was a very interesting experience but helped. I went to a pelvic floor specialist) and acupuncture. I did exercises my physio gave me and clinical pilates (though I stopped this about 30 weeks as it hurt too much afterwards). I used crutches from about 28 weeks to help me walk (otherwise I could only step about 1-2 inches at a time).

    The best thing was hydrotherapy - it is bliss - 40 minutes with no pain. I did it with a physio.

    A few tips:

    1. Use ice! Use it more than you think you need to. It really helps. Have multiple icepacks ready to go.
    2. Keep your knees together. This helps keep your pelvis in alignment. You don't want one hip higher than the other.
    3. Try to go without side steps - it separates the pubis further and just kills.
    4. When getting into bed (or onto a couch or massage table), crawl on with your hands and knees. DO NOT sit and swing your legs over - it puts too much pressure on the pubis. Use a small step if you need too.
    5. When changing from lying down on one side to the other, roll UNDER, not OVER. This means going from side lying to propping yourself onto your hands and knees, then swapping to the other side. When doing that, engage your pelvic floor and keep your knees together.
    6. Keep a pillow between you knees in bed to help keep your hips aligned.
    7. When getting out of bed, start lying on your side facing the edge, lift yourself up with your hands, keeping your knees together, then lift your legs off. I used a large peiece of silk under me when sleeping to help me slide on and off the bed.
    8. When getting up from a chair or bed or whatever, 1st engage your pelvic floor. Keep your knees together (as close as you can). Tilt your pelvis BACKWARDS and lean your chest forward, then lift with your knees. If you have to lean on a wall to do so, then go for it.
    9. Put/take off undies, pants, socks etc on whilst sitting down. Don't balance on one leg.
    10. When getting in and out of a car, do it like royalty. So getting in, go in bottom first, then swing your legs together into the car. When getting out, swing both legs together out of the door, then gently lift yourself out. I use a swivle cushion from a health care shop that helps with just this.
    11. Drive an automatic car if you have the option - manual hurts too much
    12. For exercises, sit on a fitball or chair and engage you pelvic floor. Tilt your pelvis back and forward about 8 times. Do this this 4 times a day. Do pelvic floor exercises a number of times a day, making sure you release completely at the end of them. Do not move without engaging the pelvic floor.
    13. I also used the SRC pregnancy shorts which helped with support. They're pretty exxy. I found a belly support belt just made things worse, don't know why. It really hurt my lower abs. I now wear the SRC recovery shorts.
    14. Take panadeine a couple of times a day if you need to.
    15. Clean up spilt liquids on the floor as soon as you can. Having one foot slide out from under you as you're walking KILLS.
    16. If you need to take teeny tiny steps to get from A to B, do so. Yes, it's frustrating for you and other people but at least it hurts less.
    17. Realise there is an end date to all of this. If you look after yourself (and others look after you) you should recover faster.
    18. If anyone makes smart arsed comments about it, give them a whack upside the head, a death stare or a ferocious talking to. Their lack of compassion is the last thing you need. Alternatively you could be calm about it but that might not feel as good. I used to describe it thus:

    "Imagine someone's take a great big baseball bat and slammed it between your legs, then clamped your hips in a vice whilst beating you around the lower back with a 2 by 4. That's what it feels like ALL THE TIME."
    For birth, I read on all fours or side lying are the best positions. You don't want bub coming down towards the pubic bone - apparently this happens with squatting as well - so lying on your back or reclined sitting is the worse. Also to be avoided - forceps, people holding your legs open, caesar and anything that could cause more damage.

    Apparently it's a good tip to tie some ribbon around your knees which shows the maximum you can spread your legs without pain.... this is all good in theory, but as my midwife said, we'll try to avoid damaging the pubis further, but if there's no other way to get bub out, then sacrifices will be made.

    I ended up in reclined with a midwife each side holding my legs up so they weren't too far apart. The stirrups were too far apart for me. We practiced this position before we got to pushing so we knew how far apart my legs would go comfortably (like pushing was a comfortable experience ).I didn't need the crutches after birth.

    Anyway, I hope this all helps someone.
    Last edited by LionsandBears; October 15th, 2010 at 02:14 PM.

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    Leekee - you poor thing I remember having to have panadol before bed just so I could have 2 hours relatively pain free of sleep before the pain started up again and I would have to turn over every 20 minutes - like a pig on a spit or something.. rotate.. rotate.. rotate.. arghhh... is there somewhere else you can go for treatment? My physio didn't help keep the pain away, but my chiro has.

    So here I am, 18 and a half weeks (basically) and STILL no pain. My chiro and I are just in utter amazement considering I had pain from 4 weeks with DD2.

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    Sorry you are feeling so crappy Leekee! I hope you find some relief and are able to get in to see a physio. Can you see someone privately?

    Update on the SRC shorts... I LOVE them. I still have some discomfort, definitely not pain-free, but I am up and walking and that's more than I can say for my previous two pg's! When I take the shorts off to wash them I have a marked increase in pain by the time they are dry and ready to put back on. Put the shorts on... relief within an hour or two. They were expensive, but I absolutely recommend them! (Thinking I need to get a job in their marketing department...!!)

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    Has anyone used acupuncture or anything before a subsequent pregnancy to prevent SPD coming back in the next pregnancy? We're going to TTC a lot sooner than originally planned, so won't have a lot of "healing" time between pregnancies. It may be the relaxin hasn't left my body before the next one starts and so I expect SPD to come back earlier and harder.

    My acupuncturist had suggested seeing her for a few months before getting pregnant again. WDYT?

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