Is this what i think it is? *warning TMI*

**Papillon** · February 6th, 2009, 11:22 AM

On tuesday this week i got a faint + on a test, it was faint but i could see it.

My AF was due on wednesday.

I started cramping, but it was very very mild from monday which continued until well, now...

I started spotting yesterday afternoon.. and then this morning the bleeding has gotten VERY heavy.

I went to the loo before and well, i nearly fainted after i had wiped .. on the toilet paper were 2 huge big 'blobs' (for the want of a better word)... they were about 3cm's long and 2 cm's wide... (they scared the S out of me).

They were like liver/kidney bits but darker and more soft...

Being I still have sore throbbing boobs, and nausea (which i never have while AF is here), and mixed with being one day late, faint + on tuesday, would i be right to assume this is an early loss????

I am not surprised as i O'd 4 days before we DTD which would of resulted in this pregnancy... so the egg would of been well and truly too tired to have taken!

What do you think?

I have never passed anything like this in my life so... and being i dont normally get cramps BEFORE af, and i never have sore boobs or nausea DURING AF.. nor have it this heavy..... its all i can think is going on!

Id love your thoughts/experiences.. and i by no mean wish to insult or upset anyone... i hope i have come across in the way i intended which is to just get some help/advice

**~Trish~** · February 6th, 2009, 11:26 AM

It could be an early loss, it's hard to know for sure. I had a similar thing happen to me in August, I got a BFP and then two days later started to bleed, unfortunately it turned out to be a chemical pregnancy.

Maybe go to your GP and request a BT? That's what I did just so I knew for sure.

I hope everything is all OK.

**Papillon** · February 6th, 2009, 11:30 AM

whats the difference between a chemical pregnancy and an early loss?

Just made an appt with the dr. your right, i should of done that first before consulting BB *shakes head* will see what she says.

**~Trish~** · February 6th, 2009, 11:31 AM

It's pretty much the same thing. I hate the term chemical pregnancy actually, sorry I used it!

**briggsy's girl** · February 6th, 2009, 11:35 AM

whats the difference between a chemical pregnancy and an early loss?

until a heartbeat is detectable (around 5.5 weeks at the earliest) it is considered a chemical pregnancy rather than a miscarriage. it is still an early loss - its just the way the medico's classify it as the embryo hasn't developed any organs or anything....

FWIW - it sounds like a chemical pg - it's up to you whether you attend the GP for BT"s or not. everyone is going to be different on this one. for me, i KNEW each time when i was pg - jsut from body changes etc - and the bleeding was always much different. if you were pg, there is nothing they can do at all - just be prepared that your cycle may be out of whack for a while

Hugs

BG

**RhiChiChi** · February 6th, 2009, 11:40 AM

Hi Missy Moo Moo,

Sorry that you are going through this at the moment.
I would, as the other ladies have suggested to go to your GP, who should sent you for a HTG blood test. This will determine that you are/were pg. They may suggest an ultrasound and then another HTG blood test to see what is happening with your level (will increase if still pg, will decrease if a loss)
Take care. I hope all is ok.

**Papillon** · February 6th, 2009, 11:43 AM

Thats the thing BG, i felt PG. And looking at the huge blobs on the paper, i just felt it. I felt that i was looking at what could of been #3. Dramatic i know, but thats just what i felt.

And this bleeding IS very different. It is bright red, which when my AF comes it never is bright red. It is always so dark, like dead blood which by all means is what an AF is...

So, i almost dont think i want a BT to conrim a pregnancy i wont have

ETA: off to the dr now, they could squeeze me in.

**Jakabella** · February 6th, 2009, 11:45 AM

Missy,
*HUGS*
Thats how my m/c was. I was about 6 weeks and then I got dark blood and then heavy red blood with clots - but I had very very bad cramps - so much so that I was doubled over in pain.
I also had lots of bleeding in this preg and now Bella is 8 weeks old. I would go to your doctor and see if they can shed some light.
HTH
Kate

**~Trish~** · February 6th, 2009, 11:47 AM

I'm glad you got into your Dr, hopefully you will know your answer either way.

I requested a BT with mine as I'd had a suspected ectopic pregnancy in the past and I just wanted to rule it out.

Take care.

**Papillon** · February 6th, 2009, 12:27 PM

Dr said she believe i am/was pregnant.. she sent me for a quantitive test and said she just wants to confirm it is miscarryin itself. She said if the levels come back higher than she thinks they should she will send me for an ultrasoound to see what is happening.

I said do you think this is just something else? she said nope. this is a very very unusal bleed, and only says to her pregnancy, or the end of.

I walked out of the clinic got in my car and burst into tears! Why? why the hell am i crying for a baby yesterday i was happy i didnt have? ( obviously because deep down i want to be pregnant, i just wanted to loose my wieght and get the psoriasis under control before i did have #3..... but to know this has guttered me.

She told me to stop the pill (i took my first one last night as i thought it was just af starting), as she said just incase it isnt a loss...

But with how much and how bright red the blood is. I have never seen such bright red blood before *scratchs head*

THANKS SO MUCH FOR REPLYING TO ME GUYS... this is seriously hard for me. i guess you proberly think im silly, seeing as i stopped trying and wanted to wait. argh. im gonna go. im being silly

**~Trish~** · February 6th, 2009, 12:34 PM

No you're not being silly at all. I cried too when I had an early loss in August. We start thinking about this little life who belongs to us, we start to think about what the future will be like with them, and then it is snatched away from us. It's truly devestating

.

Although I'm sure you are probably feeling like you are expecting the worst, I really hope that everything turns out alright

.

**Papillon** · February 6th, 2009, 12:55 PM

why are my BB's still throbbing??? why do i still feel nauseas????

I dont get if i am loosing this baby why i still have these symptoms?????

i just dont understand all this. i keep seeing the blob from this morning in my head guys... and i start crying. i feel like throwing up!

**Ahurani** · February 6th, 2009, 01:04 PM

Because there is still the hormones in your body Bec *hugs*

DoubleK · February 6th, 2009, 01:09 PM

im sorry to hear what you're going through hun. i cried too when i lost my bub, i didnt know i was pg untill i lost it

i hink i was crying for what could have been...

i passed the 'product' in the waiting room toilets.. as much as i didnt want to look, i felt i had to, and ill never forget it

to think that could have been a healthy baby breaks my heart.

i was told to expect flu-like symptoms after my miscarriage... i cant remember exactly what i felt, but i recall feeling overall pretty cruddy for a week or so.

big hugs hun, its a very emotional confusing time.

**Bumperstump Cummerbund** · February 6th, 2009, 01:13 PM

Missy

It's the unfairest thing in this world that a mother should still feel pregnant when her baby has flown away. It doesn't make any difference whether or not you were trying, what matters are your feelings NOW - don't keep discounting them by saying you're being 'silly' because you're being very normal!

For what its worth Missy, IMO it's better to know, because then you can grieve. It's not always possible to know when someone has an early loss, but I like to think of it as a blessing when you do know, because now your baby will never be forgotten.

**rufalina** · February 6th, 2009, 01:16 PM

thinking of you. It is not a fun thing to go through...

**Papillon** · February 6th, 2009, 02:55 PM

Thank you to all of you.

I am feeling so

Even worse now as someone i thought was a friend was just very insensitive about it.. /crys. I have sat and listened to her through a few cycles now and this is what i get back when i need my friends right now

made me feel like maybe im being silly.. but then part of me says no, no your not.

*crys*

Everything today seems to be just horrible... i just wanna go to bed!

Whats worse is tomorrow i have to pull myself together, as i have a wedding to do.

in 43 degree heat.... i am just so guttered!

Im sorry if i am being sefish.