I am DEFINITELY of the opinion that TTing is a summertime activity. Warm enough to play outside and it not be terrible if a kid is wet for 10 mins or has no pants on for a bit and plenty of time for nappy/pants off time to feel what is going on.

I've never had to TT though, so what do i know!? LOL.

My mother imparted the following wisdom on the subject:
a) don't get into stresses about what goes into or comes out of a child. Eventually they will eat what you offer them and poop and wee where they're supposed to, and
b) it's easier with the later ones.

Her theory was that TTing the 1st kid is hard because although you have the time and energy, you've not the experience or the past successes. She TTed all of us by never shutting the bathroom door when she was in there (to the point that i refused to use a potty because i KNEW no-one pooped in a pot on the livingroom floor) and by creating a culture of grown-upness with the older ones, which the younger ones are, inevitably, DESPERATE to join. This translated into little treats for my brother (extra one on one with one of my parents, trips to places where "nappy-kids can't go" - certain parks or museums) which i couldn't join in on until i was a big kid. Basically she hit the pause button in other areas until i mastered it - in the same whay that i didn't take Smee to play on the grass in the park until she could walk i guess, (though obviously that was more a safety thing) my mum wouldn't take me to the special west park museum (which turned out to be one room with a stuffed panda gone white with age, a mummified hand, and a few roman ewars in it - lol) because you could only go if you were a big kid and big kids wore pants (or ate their dinner, whatever it was that week). The magic of this was that it was always out of the house (while stayed in it with the other parent) so even if they had a rotten time, i wasn't there to see it, the impression i got was that it was all very mysterious and wonderful...so alluring! LOL. I'm not sure if it's a way that'd work for everyone but i'm raising smee like i was, so quite strictly but also "with responsibilities come rights" so if you do x, you get to do y. So maybe you could try praising Evan's efforts (and explain to him why if he thinks mum's suddenly gone mad and thinks HE'S just learning) so Glenn overhears, and even throwing in the odd special-trip-out treat for him so Glenn sees that it would benefit him to TT...?

On thing i did wonder though FJ, you say he hates cloth...is that because of the bulk or because they feel more revolting when wet than either sposies or pants? If it's the latter i'd "forget" to buy sposies and tell him it's cloth only. He'll hate it. What a great motivation!

bx