yep, fair point Astrid... and it's interesting to note that she has been quiet lately (since having a child) ... hehe probably lost in the mists of disillusionment... "it was meant to be so straightforward this baby-making business"... oh well... she can come back to BB for support... we'll try not to say "we told you so"!... true help doesn't always lie in telling somebody what to do... more in saying that they don't have to be perfect or do it another person's way! And maybe the best type of support is lending a compassionate ear! Tizzy and Gina just never seemed to "get" that... although I would celebrate it if they did