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    Do you have pets?



    Any stories of how they have reacted to your pregnancy?

    Any ideas on how to make sure that pets and new babies get along?

    Any pet related issues or questions: this is the place to chat about it!

    Old thread can be found here

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    Hey all,

    I have two indoor cats, one is a very aware smart cat that's more like a little person than a cat while the other is a rather oblivious crazy bimbo lol.

    The smart one will not leave me alone, he follows me everywhere and won't shut up, he cries when I leave and cries when I come back. He keeps licking and laying on my tummy (not appreciated when nauseaous) and becomes so distressed if I'm not there. I left them at my parents for a week while we moved house and by the end of the week he was panting and viciously attacked my parents until I went to pick them up then was all over me like a rash.

    He was always affectionate but never so persistant and over protective. Do you think it's just a coincidence or he can sense/smell I'm preg? The other one doesn't seem too different except she is sleeping with me more and is more sookie than usual and seems to be attacking the boy more.

    They both won't leave my stomach alone and keep trying to smell my armpits and womanly bits which is, well, a bit invasive, annoying and scares the crud out of me at 2am in the morning, I don't think I smell any different but then again cats sense of smell is amazing to ours..

    Any views? Do you think they know? Or is it just the move that's done it?

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    I would love to get her a friend, but DH won't let me! that is why we are building the cat run.

    She is always in my bed to and the thought of leaving her our (sad as this sounds) makes me sad! I just keep thinking I am being cruel to her if I shut the door.

    I wasn't going to have Jellybean in our room as the nursery is not too far away but I know once he/she comes I will want to have them near me. The cat will just have to get used to it.

    As for cats being aware if you are pg - mine hasn't but my friend said that she thought hers could tell! It wouldn't surprise me though, they are pretty smart!

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    My cat definitely knows I am pregnant! I posted about it recently, as I couldn't be sure that I wasn't making it up. Have since found that it regularly happens with cats- possibly due to the smell. Haven't had your luck (?) with the armpit sniffing, though CelticMoon!!

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    CelticMoon - one of my cats has started armpit licking, and that is waaay gross.

    Good luck with the cats

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    Haha I know its a bit of a rude shock when u get an icycold little nose shoved into your armpit in the early hours of the morning. ROFL Kazbah haven't had that one yet thankfully lol it's a little too close for comfort isn't it? lol

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    I got a pair of indoor cat before. I raised them since they were 2 months old. Now they are already 3 years ++. They are very playful and pampered. Well, once I got pregnant and I was bleeding. Doctor says I should bed rest and take a medical leaves. My hubby always working out stationed. So nobody will look after and play with them like before. I just caged them and when my hubby around he's the one who gave them food n drinks as well as clean up their poo poo. It was a sad moment for me to let them go as I cant stand to see them caged and mewing all the time. Now me and hubby gave them to my friend who take a good care of them till now. It was awful feeling to let go something u really love and care..

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    Suzyaaron - I know what you mean, my boys are outside living in a different room to us. But not long now until we can have them back with us every night and day, and I can care for them as I want to *hugs*

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    HI! I have taken the advise from the last thread and have bought a gentle leader headcollar. I have had enough of my girl pulling me and she is not getting it through her head. When I walk her really close to my leg, she is OK, but my hand gets so sore from holding the lead so much!! Lets hope that this helps because I really want to be able to walk my dogs and bubs during the day while DP is at work..

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    HELP! Okay, I really need a hand here..........

    We have a staffy ***** who is almost three. Emma is a beautiful dog, I did lots of training with her when she was young, and for the most part she is very good (and most people agree with that LOL!). She is used to young children staying with us, and is very good with them all, but I'm aware that that is definitely not the same as us brining our baby into our home.

    She is very much a 'family pet', an inside dog, although she is always outside when we are out, and I do make her spend some time out there when I am home during the day.

    She is definitely toilet trained. We don't have a doggie door (yet) but she always barks if she needs to go outside, no matter what the time, and can hold on and hold on until someone (DH!) wakes up and comes to let her out. Occasionally, if he's not woken up, she will come into the bedroom and lick him to wake him up.

    We have a tiled area where the back door is, and the two times in two years she has gone inside since being TT it has been on there, she definitely knows that is the best spot rather than the carpet.

    Three times in the last week we have woken up to find that she's weed inside. Twice on the rug in the back room, and last night on the carpet a bit further away. We have been very tired, but I find it hard to believe that one of us wouldn't have woken up to her barking.

    I am mindful of the fact that she might have a UTI, or something like that, but it has been spread out over a week, not on continuous days.

    I really don't know what to do with her. I am feeling like she's becoming aware that something is changing around here and that's why she's doing it, but I'm not sure. I don't want to yell and scream at her if that's being counter-productive. She KNOWS what she's done is wrong, she won't go near it when we get up, which is our first cue!

    PLEASE if anyone has any advice, I would love it. I am happy to do whatever it takes to stop this little rountine, and keep my puppy happy!

    Sorry for the long post

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    Sezjm -

    Have you started changing her routine yet in anticipation of the baby? I stopped my dog sleeping on the bed, and now he climbs onto the sofa (Grrr) and gets kicked off there every morning.

    One thing that may work (not sure if you already do this) is teaching her to wee on command - and then just before bed making her "go". The easiest way to do this is just to start saying a word or making a sound when she goes naturally (we say "WIDDLE WIDDLE WIDDLE! in a high-pitched voice) and then when she finishes her widdle we praise her - regardless. Get into the routine for her of widdles before bedtime.

    For our pup (now 20months) we found that letting her inside for a while will settle her, then we go outside specifically to widdle, then straight to bed. This works wonders - no accidents since.

    Otherwise, start changing the routine now - if baby's going to be sleeping with you, then do you want Emma sleeping with you too? Set up her bed in the laundry or wherever now, so she doesn't associate the change with the baby.

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    I agree with kazbah on the taking them outside before bed and encouraging her to wee, I do it with my two. and It seems to work but I think sometimes dogs have accidents too
    I also think that a lot of the time dogs pick up on your hormones and she can probably sense something big is happening and is not really sure how to deal with it so her normal behaviour is changing. My mum is a dog behaviour specialist and I know she would say to try and stick to your routine, maybe with a bit of extra mum/emma time and try to make her feel comfortable about the changes. And when you clean up her accidents, always put her outside first not as a punishment but just so she doesn't see you clean it up. Dogs associate that with directly making you do something and you don't want to turn it into an attention seeking behaviour. If you are starting to set up the nursery maybe that is what set her off. I would take her to where the new furniture etc is and feed her some treats and praise her so that she sees it all as a positive experience!
    I know ive babbled a little bit but you sound like you really want to do the best thing for your dog!
    I guess the best advice is lots of love and praise and Im sure she will be ok and your carpet won't suffer any more
    Good luck
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    Oooh, and I just remembered - there's a product on the market called "Urine Off". It's in a black container (spray bottle) and available from vets. It's about $20 for a bottle, but it is seriously the *best* thing for getting rid of the smell. It's enzymes so destroys the smell - I seriously recommend it

    Great advice nay23 - I might do that when we finally have a nursery set up.

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    Thanks Kaz and Nay

    Ever since we've had her we've had the routine of putting her outside just before going to bed. I tell her to go 'on the grass' and she understands what this means. Most of the time she just wees straight away, occasionally she looks at me like 'I just went!' and won't do anything. I usually then give her a few minutes and if nothing happens we just go to bed.

    She has slept in our bed from very early on (thanks DH!) but we stopped that months ago. I bought her a basket and put it in the lounge room to get her used to it as a 'good thing' to be used during the day, and then moved it into the bedroom. She has never had any dramas sleeping in it, but occasionally we wake up to find her on the bed! I know the next step is to move her out of the bedroom, but it's so hard! I think I will probably start that in two weeks when I've finished work, in case she drives us nuts. Mind you, I thought that would happen when we put her in the basket, but it wasn't a drama at all! She just knew what she was meant to do.

    We got a new lounge suite a couple of months ago, and she's not allowed on that, so no more jumping on the couch. I'm trying to get her used to being outside when someone is home so she doesn't bark if I put her out there when home with the bub. Don't get me wrong, I have no intentions of turning into an outside dog because we're having a baby. She is not the sort of dog you can do that to (she sleeps about 23 hours a day anyway!), we wouldn't have got her if that's what we wanted! We wanted a family dog, and we've got one. But I'm also aware that there may be times when I just need her to be outside.

    Last night seems to have been a success, I made sure she weed before we went to bed, and then she was up twice during the night to go out. That's really not her normal routine, but at least she got us up to let her out And I really praised her each time she did it. I guess my main concern is how we handle it. I don't want to tell her off if that's not the right way to go about it, but I don't want it to become a habit either IYKWIM?

    Nay, I get what you mean about it becoming an attention seeking exercise, so maybe if it keeps happening we'll just play it really low key and see how we go? I know that sometimes dogs have accidents, but my gut feeling on this one is that she's really picking up on the changes going on around here, even though I can't think of anything that might have triggered it in the last week. Like you said, it's probably just my hormones! It's starting to feel quite real to us now, so maybe she can sense that too.

    Thanks so much for your advice, and sorry again for the long post! I just want to make sure that everything goes as smoothly as possible when we bring Norbert home!

    ETA Thanks Kaz! I'll have to pop up to my vet to get some!

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    im glad that last night seemed to be ok! and I am really happy to hear that your dog is part of your family too! I hate that people give away their pets or make them outside animals just cos of a baby! I mean your not gunna put your 2 year old outside when you have a new baby so why do it to your cat or dog? Ha ha ha thats my vent!
    Good luck with everything!
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    Hey Guys, I thought that maybe I could get some help with my dog too on this weeing inside thing. I have two dogs, a male and a female. The male is 8 and the female is 2. I would tell the breed, but am afraid I will get some negative comments. Both dogs are inside during the night and come in occassionally during the day and are definitely inside when it is really hot outside.

    Anyways! For as long as I remember the male dog has been weeing inside. I've only been with DP for 3 yrs but I know before I met him, his dog was still weeing inside. This may have something to do with when DP was living with is brother and they had two male dogs that did not get along, so one was inside and the other outside and they would get swapped during the day. This is really gross to say but the dogs used to go to wee inside - I NEVER liked going to that house at the beginning of our relationship! LOL

    About a month after DP and I met, we moved in to our own home and I think 2 wks after that we got my girl at 6wks of age. I think things at the beginning were good where DP's dog wouldnt wee inside. I dont know when it started but it became a frequent thing where he would wee inside even tho the back door was open for him. He would wee on anything - walls, bin, couch etc. And no matter how many times we told him that inside was not for weeing, he just wouldnt listen.

    I must admit that I lose my temper at him and I yell at him and I used to give him a good smack. But that never got him to change, so I stopped it. A few weeks back I had enough of him weeing inside so I made him sleep outside, About a week after putting him outside, he decided to run away! Luckily he ran to our old rental house where a friend is living so the friend brought him back home.

    I know that punishment is not the answer, that I will need to train him to go do a wee outside. He does know this, he is a smart dog but he seems to do it just to get back at us for something?? I dont know what to do anymore, I was thinking of maybe buying a spray to spray on his 'hot' spots but he will just find a different place to wee.

    Has anyone got any suggestions?! I really would like to get this sorted before our daughter arrives, I just dont know what to do anymore!!

    Sorry for the long post too.

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    In my experience, the peeing inside things is either laziness or domination, especially in a male dog that is not desexed.

    Do you allow your dogs on the furniture? Do you feed them before or at the same time as you?

    And is he desexed?

    When my young male dog came to be that age, he did it inside once, and I handled that by putting him outside overnight, he didn't try it again. But from that day it was a wake up call for me. I made sure that my kids were never on the floor or ground with him, like lying down so they were beneath him. They are fed about 2 hours after the family is and I never allow them on the couches, or anywhere where they are level with us.

    I'm not saying that's your problem, I'm just thinking of in my experience with peeing inside male dogs that it is often a domination thing, that they simply feel they can.

    My IL's have a male dog which pees inside constantly, especially when they bring it to my house. It their case, he is the dominant dog out of 4 and they treat him like a baby, he gets places on the couch over me and my children when they are staying here. And when we have tried to put him outside as soon as he pees so he gets it, MIL lets him straight back in and he just goes back and does it again.

    It's very hard in your situation because there is an older dog and he has been in that habit for a long time by the sounds. My male dog was easy to train out of it because I nipped it in the bud the first time he did it, but for a dog that's been going that way for a long time it would be very hard.

    I hope some others have experienced this and have some good suggestions. I know exactly what you mean about a baby coming and you want this to be over now, it is part of the reason IL"s are not allowed to visit with their 4 dogs anymore, is because the peeing thing gets out of control and they don't clean it up, it really bothers me about that now, but when a baby is in the house it will really bother me.

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    We have always fed Emma after us, usually one or two hours after. She used to be in the bed, on the couches, but that has all stopped now (which she was fine with). She is still very much our baby, but I think she is aware of her place in the family (ie at the bottom!).

    Veronica, I am no expert (clearly!) but I would think that because your dog has been in this habit for awhile it will be a hard one to break - and I totally understand you wanting to do it before your bub arrives! I think it's very important that you do it beforehand, even if only so he doesn't associate the changes with the baby. If I were in your shoes I would be thinking about getting a professional to help you. There are people who can come to your house, or going to a dog training school might be good. Or at least asking your vet for advice. (I will considering all of these things if we have any further problems with Emma that we can't address ourselves).

    Oh, and don't worry about posting the breed of your dogs - anyone reading this thread is likely to be a dog lover, and will understand that you're in here trying to do the right thing! I do think that no matter what the breed, you can never be too careful with dogs around children so I think that you are definitely doing the best thing by trying to sort out any issues before your baby girl arrives.

    Good luck hun, I will be following your story with interest - can't wait to see what other people suggest for you!

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