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  1. #1
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    Dec 2005
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    When Sam was on stage one formula he would only poo every four days. He wasn't constipated and nothing we did made him go more often... That's just the way he was. I have heard it said of BF babies that once every 10 days or 10 times every day is normal and so is everything in between!

    Smithy, when it comes to your little one's constipation problem, I'd seriously consider ditching the thickened formula. I have been told that S26 is notorious for causing constipation, so I'd try a completely different brand of formula before doing things like watering it down and so on. It is completely normal for babies to feed frequently at that age, too.

    Now... I'm a little afraid of what I'm about to say next and how it could be taken, but I feel like I need to just say it anyway. For those who are starting their babies on solid foods very early, please, please PLEASE make sure that you are aware of what you are doing! It's something I was extremely paranoid about with Sam as he is high risk of developing food allergies, but we waited and he seems fine so far, thankfully. But I do know of a couple of babies that were started early (as in before 4 months old) and both now have severe food allergies and intolerances that will be with them for life. My nephew who was started on solid food at 4 months old also has issues with allergies. PLEASE look into what you could be doing to your babies and be sure that you are making the right decision for your family, not just doing it because it seems like fun.

    I honestly do hope that I haven't offended anyone, it's just something I feel VERY strongly about because of the research we did when looking at Sam starting solid food and knowing what has happened to other babies who were started on solids early.

    I shall now go and get back to work.

    BW

  2. #2
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    May 2008
    Sydney, Australia
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    BW - Good advice and point taken. Especially helpful knowing that you have done a lot of research and reading.

    For what it's worth and because we are all talking about poo habits , Adam is FF and does one good size soft poo once per day, sometimes every 2nd day and does not seem to have any trouble evacuating the evil spirits! We also tried the thickened s26 and I just didn't like the really yellow color that it stains everything, so we have given up on thickening his formula, didn't really help us anyway with his reflux. Didn't give it enough of a try to see whether it constipated him.

    Acacia = hope your little one finishes cutting teeth soon!

    Grub - go back to bed!!!!

    Murph - Jazzy likes to fill her nappy, but listening to everyone here, that sounds normal!

    Hello to BG, Marcellus, Lenny, Poppy, Green, Smithy, KellyD and anyone I"ve missed. Hope you are well, kisses to all bubbies.

    AFM: All well, Adam giggling away madly all day and I just love it, although it means far less study than I'm supposed to be doing, even when DH helping out. Too cute to ignore. No problems here.

  3. #3
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    Oct 2007
    Rural England
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    Hehe might as well throw in my DD's bowel habits for reference for everyone too

    DD was exclusively BF for almost 6 months and she would poo multiple (i.e. many!) times in a day, right through until she started solids. I was waiting (as told many BF babies do) for her to stop soiling every nappy she went into and start to go a big stretch between poos, but it never happened lol. After she started solids she would still poo every feed, but then slowly dropped to pooing 3 or 4 times a day, and now she's anywhere between 1-4 times a day still. Very occasionally she will go more than a day between bowel motions, but that is rare, and is usually a sign she hasn't drunk enough fluids (BM or water, usually water) and often results in her getting generally backed up for a while (i.e. harder poos until she catches up).

    DD was much like Jazz, Murph - she would use her bowels during or directly after a BF. In fact, she would often be really unsettled trying to poo (often in her sleep, waking her up) until she had a feed, which was hard, as she'd be thrashing about really uncomfortable, sucking to try to get a feed, but sucking also to try to do a poo ITMS.

    As mentioned, this all happened especially whilst she was having a lot of trouble learning to be able to use her bowels properly, so sucking and feeding helped her as a baby's tummy filling up triggers what's called the gastro-colic reflex, giving them the urge to poo. My DD still works this way - all her bowel motions now happen (usually) within 5-10 minutes of eating a meal, and occasionally after having a BF still.

    Hehe and so ends the poo talk from Acacia

  4. #4
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    Dec 2006
    In my own private paradise
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    hehehe gotta love the chatter that happens in these threads. you become a mummy, and you actively discuss your bubba's toileting habits!

    BW - i read your post and i know we discussed the allergy thing at length when you were contemplating starting Sam on solids. i have also done a lot of reading to go with it, and i agree that holding off solids til 6 months (or as close to as possible) and then introducing foods helps to reduce the risk od allergies developing. there is also a lot out there that now says that foods such as peanuts that may cause allergic reaction are best introduced (just a little) before the 12 month mark (unless there is a known allergy in the family) - the only thing that seems to say to hold off until 12 months is honey, which makes sense (botulism risk).

    we started introducing low risk foods, and have gradually introduced pretty much everything now. as i've probably mentioned, we live at least 15k's from a pharmacy, 30k's from the hospital - doesn't sound like much, but it can be a long trip if something is happening (like allergic reaction!) so the "high risk" foods have been introduced at mum's place when we've had a couple of hours to hang around and check on DD. she hasn't had much in the way of peanuts (just a scraping of peanut butter on a slice of bread) - but she had no reaction - means i'm not so worried about introducing satay back into our diet now!

  5. #5
    Registered User

    Feb 2008
    Melbourne
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    Hi all - just wanted to say that we are back! Haven't had time to read through all the posts, but a big HI to all you lovely mummies and your gorgeous bubs.

    We had an awesome time in LA and Hawaii. Jasmine was so funny at Disneyland - she really didn't know what to make of all the characters, so consequently all our photos with the characters have her with her face towards them trying to figure out what is going on! Spent all our time swimming in Hawaii. She was fantastic on the flights - basically slept for 90% of the time - wish I had been able to!

    Will have to come back later to catch up properly as Jazzy is stirring.

    Hope you are all well.

    Janie and Jasmine xxx

  6. #6
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    Nov 2008
    on the verge of greatness!
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    oh janie you sound really happy and upbeat... maybe we should all go on an overseas holiday! glad you had a great time. those pics are going to be like gold in a few year's time lol.

    thanks neptune, i did got back to bed for a small nap. We are now hiding out in the lounge with the a/c as it's supposed to get to 35+ with hight humidity here today... ugh. so i got in early with the a/c.

    lol i agree BG ... we talk about great stuff on these threads. i believe there was a very funny discussion on the pregnancy folder about sex and who is doing what and when lol. I still remember what Smithy said Coop's comment about sex with a pregy wife was: Like riding a camel. lol

    Acacia - glad you are feeling better. that exam study sounds like the last thing you need atm. Just tell em grub said you can stay and should just go back to bed!

    thanks for your advice BW

    gotta run. getting paged..

    oh does it count as rolling if he rolls off the towel put under his chest during tummy time?? he's done it twice this morning! oxo

  7. #7
    Registered User

    May 2008
    Sydney, Australia
    333

    Just wanted to comment on Grub's ticker.....Ash is too cool for school, that is a gorgeous shot of him

  8. #8
    BellyBelly Life Subscriber

    Jan 2006
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    Welcome back Janie, glad your trip went well!

    Green, mate, those ABs are killers for bub's tummy. And he's been on them for a while now, hasn't he, first you then him (is that right)? I hope his problems clear up soon so he can stop them - I'm sure you'll see a massive improvement once he's off the ABs. A was a mess when I was on ABs, but we were lucky as it was only a few weeks.

    Molars suck! A's second molars have been moving recently, but still not through. Don't know how long that's goign to take.

    Ah, I love talking about pooh! In the first 1-2 months DS poohed every single time he fed. Then it gradually got less and less, till around 5 months he had a few weeks with 1/week, then we started solids and he was back to every 2-3 days. Once he was eating properly, he started going once per day.

    On solids, there was an awesome article in a recent edition of the ABA's magazine about baby-led solids. She talked about meeting food and actually starting to eat. So meeting food from birth - ie, they sit with family while family is eating and see the food and see everyone eating. Then as they get older and interested they can reach out and try things if they want, but it's completely at their own pace - they chose what they want and how much. When they're ready to eat, they do, so there's no anxiety about whether they're ready or not, you know? It makes a lot of sense to me. She doesn't set out a particular age, but babies would naturally have to be sitting up and able to get the food and put it into their mouths by themselves.

    We kinda did BLS for DS, but also spoon fed him stuff (particualrly when he was a bit older and hungry). We delayed wheat and dairy, but won't next time having read the new guidelines on allergies.

    A had a fabulous day yesterday helping daddy in the garden. He even refused to go to the playground he was having so much fun. And he wanted daddy to put him down for a nap and at bedtime - I had such a lovely, lazy day!

  9. #9
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    TO ALL YOU BEAUTIFUL GIRLS FOR THINKING OF US.
    WE ARE DOING SOOO MUCH BETTER NOW EVEN ON THE THICKENED FORMULA,LAST NIGHT LITTLE MISS CHARLIE STARTED POOING PROPERLY (OPPS CAPS )
    i think all the water and the coloxyl drops have really helped as she actually just pooed all by herself with out even crying or making any noise took her to see the clinic nures today and she has put on 300grms.
    as for the thickened formula WE DID NOT WATER IT DOWN AT ALL LOL..as we were to worried she wouldnt get all the goodness
    AND we even got 5 hrs sleep in one go last night so happy mummy makes happy baby

    MARCELLUS, your beautiful hun and thanks so much for the hot tip

    GREEN, formula isnt really that scary hun as all my girls have been reared on formula and they are all perfect kids,its just this once that ive eva had any problems
    again thatns you all so much for taking the time to help me out

    MURPH, love you hun your gorg and oh yes thank god for our neptune xxoo