Just a quickie while I catch up ------

Angel - good luck with your scan! It's Monday in Dory land at least, so you should have your scan today. And worry? Sweetie - I am not sure the worry ever goes away. It changes, and the things you worry about are slightly different, but in the end it's the same theme - is this pregnancy going to have the ending I want? And like Ferals said - parenthood is worry, it's just the thing you worry about changes....

Tegam - I don't know how you do it! What a champ - but bet you must be tired. Can you come clean at my house?

Murray - my little lurker - when do your furries go for their snip?

Kit - I can so understand your vent...... was it good to see little tiger on the u/s?

Milly - I was wondering where you got to. Sorry you're not feeling well and feeling emotional. DH and I are relatively disorganised but getting there. It will all work out, so don't worry too much. I know what you mean about worries about baby having to be in NICU and for you it means being a lot longer away from home. I fully anticipated to be hospitalised for this preg and have an extremely prem baby so a lot of our mental prep has focused on those issues. I haven't been yet but doesn't make it any easier though....

Ric - that just sounds like M/S to me. It is always shocking when it comes back out looking very much like it went in. LOL. Take care of yourself and if you're not keeping anything down and are feeling really weak, then maybe a trip to the hossy to get some fluids? Being dehydrated and run down only makes you feel worse.

About bubs movements? It is so variable as to when you can first feel them. My obs reckons most people think its gas for ages when its really baby. It depends on where the placenta is attached in the uterus ( harder to feel bubs kick if you have an anterior/front placenta), the size of your uterus, whether you've gotten to this stage of preg before, whether you carry any abdomonial fat. I have felt the "flutters" or "bubbles" quite early on in each pregnancy, but have been unsure about what it is I have been feeling as my digestive system is really wacky. So at first it's actually hard to really know what you're feeling, and even as the pregnancy progresses it can be hard to tell exactly what is going on. A while ago ( sorry not good at remembering things at the mo) I had a huge laugh though.... it felt like my lunch just violently and suddenly rearranged itself down low, or like I was going to have some sort of butt explosion - and it was baby! LOL. Better baby than the other two options.

The very coolest thing that I love at the mo is just watching my tummy roil and move about as baby moves. I have no control over it and the shapes can be quite confronting - after all my belly has never looked like this before. It is awesome and mesmerising. I can spend a fair bit of time just watching....

So I probably felt bubbles or flutters between 12/16 weeks, depending on the pregnancy, and they stayed that way until at least 18/20 weeks. I was sure I felt different movements earlier but they were not "regular or frequent" just sort of once off's but they felt more like kicks than flutters. After 20 weeks the movements became more distinctive. In fact the first time DH felt this little bubs ( well any of our bubs in fact) move was the night before our 20 week scan - he got quite an impressive show of kicking and moving, which then didn't happen again so obviously for a week. Up until 27 weeks it is common apparently for there to be no real pattern to the babies movements, but after then most people start to notice a pattern, but it can still vary.

I am still not caught up but need to go do a few things. I'll be back.....