Babies born July 2006 #2

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July '06

Forum Name:
State:
Baby's DOB:
Baby's Stats: Weight - Length - Head Circ -
Gender of Baby:
Baby's Name:
Baby's Website:
Health Concerns:
Notes:
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Name: Trish (Baby~amore` - I chose my user name before I knew it was twins - means Baby love :) )
State: NSW
DOB: 1.7.06 (35weeks & 4days - EDD was 1st August)
Stats: Samuel 6lb 8.5 oz (2960gm), Length - 46.5cm
Joel 4lb 12oz (2164gm) Length 43cm
Gender: Males
Babies names: Samuel Matthew Gordon (twin A) and Joel Thomas Ryan (twin B)
Website: http://www.babiesonline.com/babies/t...rbellybubbies/
Health Concerns: None
Notes: Spent 3 days in NICU and 15 days in Special Care Nursery - though well
Born by emergency c/s - Breech and Maternal obstetric cholestatis (more common in multiple pregnancy)
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Forum Name: Bubseykel
State: WA
Baby's DOB: 6/7/06
Baby's Stats: Weight 3.98kg (8lb 12oz) Length 52cm Head Circ 34.5cm
Gender of Baby: Girl
Baby's Name: Danielle Lucy
Baby's Website: http://www.babiesonline.com/babies/h/hobbsbaby
Health Concerns: n/a
Notes: Born 9 days early - Vaginal birth - 6 1/2 hours labour - pushing 1 1/2 hours - 'Corkscrew' method used to pull her out as her shoulders got stuck - Danielle ended up with a broken shoulder bone due to being stuck but she is fine now!!
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Name: Becca@bellybelly
State: NSW
Baby's DOB: 11/07/06
Baby's Stats: Weight - Length - Head Circ - 4065 g - 53 cm - 36.5 cm
Gender of Baby: Male
Baby's Name: Oskar Maddox Cooper
Baby's Website: none yet
Health Concerns: none
Notes: 11 days overdue (EDD 30/06/06). Admitted to hospital for induction 09/06/06 (evening), had a c/s 11/07/06 (early morning) as baby was not descending.
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Forum Name: AJ
State: Christchurch NZ
Baby's DOB: 15 July 2006
Baby's Stats: Weight 7lb 13oz - Length – 50cm Head Circ – 34cm
Gender of Baby: Boy
Baby's Name: Ethan Paul
Baby's Website:
Health Concerns: None
Notes: 40hrs of contractions – not progressing- waters manually broken, Synto drip, Gas then epidural – bubs went into distress emergency c-section performed- all good from there.

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Forum Name: Fee
State: Qld
Baby's DOB: 17 July 2006
Baby's Stats: 3.63 kgs (8 lbs) - 51.5 cm - 35 cm
Gender of Baby: Boy
Baby's Name: Cooper Harvey
Baby's Website: http://www.totsites.com/tot/babywoj or http://au.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mrswoj78/my_photos
Health Concerns: n/a
Notes: Vaginal birth with pethidine - labour approx 12 hours long and pushed for only 43 minutes
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Forum Name: Cassie
State: Victoria
Baby's DOB: 17/7/06
Baby's Stats: Weight - 3.9kg (8pd 10oz) Length - 51.5cm Head Circ - 37cm
Gender of Baby: Boy
Baby's Name: Dylan Sebastian
Baby's Website: http://www.babysites.com/sites/cassie77/
Health Concerns: None so far
Notes: Vaginal birth, 21 and a half hour labour, no pain relief apart from
the gas, was a vacuum extraction (ventouse)in the end after I became
exhausted, had been pushing about 2 hours, poor little mite had a bruise on
his head from the vacuum that is nearly gone, was also jaundiced for the
first week or so but better now, I had two first degree tears and four
stitches.
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Forum Name: Fraser (Emily)
State:TAS
Baby's DOB: 20 July 06
Baby's Stats:Weight 7 pounds 15 ounce, Length 53cm, Head Circ 36cm
Gender of Baby:Male
Baby's Name: Charlie Simon
Baby's Website:http://darguethomsonbaby.photosite.com/
Health Concerns:Nil
Notes: Born 9 days early - 4 hour 'active' labour - popped out way sooner than expected even caught the OB by surprise - no time for drugs but unfortunately enough time for an episiotomy!
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Forum Name: KMH
State: Victoria
Baby's DOB: 20/7/06
Baby's Stats: Weight 3.29 kg (7lb 4oz) - Length 48cms, Head Circ 34.5cms
Gender of Baby: female
Baby's Name: Charlotte Johanna Howell
Baby's Website:
Health Concerns: Tongue Tied
Notes: VBAC, was induced as i was 5 days over, waters broken and sytno drip, 7 hours of labour with all drugs, pushed for 1hr and 20mins with an
episiotomy!
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Forum Name: kyliealisha
State:
Baby's DOB: 21 July 2006
Baby's Stats: Weight - Length - Head Circ - 3.6 kg - 51 cm - 36.6 cm
Gender of Baby: Female
Baby's Name: Emma Jessie
Baby's Website: http://hampton.faberex.com/Default.a...th=Baby%20Emma
Health Concerns: None
Notes: Emma was born via emergency C Section after many hours of labour when we realised she was not going to fit through my pelvis!

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Forum Name: Boisey
State: Melb, Vic
Baby's DOB: 27/7/06
Baby's Stats: Weight 3.345kg Length 5ocm Head Circ 35cm
Gender of Baby: Boy
Baby's Name: Jensen Robert
Baby's Website:
Health Concerns: n/a

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Forum Name: Shinee
State: Canberra where its lovely and cold!!!
Baby's DOB: 28th July 2006 (just made it in)
Baby's Stats: Weight - 3.095kg Length -49cm Head Circ -34cm(34cm too big if
u ask me)
Gender of Baby: shes defiantly a girly, girl
Baby's Name: Lucy Alys Tait
Baby's Website: gots to get to that
Health Concerns: nothing she is absolutly puuuuuurfect!
Notes: induced labour started wednesday 26th July, 3 sets of gels.. nothing until thursday 27th july at 10pm when my waters naturally broke and finally after nearly 38hours of contractions and pethadine (wasnt allowed to have an epi due to blood clot at 31wks :( )Lucy came gushing into the world not breathing for 40 seconds at 11:39am!!!!
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Hi ladies

Have had a few quite busy days so don' have much time for personals today! Had quite a good nights sleep last night as Dylan slept in his bassinet all night as opposed to our bed and he fed at 2.30am and 9am so in between those two I got a big chunk of sleep. Apart from that we had our first mothers group session yesterday which was really good and I already knew someone in the group. Today we went to a settling talk which was quite good too. Anyway have to go pick up hubby now may be back later for more! Hope everyone is good.

good boy Dylan for giving Mummy a long sleep in ...:p

Here are Cooper's stats from his 4 week check up:

Weight: 4.51 kg (4510 g) (9.9 lbs)
Length: 57 cm
Head: 37.5 cm

The midwife gave him 10/10!!! Yay! He put on 490 grams in 2 weeks which is good. I felt better after finding that out! It's good to know they are growing big and strong!

DH just took Cooper down to the shops with him. It's the first time we have been separated!!!

Shellbabe – I don't have a real routine with Cooper. I think he's too young. When he wakes and cries I feed him! Although during the day I don't let him go longer than 4 hours between feeds. The hospital told me to do this. So if I feed him at 10.00 am then his next feed is due at 2.00 pm. If he's still sleeping then I wake him. This doesn't happen that often though. He usually wakes up right on time or otherwise earlier than the 4 hours. At night I let him sleep though. I think it helps to distinguish between night and day. He often goes 4-8 hours between feeds at night.

Cassie – Glad to hear you got a big chunk of sleep. It's so nice isn't it!

Well I am feeling very refreshed today - Charlotte slept from midnight until 6am - bliss!! AND my boobs didn't wake me up, which was nice - they were certainly ready to go first thing though.

The lactaction consultant visited me today too - but just missed a feed which is a shame, so she is coming back tomorrow, hopefully it will be in time for a feed.
We tried to feed while she was here - attaching without a shield, but Charlotte wasn't hungry - just tired. Good news is she wasn't refusing straight nipple - just not hungry enough to start sucking. LC said this is great, because after three weeks on the shield sometimes they refuse the breast altogether and only feed with a shield.
Though I did have my suspicions confirmed though, Charlotte loves sucking the shield not my breast!

Fee - sounds like Cooper is coming along brilliantly - I know when Charlotte had put on a good amount I felt relived everything was working right!
With the routine, I had a good chat with the LC and she said I should be waking her every 4 hours too - usually she wakes by the 5 hr mark during the day - it's the not knowing bit that is awkward - so am going to try waking her at 2. Hopefully she doesn't get too angry with me! took forever for her to go to sleep after the last feed!

Fee - Cooper is doing great! I'm very jealous that he sleeps up to 8 hours at night, Oskar rarely goes past the 4 hour mark.

Shellbabe - I'm glad the consultant was helpful and hope it goes even better tomorrow. Like I said to Fee above, I wish I got a couple of longer sleeps like the 6 hours you got last night! I'm sure it will happen eventually though.

I just came back from taking Oskar to the supermarket in his Baby Bjorn. It is the first time I have used it. I think he liked it. He actually fell asleep on his rug on the floor as I was putting it on, then I transferred him into the baby Bjorn and he stayed asleep during our excursion! If only he fell asleep that easy at night...

Hey peeps!

Fee - I am jealous too of your 8 hour sleeps!! I got 3 1/2 in one go last night and was pretty happy with myself! It is amazing how your body can adjust to not much sleep though! That's great Cooper is doing so well.

Shell - the lactation consultant from our hospital was supposed to ring me a few days after we went home, but never did. We haven't had any problems so I guess that has worked out ok - they scare me a little bit anyway!

Becca - Charlie loves being in a front pack too - he always falls asleep - lately thought he is quite taken by his pram - he sleeps in there during the day instead of his bed - he settles right away - maybe he thinks we're going to take him on a walk!

we have our first mothers group meeting tomorrow - bit nervous about going. It's one thing reading up on all of your posts and exchanging info - but talking to people face to face intimidates me a little! I'll go along and see what it's like - if I hate it I wont go again.

Charlie is doing great - he is so chubby!! I am really starting to actually enjoy him now, instead of just worry about him and view him as a job. he knows my voice and settles when people hand him back to me if he's squawking - it's so nice. This morning I had him in bed with me and fell asleep with my face next to his - I must have kept rolling to close or something because every now and then he would push at my face with his hands - so cute.

Got a smile yesterday too - I'm sure it wasn't wind because he used his eyes as well, not just his mouth.

I think he gets sick of me kissing him though, poor thing, I can't help myself but kiss him all over and he starts grunting and trying to hit me with his little fists!

anyway enough gushing.

Hope everyone is well. Em

ps: Bubs - are you ok?

:hello:
i ahd started to right a really long post and the stupid comp lost it.
Anyhow, we are going good, i still think i have low milk supply, as Charlotte seems not be getting enough during the day but at night as sleeps much longer she gets what she wants then, i am expressing after most feeds and then topping her up with that at night, but its not much, i am going to go to the health food shop tomorrow and ask what they think i can do to try and increade it, others wise i may go to the doctors as i know there is somethin they can give me to increase it. Last night i only got up once for a feed at 3:30am. Yay.

Cassie- its great that you like your mothers group, i love going i have been going for 19mnths, its great support.

Shellbebe- welcome, Charlotte is a great name.:)

Fee- wow cooper is doing great, we have your 4 weeks check up on friday, i think Charlottw will weigh in somewhere in the low 8 pounds, as last week she was 7 pound 11.

I hope everyone else is doing great.:)

Hi Everyone - yes I'm still alive and at home.

Things have settled down here. He came home on Saturday evening and as he walked in the door I made a kissing sound (that's what we normally do every night) and he made one back. I went up to him and said sorry for snapping and he said sorry too and hugged (the three of us - Danielle was in my arms as she just finished having a bath and being dressed). I think we are both very tired and get grumpy easily. It has been bliss since. One of the best things - we found the Colic Relief we bought!! The trolley boy found it and returned to the chemist we bought it from. He's a lovely boy!!Sunday we went to my Aunty's place for my cousin's birthday and he helped by feeding her so I could help my Aunty in the kitchen and Tuesday I got home late and he got home early and cooked dinner for us. He hasn't had a full night's sleep since Danielle was born. It's hard as our rooms are right next to each other so when she crys during the night she wakes both of us up but she usually only wakes up once so it's not that bad as we go to bed at 8.30 and get up at 6 like she does.

I've had a busy week so far. Monday and Tuesday I was at a First Aid course especially for babies and children. Both morning I had to be out the door by 7.30 at the latest so I could drop Danielle off at my mums or Ken's step mums and get to the course, go back and pick her up afterwards and go home. I wasn't home until about 5.30 both days. Yesterday I was out the door at 7.30 again to pick my mum up as she was getting her car serviced, back home for an hour, off to the doctor for my 6 week checkup (which I've been given the all clear!! YAY!!), to my Oma's for lunch, off to the paed for Danielle, off to Medicare to get my money back, run around trying to find this stuff for Danielle, Mum's car wasn't ready so I took her home and wasn't really home until 5 again! Luckily I'm staying home most of the day today. I need to take Mum back this afternoon to get her car.

Danielle's pretty much been given the all clear from the paed. Her shoulder has mended but could take up to 3 months to properly heal but when she grows up she won't even know she had it done. She's was 4.7 kilos (10lbs 6 oz I think! - 8lbs 12oz orig) on his scales, 54cm in length (I'm questioning that one - only 2cm since she was born??) and 37cm head (34.5). He said that she's got really sensitive skin like me and needs a special cream to clear up her spots on her face. He said it's similar to a baby eczema but it's not to that stage yet. This cream should clear it up. Otherwise she's fine!!

My breast milk has dried up a bit again due to lack of expressing but I'm home now so I'll be back on the pump for most of the day today! Thanks for everyone's support during my little spaz - especially Em. We always seem to know what to say to each other hey!! Danielle's sleeping well. She's going from going down between 8 and 9 then waking between 1 and 2 (last night was 2.30!) and then again between 5 and 6 so I ususally only get up once during the night! She's an angel!! I've noticed a huge improvement in her after giving her Brauer's Colic Relief for her wind. The nurse recommended it and I'm so glad she did!!

As for who gets up during the night - that's me and always me! Well most of the time. Ken gets up occasionally during the night and change her nappy while I'm getting her bottle ready so once he's ready I'm usually ready and then I feed her and he goes back to bed but doesn't really sleep until I'm back in bed. Otherwise I get her bottle ready and then go and change her nappy and then feed her. I tried to feed and settle her back in her room at night where it's quiet and just has her sleeping music on but she's takes so much longer to settle instead of being infront of the TV so I've resorted to still doing that.

I'm sorry it's so long and all out us.

Kel - I found that Fenugreek has helped with my milk supply. Maybe try that first before getting medications as I spoke to the doctor yesterday and did a bit of research on the net and some of the medications could get into the breast milk. I prefer something natural going through first before medication.

Em - definately go the the mother's group! A few weeks ago when I had to weigh Danielle twice a week I went to quite a busy place and there were heaps of mother's waiting for the nurse so they were chatting away. I stayed quiet for a bit but then loosened up a bit and it was really good speaking to people like that who where in similar situations or going through it right now. Sounds like you are really enjoying Charlie. I'm so glad. Danielle punched me in the face yesterday when we were lying in bed together early. Thank you so much Em!!

Becca - go the baby carrier!! Danielle did that to me when I went to the bank and she fell asleep on me. It's so nice!

Shell - hello from me!! The paed I saw yesterday said not to worry too much over night if they sleep longer than 4 hours. As long as they don't go over it during the day. Danielle wants every 2 hours during the day now that she sleeps longer at night but that's better than waking every 3 hours during the night!!

Fee - sounds like Coopers a great little person! I'm so jealous of you!!

Cassie - yay for sleep!!

I better run. Danielle's stiring again and I want to duck in for a quick shower before she wakes totally. Have a great day! And thanks again everyone!!

Cooper is 1 month old today! I took a heap of photos of him this morning and got some good ones of him smiling. It's so hard to catch his smile on camera! Got to be quick. They're on my Yahoo website link below if you're interested.

Shellbabe – I'm also using a shield and it's been 1 month now. Cooper can sometimes latch on without it but then other times he just won't (or can't). I have flat nipples. I try to have a go without the shield at least once a day but sometimes I don't. If he's sucking away happily I don't want to disturb him!!! The midwife at the baby clinic told me not to stress about using the shield. She said Cooper is growing brilliantly and seems happy and content. So she said to try and go without when I can – but not to worry about it too much. I have heard of mothers who have used shields for 4 months with no issues. I know it's not ideal… but I'm not sure what else to do. I have been meaning to get a LC to come out and see me but I haven't organised it yet.

Becca – Well Cooper was waking for a feed every 4 hours last night. So no huge sleeps for me. But it's still not too bad. I do a feed before I go to sleep and then I only get up around midnight and then 5.00 am. I don't mind this. Cooper likes the Baby Bjorn too. I often use it in the mornings around the house when he is a bit unsettled.

Fraser – Oh please don't be jealous of 8 hour sleeps. It's 8 hours between feeds, not actual sleep time. I'm usually up for about an hour doing the feed/changing nappies etc. But I guess it's still a good sleep! He hasn't done that for a while though. So this Mother's Group – is it one organised from this forum? I'm having a Mother's Group at my house in a few weeks with girls from another forum I chat on. I have met some of them before though so it won't be too scary!

kmh – Sorry to hear about your milk supply. There are some threads in the BF-ing section about ways to increase your supply (different herbs, recipes etc).

Bubseykel – Wow sounds like you have been busy – out and about! I'm lucky if I go out of the house during the week! DH takes our only car to work. He'll leave it with me if I have to go somewhere though. He rides his bike to work on those days. Hmmm so Danielle has grown 2 cm since birth. You'll have to see what the other babies in our group have done. Cooper has grown 6 cm in 4 weeks. I think he might be tall!

hey ladies,

what a freaked out weird old horrible day - Charlie has been very unsettled - didn't go to the mothers group - I think he could pick up on some emotion that Simon and I were feeling all day.

Don't read on if you're emotional.

We got some news today, some friends of ours were due with there second son this week, went into labour last night and lost the baby. Apparently the cord was wrapped around his neck. I am in so much shock, I can't believe this could happen in this day and age. Charlie had the cord around his neck but the OB just looped it off with his finger, I can't understand how this could happen.

I felt physically ill when we found out, we both cried for ages and then have spent all day just in a zombie like state. We keep imagining what it must feel like and we have to stop doing that - it's not good for us - but then we feel guilty if we're happy in a time that simply must be the most devastating of their lives.

It is beyond comprehension, I can't believe it. I was only talking to the father on the phone the other day laughing about how much of a handful new born babies are and good luck with dealing with a 2 year old and a new born.

I feel sick.

Knock knock hope its ok for me to come and join u guys in here??? i was a august bellie buddy but was induced early cause of having a blood clot at 31wks...

HI EVERYONE!!!! AND A BIG HI TO TRISH!!!!!

well il keep poping in and join in the convo...

Hi Girls!

Em- oh Im so sorry to hear what has happened to your friends... I have to agree that in this day and age ...you really do wonder how this could happen...or at the very least a scan could have...should have picked it up...my thoughts are with you honey!:hug:

Kel- Ive been thinking of you heaps...glad to hear that things are now on the up and up...have to say that when we have a lack of sleep it really makes everything so much more difficult... Ive been so sleep deprived of late too and cracked it at Rob last night because he has spent most of the time with the tradesmen working on the house...I know its only b/c he wants things finished...but this is meant to be our special family time...and Rob goes back to work this monday...so grrrrr !!! Perhaps Id better get some more sleep too!! And big pat on the back to you... your so good at getting out and about... i havent done that on my own yet....:eek: :eek:

shinee- welcome!

Fee- great to hear that Cooper is doing so well!

oops Jensen is awake...better go!
hope everyone else is doing well and getting more sleep!!
love cyn

Em - I am so sorry for the loss of your friend's little boy.It is heartbreaking news.:hug: My SIL told me a friend of her friend lost their baby to cord accident last week too. I was so sad for them.

A friend of mine lost her daughter last year on July 9th @39wks - she found out the baby had passed away just before she was to have a c/s . The cord was around neck 6 times.She is now 33wks pg with a little boy. I know a few others too -unfortunately scans don't always show -my friend is so anxious.
It was be so emotional for you too.

Bubs - glad things are on the up for you and Danielle is doing so well.Good on you for doing a First aid course -you are keen.

Hi Shinee & Lucy !

hello to everyone else ... time for feeding again.

:hello:
Em- :hug: to you and your friends.

Bubs- i have started to take the Fenugreek today, how long did it take before you noticed a difference. I am so glad to see you and ken has sorted out your little problem. it's amazing that we can surive on little sleep, how was you first aid course? Did you learn much?

shine- welcome back.

Things have been going well today, expect i went down the street by myself today and i got beck and tim had to feed Charlotte the ebm that i had in the fridge for when she goes through her grumpy stage, so i hope she is settled tonight as i have only 20mls in the fridge for her now. so haopefully she gets enough from me tonight.

Fraser – That is so so sad about your friend. I was actually just reading through some other threads here on the forum and saw a lady who lost her baby during labour at 40 weeks. The thought just makes me feel ill. It's so tragic and unfair.

shinee – Welcome!!! :hello: Lucy looks adorable in your ticker.

Boisey – How's your house going? PS – Jensen is sooooo cute in y our ticker! What a cute photo.

Baby~amore – Hi Trish. Hope all is going well with your boys.

kmh – Hope Charlotte was settled for you last night.

Kel - I noticed a difference within a day but I also increased my water as I would only normally drink 2 glasses a day. Myabe if you're not getting your eight glasses to increase that too. Within 2 days I noticed a huge difference. My First Aid course was great. I didn't really know what to do about anything so I got heaps out of it. It covered CPR to bites to alergic reations - you name it! I did the one especially for children and babies. It's not the cheapest course but I do feel more confident in dealing with things. My class was so small that we practiced on the adults too so they pretty much covered everything. As they say it's great to know it but hopefully you'll never use it.

Cyn - thanks for thinking of me. You are so sweet - you made me cry!!

Welcome Shinee - I believe you were initially due in July so this means you were always meant to be here with us!!

Em - :hug: to you and your friends. I can't believe something like this could happen. It makes me cry and feel sick too. We almost lost Danielle and it's the worst feeling ever. It makes us think how lucky we are. If you need to talk go and see someone - even if it's just you GP. Take care honey.

Fee - Cooper is so cute. Danielle hasn't got the smiling thing happening too much yet. It seems more when she has wind. He sounds like he's growing up so fast!!

We have our 6 week check with the clinic nurse today. I know she'll weight and measure her again so we'll see how long she actually is. I believe she's grown more than that. She used to be able to lay in our laundry troff easily without hitting anything but now her head and her feet touch both sides easily. We had a lovely day at home yesterday. I should've done more around here as Danielle slept most of the day. I think being out of the house for the last 3 days has taken it out of her and all she wanted to do was sleep. Going to another Baby Show tomorrow with my SIL - Danielle's Aunty Donna. This one was great last year with heaps of freebies and I've got tickets to get in for free so it's definately going.

Have a great weekend everyone!!

Hi ladies

Em Sorry to hear about your friend, that makes me feel sick too.

Bubs Hope Danielles check up goes well.

Fee Dylan's been smiling too but have yet to quite capture it on camera. He especially smiles with his mouth full of nipple or when I call him cheeky cheeky and stroke his little chubby cheek, so cute!

Shellbabe and Fee I have been using a nipple shield since coming home from hospital and try to latch Dylan on without it and it works for a bit and then he will slip off and get too frustrtaed to get back on withiout it. I think I am going to keep using it as long as my baby is being fed I can't see the harm. I too have flat and very senstivie nipples so I think it is the only way I can do it. Is there any harm in using them does anyone know????

Went to a settling talk put on by the local Maternal Child Health centre on Tuesday which was pretty good and gave a few good tips that I didn't know already like stroking the babies forehead down to the tip of the nose helps them to relax and close their eyes, and it works! Also I have been wrapping Dylan wrong apparantly and now have two different ways of swaddling to use, one with hands in and one with hands out. The MCHN that ran the talk also talked about looking after yourself and taking time out when your are feeding to look at your baby and talk to your baby which I hadn't been doing always, I had been doing it with the TV on or during a phone call and now I am really trying to just concetrate on my baby and look at him heaps and now I realise that if his eyes are open he looks at me a lot which I had been missing out on.

I have had a bit of nappy brain I put my nipple shields and some of Dylans dummies on the stove to boil the other night and forgot them and only when I could hear some crackling noises coming from the kitchen did i run down to find the water all gone and the shields and dummies melted into the pot. So that all went in the bin and then started the water works as all of my nipple shields were in the pot so I was then saying to DH that I couldn't feed my baby waaaaaa. DH wanted to go out and buy some more (9pm at night) but I calmed down and fed him a bit on the nipple and expressed some milk and fed him with the bottle as well. I also made thew house stink of nelkted latex plus I nearly set the house on fire. What a drama!

Does anyone elses babies spew after every feed, I am wondering if this is reflux?

Everyone's tickers look so good!

Anyway that's all for now.

Fraser - that's so sad about your friend.

It's amazing how tuned in to new things you become after having a baby. I was in our local shopping centre yesterday and saw a mother with a pram panicking that she'd lost her toddler. I nearly cried there and then with her (thinking what if it happened to me) and couldn't relax until her little boy was found several minutes later.

Sarina is now 6 weeks old and has had a strange week this week. She's had a couple of really unsettled days where she couldn't sleep from 10am until around 8pm - no naps at all - alternating with a really good textbook baby day - sleep for at least an hour, feed happily and play for a while....and then dropping off to sleep easily.

It's was so hard when she didn't sleep at all. Last evening she slept on my chest for a couple of hours and made some really painful screaming cries but in her sleep.

Does anyone else's little one scream out in their sleep?

She also was a really 'efficient' feeder (quick to jump on, feed well then jump off) until about 4 days ago and has started to get really sleepy at each feed and taking twice as long. Not sure why she's changed - has anyone else had that experience?

Has anyone's baby laughed yet? Cooper does this sound exactly like a laugh but it's usually when he's drifting off to sleep in my lap after a feed (when he's dozy). It's very weird but it sounds so much like a real laugh. I can see the smile on his face too.

Bubseykel – How did Danielle's 6 week check up go?

Cassie – Cooper smiles during feeds too! It is a very cheeky smile!

Yay for another nipple shield user! You have made me feel a lot better. The only harm I have been told about using a nipple shield is that it can decrease your milk supply as the baby is not directly stimulating the breast. I have a lot of milk though so there shouldn't be a problem for me yet.

The midwives at the hospital who gave me the nipple shield said I do not need to sterilise it. Just to wash it in hot water with detergent and then store it in a container in the fridge. I only have the one shield and often wonder what would happen if it broke or something. DH would have to run out and get me another!

Wow that's cool about the tip to stroke baby from forehead to nose because my DH has been doing that! I don't know where he picked it up from! But it works most of the time on Cooper.

No Cooper doesn't spew that much so I can't help you out with that question.

RoyaUK – I have noticed that Cooper's "routine" has changed that many times it's not funny. I think it's pretty normal. For a while he was doing 40 minute feeds and now he's doing 10 minute feeds. Then one week he was great at sleeping during the day and now he's usually unsettled in the mornings. I'm just getting used to it!

good morning ladies and bubs ... hope we all have a good weekend.

Cassie - :doh: I bought a steriliser because I knew that would be me or if we got a microwave one I would cook it (as we use our m'wave as convection oven all the time too and I turn it on to preheat without looking).At least you could express - so frustrating though to 'cook' them.

Joel - has a little chuck(or big) every feed and sometimes a bit more later. Taking him to chiropractor Monday to see if helps - sure he has reflux.I have tried the nipple shield with him but he still isn't that interested.So it is still EBM for him. One bonus is that DH feeds him overnight.I stay in bed and feed Sammy.

We have no routine - go with the flow or whoever is crying loudest goes first,a bath whenever I fit it in or when DH comes home.They are fairly settled and I haven't had many hair pulling moments yet.

Morning all

FeeI had no idea that a shield can decrease your supply. I am having supply issues at the 6ish and 9ish feed of a night and sometimes have to top him up with formula. I am going to call ABA for some advice. I thought Dylan laughed the other day but DH said it wasn't a laugh.

Roya Sarina could be going through her 6 week growth spurt.

Babyamore It was very frustrating to cook all of them oh well. We went and looked at sterilizers but DH thought they were too expensive, though cheaper than replacing our flat if I burn it down!

Off to feed my boobie boy.

Cassie, do a Google search on "nipple shield". There is lots of information.

Although one website says "Milk supply may slowly decline over time if the baby is not well attached." So I guess if attachment is good then there should be no problems?

Most things I've read say you should wean off the shield in just one or two weeks. Hmmm well that hasn't happened with me!

Hi guys!!

I have not been here for ages :doh: I thought I should drop in and say hi and update you on my baby! :D

Baby's DOB: 21 July 2006
Baby's Stats: Weight - Length - Head Circ - 3.6 kg - 51 cm - 36.6 cm
Gender of Baby: Female
Baby's Name: Emma Jessie
Baby's Website: http://hampton.faberex.com/Default.a...th=Baby%20Emma
Health Concerns: None
Notes: Emma was born via emergency C Section after many hours of labour when we realised she was not going to fit through my pelvis!

Emma is now just over 4 weeks old. It has been a very hectic 4 weeks! I had a lot of feeding issues due to flat nipples and was using a shield for the first 3 weeks. I was also expressing at every feed and giving ebm because I could just not give her enough just form the breast. It was exhausting! After a lot of practising and help from a lactation consultant (from the local early childhood centre) I was finally able to get Emma to attach without the shield for the first time ever and have not needed the shield since! I don't know why but one day she just got it. :dance: She was also a very slow feeder and sometimes we would be sitting there for 1 and a half hours and she was still hungry which was pretty frustrating. I would need to wake her 4-5 times each feed :mad: Luckily her sucking seems to be getting better and faster and I also think I have more milk now so these days it's taking only 30 to 40 minutes per feed. Last check she was 3.8 kg and 53 cm so at least she is growing! Overall things are going well. I am tired a lot of the time but I think I am getting used to the lack of sleep! At least she only wakes once in the middle of the night (unlike when we first came home and there would be at least two late night feeds )

It's so great to hear how everyones going with their babies I will try to be less of a lurker

Kylie

Hi Kylie, I have added your details to the front page for you.

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Bubs- wow you seem to be doing so much, i bet Danielle was so tired. Today Charlotte has been sleepy, we went out to my opa's for lunch and then went to the local factory outlets which were crap, she is asleep in her bed at the moment, she has been sleeping in their most of the time during the night and sleeping in her seing during theday.i think my supply has started to build up again. YAY.:)

kyliealysha- Welcome back and congrates on the birth of Emma.

Cassie- i too have nearly burnt down the house, i did with Madisons bottles when she was younger, i has a tea- towel too close to the stove and that caught on fire when i was trying to put her to sleep, Lucky for those smoke alarms.

Fee- Charlotte has not laughed yet, i think its too early, i think she is starting to smile still i don't know if its wind or not.

Well we had out 4 week check up yesterday
Weigh tbirth- 3.29kgs 4 weeks- 3.69kgs
Height, birth- 48cms- 4 weeks- 51.5cms
So she is growing, i can see it too, its funny because she weighs in nearly what Madison was born at and i can never remember Madison being that small. We have had a few restless nights lately but she has gone down alright tonight so hopefully she will sleep well tonight, i am going to give her a top up feed before i go to bed.

I hope everyone is enjoying their weekend:)

Hi Kylie & Emma - welcome back - I wondered how you went -congratulations of your little girl.

Thanks Fee will have a look for information on Google. I had a look at your Yahoo site with the photos of Cooper he is soooooo cute and has some of the same things as Dylan, like the rocker and 'hoodie' and they seem to do similar things in photos or more likely that we have taken similar photos. You look great too not at all like you had a baby a month ago, I still have a floppy belly which sticks out a bit.

KMH Yay for Charlotte's stats.

Welcome back Kylie.

Hi All - so much to catch up on!

vomits after feedingBen has the tendency to power spew after feeds - I spoke to the Comm Health Nurse and she suggested sitting him up very slowly after a feed , not patting or rubbing his back - as this can encourage the spewing, and letting the burps come up on their own. It has really helped - have to wait a while for burps - she said 10 mins, doen't usually take that long, but it makes the feed longer as I do it ANY time he detaches from the nipple, but its better than being drenched in vomit! It is incredible how quickly Ben can create a load of washing! (seconds!!)
I had a big cry last week after being spewed on for the gazillionth time (well it felt like it!) and DH asked me what was wrong and I told him I was fed up with being spewed on. So in his Blokey way he solved the problem and said lets put him on formula - then I can feed him too. Of course I took this all the wrong way, thought DH was trying to make me feel guilty and started bawling my eyes out...We sorted it out and I told Dh all he needed to do was give me a hug and offer to help clean up.

Fee Ben occasionally does the laugh thing too, also in his sleep with a smile...it sounds gorgeous! I don't know if it's wind or if he's told himself a joke...:p

Does any one else have tailbone pain? Mine has been sore since labour and when I sit to feed Ben after a while it aches like a big bruise. Think I may need to see the physio.

Yesterday, and the night before, Ben was really unsettled - fed every two hours and wouldn't sleep alot, then last night he had two 5 hour sleeps - so I woke up in pain this morning with EEEnormous pammies. I reckon he was reacting to the coffee I had on Friday (a girls got to have a vice!) - or he's going through a growing stage.

Hopefully I will see the Comm health nurse this week and I can find out just how much growing he has done.
Enjoy the rest of your weekend everyone - I'm hoping to get out this afternoon for a girlfriend's birthday.

Cooper graduated into Huggies Infant nappies over the weekend. Also we bought more 000 clothes for him. I don't think he has many 0000 outfits that still fit. There are a couple but not many. At his 4 week check up he was 57 cm – so he's growing quite tall I think!

It was our longest time out of the house yesterday. I think we were out from about 9.30 am until 5.00 pm. We went to DH's parents for about 20 minutes, then K-Mart, then off to my parents' house for lunch and after that a quick visit to my friend's place.

Cooper is usually really good and really sleep when we're out and about. But he was a little grizzly at mum and dad's and wanted to be fed every 2 hours. Well actually he was not that grizzly but he wouldn't sleep!!! By the time we visited my friend late in the afternoon he was overtired I think. He was crying and Mark couldn't settle him. So we popped him in the car and decided to go home. He screamed blue murder as we were backing out of the carpark. I have never heard him scream like that before! Then about 2 seconds later he was out like a light and slept all the way home!!! I fed him as soon as we walked in the door and then he was fast asleep again after that and next woke about 5 hours later.

kyliealysha – Hi Kylie, nice to see you hear again! Glad to hear you're still going well without the nipple shield. Wish I could give mine up that easily!

kmh – Sorry to hear Charlotte has had some restless nights. Hope they stop for you!

Cassie – Thanks for the compliments of Cooper – we think he is very cute too! And don't worry – my belly is a bit floppy and still sticks out a bit compared to my pre-pregnancy belly!

boybump – How's your tailbone pain? I haven't had that. I hope it goes away for you soon.

Tulip – I love the photo of Lucas in his rocker with the bottle! So cute. That is a nice rocker too. I like it. Regarding contraception – we'll probably just use condoms.

Cassie – we start our talks/Mother’s Group next Monday. Our first one is on settling too. I hope it’s as good as yours was.

Roya – Danielle does this to me too. On Saturday she had about 3 catnaps for about 20 minutes for the whole day from about 7am to 9pm. She was grizzly the whole day but yesterday all she wanted to do was eat and then go to sleep. We have those long sleepy feeds about 8pm every night. She wants something before she goes to bed but it takes forever so I take it from her and she grizzles and then goes to sleep. They are so annoying! The other night I did hear her do a few noises that woke me up about 11pm and 12am but she didn’t cry out for a feed until 1.30am.

Fee – I’m not sure if Danielle’s a laugh either. She does this weird sound with a sort of a smile. I’m not sure what she’s doing or thinking. Danielle has had those days too and those blue murder screams are horrible and make me want to cry. Cooper must have been drained. How was he the next day?

Kylie – you are so lucky that they found out about Emma not fitting through your pelvis. I apparently have the same problem but I went through with a vaginal birth but had complications at the end with Danielle being stuck and being twisted and pulled from me. She ended up with a broken shoulder bone but she’s fine now and been given the all clear.

Kel – yay for your milk supply!! I’m thinking about giving up as I love going out with her and we have such hectic lives even before then. I think that’s probably why it’s really dropped off for me and I always hated the thought of Bfing in public. Charlotte’s doing very well!!

Cle – don’t you love your hormones!! I try now to bite my lip now but it’s so hard at times. Sorry no pain in my tailbone. Sounds like Ben’s going thru a growing stage!!

Tanya – we’ve decided for condoms for now too. I didn’t want the hormones that are in the pills to go into the breast milk which does happen but there is no research that shows it’s harmful but I don’t want to risk it. I had a bit of a lecture at the doctors the other day about using just condoms about then not being 100% safe but is anything?? I wanted to have a go at him but decided to just sit there and nod. With the mini pill you only have a 3 hour span to remember to take it compared to the pill which has a 12 hour span. Too risky for me too!! Lucas is just beautiful!!

We had a good day on Saturday. The Baby Expo was great!! Got heaps of freebies!! I’ve learnt from a MW at the expo that I need to have pelvic xrays before I have our next one to see if my pelvis is big enough or if Danielle was just presenting funny and that’s why we have troubles. At least someone explained things to me and not just saying I need a Caesar. But I did get some sad news. I found out that my SIL had a miscarriage between last Christmas and New Year. She told me and our other friend that went with us over a coffee while I fed Danielle. She didn’t tell me she was pregnant but for some reason on New Year’s Eve I got the feeling she was but she was actually loosing right then. She found out Christmas Eve on a home test but a few days later she started to bleed and lost it. She said she didn’t want to tell me as I was only 11 weeks at Christmas and 12 weeks at New Year and she didn’t want to upset me as I lost one before Danielle. I don’t know if I should feel upset or angry that she tiptoed around me. But I’m glad she has told me now. She would’ve been due about now if she carried. It’s so sad that I couldn’t been there for her the way she was with me.

Ken and I had a massive fight again on Friday. He started at me about not cleaning the house and that the house looks like a pigsty. I lashed back and told him it quit his job and look after Danielle fulltime and you see what it’s like. I cried and cried and cried. After I washed Danielle and started to serve dinner he came in with her and gave me a massive hug and said he was sorry with tears running down his face. He felt so guilty that he has helped me clean up the house over the weekend and helped with night nappy changes while I’ve been getting her bottle ready. I think he realised over the weekend when I’ve left him to look after her for a while while I did something else that it’s not that easy. Yesterday we went out for breakfast with just the 3 of us (Danielle sleeping luckily) to a place just up the road which was lovely.

Enough bad news – I got good news from my brother – he’s off his charges!! Apparently there’s not enough evidence that he did it and the girl’s story keeps changing so they’ve dropped the charges!! It becomes official this Thursday. He’s back to himself again!! So so happy!!

Danielle’s checkup went OK with the Health Nurse. She came up with the same as the doctor:

Weight – 4.74 kilos or 10lbs 7oz
Height – 54cm
Head – 37cm

She thinks they measured her wrong at birth but that’s definitely the measurements. She doesn’t smile that much if any at all which the nurse was concerned about but she does things that a 3 month old would do like suck her hand and reconise her hand which she did infront of the nurse. I hope there’s nothing wrong with her. She’s made me all concerned now. When did your babies start smiling heaps? She also seems to think that she’s got a lazy eye. Her eyes aren’t central if that makes sense and it could be a lazy eye. If it’s not normal by 3 months she’s being shipped off to a specialist. She’s made me so worried things aren’t right. I’ve been trying to notice things more but her smiling doesn’t happen – she just stares at me and her eyes are off center.

At least she sleeps well at night and even puts herself to sleep. I feed her and burp her, put her in her cradle awake and she puts herself to sleep after about 15 minutes! She’s lovely in that way I don’t really settle her too much at all!! That’s one thing I’ve learnt over the last few expos – that they need to learn to put themselves to sleep. Danielle does it perfectly!!

I better go. Sorry it’s so long – so much to say! Off to physio today to see if I'm going back into shape the right way!!

Have a great day!!

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Bubs- Don't worry about Danielle not smilling much, she will do it in her own time, i have a lazy eye, i had to have an op on it when i was a baby but its all good now, though i can not go crossed eyed. Have you decicded to put Danielle on the bottle all the time, if its easier for you then you do it, Madison wasn't b/f had she is doing well, i don't mind feeding when i am out. Thats good the Ken has worked out how much you do around the house, Tim has always said what ever i can do it great, he dosn't mind helping out around the house, which is good, he cooked tea yesterday has his brothers came up.

Fee- wow cooper is tall, Charlotte was 51.5cms at 4 weeks, she still fits in her 0000 clothes well, expect bonds jumpsuits she is in 000. She will also be in newborn nappies for a while yet as she only weighed in at 3.6kgs on friday. We are still getting restless nights i don't know why. Charlotte cyed like that last night, i thought she wanted to be feed expect she had alot of wind, poor thing.

Tulip- Lucas could be going through a growth spurt. i hope he sleeps longer for you soon. Also for contraception you can get the implant that goes into your arm and that works for 3 years, i am going to ask about that one.

Last night Charlotte woke up after an 1hr crying Tim got her up and we thought she was hungry (i feed her 1hr before that) so i feed her again, only to her not attching and screaming, I started to cry as i was so tired and i could not settle her, so Tim took her and the poor thing had so much wind, after that she took a good few hours to get her back to sleep, and she has been sleeping well today.:)

Hi Beautiful Girls!

Well today Rob went back to work!:eek: I have been dreading this day for over a week...last night I was so ****ty and short tempered as I was worrying myself sick that I wouldnt be able to manage on my own...I even went and had a shower so that I could cry and cry without Rob knowing...for some reason I didnt want to worry him! But so far Jensen and I are doing pretty well...I guess the one thing that really scares me is that Rob has been doing one of the night feeds with ebm...but now I have to do it all on my own...and Jensen feeds every 2 1/2 hours at night at the moment....so fingers crossed that I manage to get some sleep during the day....ohh and the other thing is that Jensen still seems to rip the ends off my nipples...and they bloody kill by the end of the day!!! Ouch!!!!
One a better note! I have found that sitting and bouncing on a fit ball when he wont settle is AMAZING...he looooooves it!!!! And settles straight away...so give this a go girls if your bubs has wind!
Does anyone else who has a boy find that the pee on you all the time!!! Our MD said to use a hair dryer on low/warm to dry his bum and bits...and Jensen loves it...he almost smiles...but as soon as I turn it off...he just pees ALL over the place...lol!!! Its like Ahhhhhhhhhhhh...lol!! Funny boy!
Trish- hmmm contraception!! Well Im still to scared to get my hoo haa out...poor Rob! But I think we might start in a couple of weeks and I guess we will use condoms too.

Kel- Your amazing honey! And your doing a wonderful job being a new Mum and wife... I think as we all now know...nothing is as easy as it seems....and at times we all need help from our DH's...I find with Rob that I have to ask...and then hes happy to help...but hes not very intuative (spel)... he dosent see all the washing and think to put a load on...stuff like that...so Kel I do know how it feels babe! Glad to hear the good news re your brother!

Em...thinking of you and your friends- hope your ok...

Fee- Wow!!! 5 hour sleep..you lucky bugger!!!! Whats the secret?????? I cant seem to get Jensen to sleep for more than 3 hours and thats pusing it!!!

Cas- thank for the tip re stroking the head....it worked for me last night at 3.20am...I thought of you and smiled when it worked:)

ok.. well better go and have some lunch...before he wakes up!
love Cyn

Bubseykel – Cooper is great at self-settling at night too. But only at night. For the last 2 weeks or so he's been terrible at it during the day! I have to put him to sleep in the Baby Bjorn. The mornings are the worst. He's finally asleep in his cot now.

About smiling … Cooper has done a smile type of thing since birth but it was obviously a wind smile. I believe it became a real smile at 2 weeks. Because his mouth opened up so wide and his whole face lit up – you could really see it in his eyes. He does it a lot more now. But you can't always make him do it. So I wouldn't say he's a really good smiler yet IYKWIM!

kmh – I think DH is hoping Cooper will be very tall. He hopes Cooper will be a great AFL star!!! LOL. DH is tall though – 6'3". I'm a shorty at 5'4". Hope you have some good nights with Charlotte soon.

Boisey we must have posted at the same time!

No secret to getting Cooper to sleep well at night. I have no idea. He's just pretty good at it. He's not so good at sleeping during the day at the moment though. I'm about to go and post about it in a general forum.

Cooper has done a few piddles when he's nappy is off, but not that many. Maybe about 5 times?

hello, this is the first time i am able to post in here. zac was born 19th july he has just gone down for a sleep so i thought i would say hello to everyone

Hi guys,

quick post - total disaster of a day - DH has gastro and Charlie has wind. one screams til he burps, one runs to the toilet ever 1/2 and hour and moans a lot........

Still feeling pretty low, wish could get some sleep then could shake this feeling. DH was playing computer again last night - normally lets me go to bed whilst he watches over Charlie, but not last night, he was too busy with some on line game to get up to the screaming baby - so I had to - p*ssed me off because he has slept in every morning for the last week (when I say sleep in I mean 8am....) least he could do was let me go to bed early - grumpy grumpy grumpy

So I'm hearing you ladies with the DH issues - but I think you're right Cyn - they are happy to do stuff when asked, but it just doesn't occur to them to use their brains.....

Charlie does the laugh thing when he's sleepy - I think it's a laugh - it's not a cry and he smiles - it makes me laugh so much I generally accidentally wake him up.

He also has a wonky eye - it slides inwards when he has really bad wind and that worries me, I don't know if it's bad - it just looks 'orrible.

SICK of visitors!!! we have only had two days since Charlie was born without any visitors. would be alright it they bought coffee and biccies with them, but they expect refreshments upon arrival! the govt should reimburse you for all the milk you use in the first few months due to so many guests. I guess it's nice people care but I just wish they would f*ck off for a while - I'm sick of having to be nice all the time!

sorry for the moody post. Hey to everyone, sounds like you all have it under control to varying degrees - each issue that all of you have I have had at some stage or currently have - so we're not alone!! everything sounds pretty normal I guess

speak soon - Em.

ps: Cle - did you get your kidney stuff sorted? I have tailbone issues still - but normally it's right before I need to do a number 2 - I would say go to a remedial masseur - i went about 3 weeks before Charlie was born and my coxsys (sp?) was out of alignment - the difference once it was fixed was amazing - you should definitley look into it

ps: welcome Chantal! great group - you'll love it in here. and welcome back KylieAlisha!

Hi ladies

Boybump Thanks heaps for the tips about vomiting after feeding I will have to try it out with Dylan's next feed. He spews heaps and I do sit him up quickly and also do pat and rub his back and hardly burps at all so will have to try that out. Will let you know if it works for me.

Tulip Lucas is so gorgeous and I love your photos. The professional ones are amazing. I am going to have professional ones done of Dylan too. On the subject of contraception I am going to ask my obstetrician at my postnatal appointment about diaphragms, has anyone used one before? I am not even sure if you can use one after pregnancy. I just hate condoms sooo much and the pill wreaks havoc on my body, it was great when we were trying to fall pregnant as we didn't have to use anything yay! I am like you too Trish I want about a three year gap between our bubs too.

Fee Dylan is pretty much out of the 0000's now except one pair of pants that still fit, yet lots of his 000's still don't fit him, weird. I suppose it is like women's clothes where sizes vary between shops and labels.

Bubseykel Yay that Danielle's check up went well. Sorry that you have been having a rough time with your DH, sometimes they just don't get that looking after a baby is a full time 24 hour a day job. You are very lucky Danielle can put herself to sleep now, Dylan is still needing to be settled mostly. Hope your mothers group is good. Only half the women turned up today so there was only 8 mums and 9 babies (one set of twins) so I hope it doesn't keep dwindling as I think I would really want it to keep going.

boisey I cry in the shower too when I need a big cry. Glad the stroking thing worked for you too.

Chantal Welcome to the group.

Fraser I hear you on the visitors Em and I am sick of going visiting too, oh well Dylan usually gets presents everytime we go anywhere or have anyone over sooo spoilt.

Must go, bubba with pooey nappy sitting on my lap.