Hi ladies, I was just wondering if anyone has tried chinese medicine/treatment for recurrent miscarriages and had success.
I am trying it at the moment (Iv'e only been going for a week - acupressure and herbal). According to my practitioner I have low energy (Chi) and that is why I keep losing the babies (3 in the last 18 mths) .
I definately feel exhausted since the last miscarriage 6 weeks ago and ache all the time in diferent areas.
Thanks for reading my post and I would appreciate any info,
sorry to hear of all your losses i wanted to say that i am taking herbal tablets at the moement but it is to help me concieve they are called OVULEX my friend took them for a month and fell pregnant straight away so she sold her other 2 tubs and they fell pregnany straight away aswell so i have bought a 6 month supply i am on my first month now so i really hope it works as i have been trying for 10 months now with no success. sorry i couldnt offer any advice on your chinnese medicine but i think anything is worth a go let me no how you get on and hopefully you will get a nice sticky bub.
Thanks for your reply. So sad to see you lost your baby girl at 23 weeks, that must have been heart breaking. I looked up the Ovulex site - sounds very promising.
Thanks it was a very sad time loosing by baby girl i found out at my 20 week scan that she had cists all over her kidneys and no bladder and i had no water around her which meant her lungs would never develop the sadest thing was she was in my tummy all happy with a healthy heartbeat i had to have an injection through my tummy to stop her heart and then give birth 3 days later it was the most awful experience that i wish to never relive but she was so beautiful i have some lovely pictures of her to remember her by that i will treasure forever. sorry i hope you dont mind me telling you my story i am gonna look at the deanna plan i have never heard of this before i feel pregnant with my son harvey and my angel really quicky so i feel like why is it not happening this time. i really hope that this chinnese medicine works i have everything crossed for you that you get a beautiful sticky bub i do think that these herbal treatments are great there is so many sucess i hear about good luck honey.
Hi Munchy, Ive just read your post with tears in my eyes - I am so sorry you had to go through such an awful experience:hugs:
After my first miscarriage (at 10 weeks) I couldnt fall pregnant after 7 mths which was unusual for me because I had fallen pregnant first month with Emily (9 years) and again with the next one. So I looked up the Deanna plan, tried it and it worked that same month. I tried it again after the second miscarriage and fell pregnant the second month.
The OPK's are important especially making sure you use them at the same time every day (not FMU) and realise there can be a gradual darkening of the test line over a few days but wait for the line to go as dark as or darker than the control line to confirm LH surge. You'll ovulate 1 - 2 days later I think.
Its also really important to follow the Deanna plan to the letter - hard work sometimes but worth it! Sorry if Ive rattled on a bit
I too am very interested to hear how the acupuncture treatments go. My GP is an acupuncturist and I have been tossing up asking him about possible treatments. I've had acupuncture before and found it uncomfortable (hate needles!) but I did get positive results from ailments at the time (swollen knee & nasty cold).
sjs: So sorry to hear about your m/c's. Three in such a short space of time must be completely devastating and disheartening, I can't imagine how painful it must be for you. Good luck with future pregnancies, may they have successful outcomes!
hilary: good luck with the treatment tomorrow.
munchy: I just read of your experience with m/c.... how awful for you! It made me cry reading it. Thankfully, my baby had already passed, I don't think I would have coped as well if he hadn't.
Thanks for your kind words. I am choked up to hear of your sad loss and send you lots of hugs:hugs: I can't imagine losing a baby at 18 weeks - so sorry.
My Chinese practitioner is using acupressure on me which is like little pulses on the relevant points - dont know if it is as effective as needles - does anyone know?? - certainly is more comfortable! Im also having to brew up a herbal tea which I drink twice a day and also take ginseng tablets.
Curl, I was told all of this would be good to build up my health and strength after the miscarriages.
thanks for your kind words honey, i have printed off the deanna plan and i was reading through it last night looks really good a bit like hard work but if it get to be pregnant then i will try anything the only thing i dont know if i can do is the cough medicine bit did you ever have to do that bit its just i have this thing about medicine i cant swallow it sounds silly i no but it makes me gag so much i can take tablets no problem just not medicine. i am going on holiday on the 3rd of sep to france for 2 weeks so i will start it when i am back from there hopefully i will be pregnant by then but i doubt it. i will need to buy some OPK's as i dont have any they are quite expensive i will buy some when back from hols as cant afford them right now saving also for holiday as we want to do the safari park etc so need quite a bit of money.
Curl
thanks for you message it was very hard to deal with and still get very sad all the time i have been seeing a counsellor as i feel so guilty about the injection i had to have they said if she was born she would have been in a lot of pain and would have died within min so i no the injection was for the best but at the same time i feel like i shold have protected her its a natraul motherly instinct where we want to protect our baby and i felt like i had failed to do that but the councelling is helping alot i dont think you ever get over it you just learn to carry on with life i am sorry to hear you lost you baby boy at 18 weeks that must have been so hard for you my heart goes out to you honey.
sjs: I don't know about the differences between the types of acupuncture. I did have laser treatment in the acupuncture points when I was a child because of my aversion to needles.
My ex-step-father (complicated story) is a vet and he did an acupuncture course in the 80's and bought a laser as well as the moxa sticks (stinky cigar like thing that heats areas that need extra help) and of course the needles.
This was my introduction to the world of acupuncture and since then I have had it performed on me. I don't remember the laser too much except for the sound of the motor (high pitch eeee), needles I do because of the ouch and I've had acupressure done too but it hadn't come to mind until you mentioned it. I know that if I'm feeling ill in the car for instance that if I put heavy pressure in a certain place on my face or hand, it illeviates the icky feeling.
munchy: I do understand your need to protect your baby but there was nothing you could have done in your circumstances. I feel guilty that my body didn't keep my baby alive, silly I know, because nobody could have prevented it. I hope your councelling sessions are of a benefit. I've tossed up the idea many times.
My 3 year old had a urinary tract infection last week and would scream in agony when she went to the toilet. Poor little bugger, I had to hold her down on the seat! I just wanted to take the hurt away but it had to run its course. She's now all okay. Not the same situation I know by a long shot but it was awful.
Sometimes it takes a while for the effects to take hold with any of the alternative therapies. I had a bowen therapy session last Thursday to help me with coming to terms with m/c and I felt quite weary afterwards. My mother noticed a change in me on Friday night like a lifting of the aura or something as new-agey.
The next session you have Hilary will surely make a bigger impact and hopefully you will notice the difference within yourself. Also, don't forget to drink lots of water as the treatments tend to take a lot out of you without you realising.... that sounded bossy I know but its what I've always been told after any kind of treatment.
glad to hear your little girl is better but i no what you mean you wish you could take the pain away for them but as long as they no we are there for them giving them the cuddles and the kisses then thats what counts. as to the counselling it took me a yr to finally get the corrage to go see one after loosing my baby girl i was more short tempered blaming myself alot and i would sit in a day dream all the time and just felt really crap about life in general but the counselling has definatly helped i felt that going to counselling would mean that there was something wrong with me like i had a problem but its not there is so many people that do it so if you want to see one then go for it honey its worth a try take care
Hi ladies, just thought I'd fill you in on how I'm going with the Chinese treatments. After two weeks of going every day (1 hour of acupressure/heat lamp) and heaps of herbs (incl. 1400mg ginseng) I'm starting to feel different - in a good way. I have a clearer head, not as much depression and much more energy. After the treatments I feel "activity' in my uterus which is interesting and I have noticed an increase in EWCM during ovulation. I also had strong mischelsmitz (ovulation pain) for the first time in a long time.
Hilary - your treatment sounds interesting too - do you have to take any ginseng? I find that I don't sleep very well at night because its making me sooo alert!
Curl - Im happy to hear you had some relief from your treatment and you sound like a very strong lady to cope this well.
munchy: I'm very pleased that councelling is working for you. We saw a grief councellor shortly after finding out there was no heartbeat and I didn't like the feeling of being scrutinised... if that makes sense. She was a lovely lady and tried her best to speak with both myself and DH but we had our girls with us and they were bored and not understanding why we were at the hospital, plus we just heard the dreaded news less than an hour beforehand. We will again see someone when we find out any news as to what went wrong with the pregnancy on 27th October. The hospital was going to run full pathology and send off a sample (sounds very clinical (his earlobe))for genetic testing and the results should be back by then. I am certain that this day will be extremely painful for us and perhaps some form of therapy will help then but I don't feel ready just yet. Being able to talk or write about what I've been going through has been a huge assistance for me as many people don't recognise a pregnancy unless it has a positive outcome.
sjs: I'm pleased to hear the treatments are working for you. Have you mentioned the effects of ginseng on your sleep to your practitioner? Perhaps taking a smaller dosage or not taking it after a certain time will help... like with coffee.
As for me coping... I have to be strong because of my girls. I hate crying in front of them, especially Jazmin as she brings me tissues and says 'mummy's sad', which breaks my heart. She was looking forward to having a baby brother (I knew instinctively the sex and was correct) and she would kiss my stomach. Shortly after the m/c she said something about a baby brother and I had to explain that he died. Jazmin then kissed my stomach and said 'he'll be back mummy, don't worry'. She's only 3, where do they get this from???
Best of luck to all of us with TTC and don't forget to have fun with it
i am ok the TTC isnt going to well i think my af is on its way which is really disapointing but i will just keep trying but as my af's have been abit all over the place i am hoping they will settle down and get back on track so i no roughly when i am ovulating. i am glad to hear you are noticing a difference with this chinnese medicine i get ovulating pains i think i never used to but since loosing my little girl i seem to get them i get pains on either side of my stomache i call it overy ache well me and my friends do but sometime when i get it, it hurts to have sex but i have my fingers crossed for us all.
Curl
as to the counselling i think you should only do it when you feel ready and like you say you are not ready yet and that is fine coming on this site really does help knowing that people feel the same as you and have gone through similar experiances but it will take time to grieve i think its one of the hardest things to do and i just read about you DD kissing your tummy how sweet my son used to put his ear to my tummy and after loosing her i came out of the bath and he put his head to my tummy and said that he could hear the baby i just burst into tears cos i new she wasnt there anymore he was 3 at the time but i have now explained everything to him it took me a yr to do it he new that the baby had gone but thats all i said i have now shown him the pictures of his sister and told him her name and told him why i light the pink candle all the time he was very understanding and asked a lot of questions but i felt so good about getting out as i want to be very open with him as my parents were with me my counsellor was the onw who said its amazing what kids pick up on and how much they understand as i thought he might have been to young but he is 4 now and i told him on the yr anniversary of loosing her but i do get upset that he doesnt have a brother or sister to play with i feel guilty but i just hope he will one day. sorry to ramble on i hope you dont mind.
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Hi ladies, I was just wondering if anyone has tried chinese medicine/treatment for recurrent miscarriages and had success. 
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I know but its what I've always been told after any kind of treatment.
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