Trying to Conceive after Miscarriage/Loss April/May 2009

[jen805]

I love you back, MO3B!!! xoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxo



Will be back later for persies...

[jen805]

I hate Mondays! Especially Mondays! I'm also really bad with change... I've PM'd you 3 times, Flowerchild... sorry, just had to get it out!



I've only got a few minutes, I have to run to the grocery store before DS's lunch, as I had nothing to pack him! So this will be brief, but I'll be back later for more!



charm--Hope the Preseed works and gets the job done!



boble--You're so sweet to offer that deal, unfortunately and this is going to sound very "Deal or No Deal"-ish, but.... NO DEAL! More spotting today, cramps, and major pms... RB will be here today full charge no matter what... Big *hugs* cycle bud, looks like we're just a couple days apart (again!)



sally-- Thanks, you did it! Great job! Woo-hoo for the +OPK, as well! Saying prayers for your Pearl! Hey, just want to add that you should also chart the -OPK's, as well! Then about the BD question, I've read that if there's no issues with DH's swimmers, then there's no reason why you can't BD everyday. The more opportunity the better, I say! If there are issues with sperm function or supply, tho, then I understand the need to have a day or two in-between for those little to restock!



Sorry, I know that was brief, but I'll be back later for the rest! Gotta go!

[Cherished]

Morning friends

Jen I can see you are spotting God dam RB! I mustn't have stalked your chart last night in the 10 mins I had to go through all those post I missed!

Sally I think many dr's recommend bd'ing every 2nd day but as Shortcake and Jen said everyday is fine if dh's swimmers don't have a supply problem. The cycle we got pg we had a bd'ing marathon! But we did have a day break (which happened to be the day before the +OPK) This cycle we are going to bd the day we get the +OPK and the day after (which seem to be the W & EW CM days) and try to leave a couple of days break before then. I am excited for you honey I hope you get your BFP. Whilst the tww can drive you insane it is still so exciting... Like waiting for the best present in the world!

I'm just wondering if our pg friends are easily able to disable their tickers (in their signature or something)??? It would be horrible if we never hear from them again... Girls if you are lerking please drop in and say hello or can you do a group pm to us if you add us as your friends (if we're not already your friend) to let us know how you are going? Or are pm's moderated also? I'm still not completely sure of all the bb functions!

[mollycat]

to the newbies - I'm so sorry that you've had to join this thread. You've found a wonderful place for support. The ladies in this thread have offered so much to me over the last 18 months, without them, I would be a total mess. They have laughed with me and cried with me, they have sympathised with me and more importantly shown me that my feelings are normal and natural. Yes, it is normal that you feel jealous about other being people becoming pregnant. although it's not a normal jealous feeling, it's more wishing that you were pregnant too. I hope and that your time in this thread is short and that you are able to move over to the PAML (pregnancy after miscarriage and loss) thread shortly.

MO3B - back at you. Love ya. Hope all's well down the bottom of the country. Catch up soon.

Jen - GRRRRRR - I'm sure that wasn't in our plan. You were supposed to join me in PAML. Remember "I believe in miracles" There's a chair waiting with your name on it when you're ready. Thanks for the link to that song, it was beautiful.

Cherished - Feel free to pop over to PAML and catch up with us there.

Shortcake - Sorry that RB has shown up at your place too. As I said to Jen - miracles can and do happen. Hold on to that thought. I was only told at the beginning of this month that I wouldn't fall pg without IVF. Little did I know at the time I already was.

Sally - We bd every second day this month, and on my chart (which doesn't show up here) it shows bd about 2 days before O and the day after O, so not sure which one of them worked. I also get really bad O pains so know when I'm about to O. (hope that helps)

Anyway, running out of time awfully fast, starting work in half an hour and so much still to do. I'll try to pop in and keep an eye on this thread.

[Razzberry]

Morning all,

Shortcake - I used clomid and would totally recommend it, but if you know you are ovulating every month and quite regulary then I don't think it would make much difference as its not the clomid that makes you pregnant, it just makes you ovulate (well that's what it is supposed to do anyway). Not sure of success rates but worked for me first time! It is normally the first line in fertility treatment before more invasive, expensive procedures. Talk to your Doc and they may have some more answers for you. Big hugs, I know the waiting is terrible!

Cherished - It is easy to disable the signature so don't worry Ill still hang around to encourage you all! I would have disabled it sooner had I known people were getting upset but I can totally understand how other people feel about it. For me, it gave me hope but I know for others it is upsetting. Sorry to anyone I have offended xoxoxox

Welcome to the newbies - I was in your place not too long ago and this forum has been a constant source of encouragement. I wish you weren't here, but we will support you all the way!

AFM - Ob did a scan last night and said he cann't see ANY fluid on the baby's neck! Yay, so happy at the moment, this little girly is such a fighter, still have to have more tests and scans but its looking a lot more positive - In fact fantastic!

[smilanatu]

Hey Gurlies...

O Happy Monday...NOT!!!

Hope everyone had a pleasant weekend...

Seems with every log in these days there are new rules and regulations...I apologize if I've offended anyone with a ticker or post...it's just that with all the support you've given me I guess I took for granted everyone would be thrilled to see the ticker moving right along...anyway...

Let's hope this is the month everyone moves to PAML!

[Mel1979]

Morning all,

Shortcake - I used clomid and would totally recommend it, but if you know you are ovulating every month and quite regulary then I don't think it would make much difference as its not the clomid that makes you pregnant, it just makes you ovulate (well that's what it is supposed to do anyway). Not sure of success rates but worked for me first time! It is normally the first line in fertility treatment before more invasive, expensive procedures. Talk to your Doc and they may have some more answers for you. Big hugs, I know the waiting is terrible!

Cherished - It is easy to disable the signature so don't worry Ill still hang around to encourage you all! I would have disabled it sooner had I known people were getting upset but I can totally understand how other people feel about it. For me, it gave me hope but I know for others it is upsetting. Sorry to anyone I have offended xoxoxox

Welcome to the newbies - I was in your place not too long ago and this forum has been a constant source of encouragement. I wish you weren't here, but we will support you all the way!

AFM - Ob did a scan last night and said he cann't see ANY fluid on the baby's neck! Yay, so happy at the moment, this little girly is such a fighter, still have to have more tests and scans but its looking a lot more positive - In fact fantastic!

erybery - Woo hoo! That is such great news!

Don't worry girls, I will still be lurking and posting as well, I couldn't bear to leave you all!

[Mel1979]

I'm also sorry if I offended anyone with my ticker (although it has only been there a few days). I didn't actually know I could turn it off or I would have. I have already said I will only be lurking here and posting persies and won't post anything about myself as I am very conscious of making anyone feel sad or uncomfortable as much as I know you girls are all happy for me. I am happy to pm anyone (Jen) if they want or you can find updates on me on the PAML thread. I just don't want to leave this thread altogether as you ladies have been such a support system to me and I want to hang around and see you all get your BFP's

mrzbay - I'm so sorry you got a false positive, how cruel As it is only 10DPO I am still crossing my fingers for you though!

Will try to BBL for more persies.

[mrzbaby]

Well my few days of happiness and joy have crashed around me and I got back a BFN this morning still only 10dpo. I used a pregnosis clear test and I read on the weekend ( in the instructions) that the test could give false positives from clomid and I rang the company yesterday ( they were very very helpful suprisingly!and they said if I am on clomid the best chance of finding out if I am UTD is either AF late and then POAS and take that result as real or a blood test.
Rang FS and he said i just have to hang in their till af DUE THEN WE DO THE BLOOD TEST. hE DOESN'T LIKE TESTIING BEFORE af AS SOMETIMES THINGS DON'T (sorry it is in Upercase I have to go to work and can't retype it not yelling promise ) go well with the cells and the baby dosen't form and you still get a AF on the day due or one or two days later... - apparently very common.... So no BT and have to wait but to be honest apart from a minor amount of cramping ( ovary area cramping so a little worried ) and me turning into Mrs Mega Biarch !! (not normal for me...I have no other signs so I think the clomid, may have made me O but it has also give me a false result.
So sorry i don't have some happy news for everyone.... I sit here and wait ........Next test Sunday ( sorry Jen but then that would take me past when AF is due and I can have a more reliable answer, I am also too scraed to put my positive on the test in case it jinxs me )... Em

[Cherished]

Mrzbaby So sorry! I had no idea you could get a false positive (regardless of taking any meds)... I think it's great that you know now and you can try to relax more over the ttw untill either you do or don't get af 'then' get excited iykwim. It's also great info for anyone else on clomid to not test early (even though that is nearly impossible when ttc!) Personally I like to wait untill at least af is due anyway. Well my fingers are still crossed for you honey

[jen805]

Sorry mods, but I'm really missing seeing those tickers.... It's just so disheartening.... it's like coming home and the couch being gone... the one comfortable spot in the house, KWIM?



Ok, girls... going to try to cheerfully continue on with the persies that I didn't finish before, but I'm just not feeling that cheerful, so bear with me....

I would like to mention first though, and I can only speak for myself, to all those proud BFP'ers, that none of you have EVER offended me in any way, shape or form! So please, no apologies from any of you! You have all truly inspired me, and have given me the ONLY hope I have in my life, and I truly just have to say that I think it's a shame. (Please no disrespect to the mods is intended, it's just really upsetting to me)



sparkles--Glad to hear the bleeding has slowed. I also had a natural m/c, bled for 7 days, then had a 25 day cycle on that first cycle after. HTH!



Shortcake--Wow, you had your net up and running quick--a truly dedicated bb'er! lol... Hope you're enjoying your new house despite it's first RUDE unwanted visitor! D@mn RB!



smi--I hate Monday, and change, and RB, and change, and RB--but mostly change! It's just not the same, is it? I'm glad you enjoyed the sunshine I sent your way! Can I send you some wind next?



susie-- I'm so very sorry for your loss, but if you're in search for like-minded people that can only think of getting pg, then you're in the right place! I look forward to sharing your journey!



Lu Lu-- I'm glad our little recruit, boble, has introduced you to this fabulous thread and these amazing women! I wish you the best of luck today with your BT results!

[jen805]

Sorry, got a phone call and didn't want to lose that post... part 2....



Greenslw--Sorry you're feeling cr@ppy! I'm saying lots of prayers that the end result will justify the pain it took to get you there! Big *hugs*



Mannie--Thanks for the info! But actually, thanks to Mel's blocked tubes (sorry, Mel, not that I appreciate that yours were blocked, but YKWIM) I did a little research and read about the dye... I'm planning on asking my dr. about both, especially since Mel's tubes were blocked for over a year, and she never had any indication that there was a problem! I hope your TWW is quick and ends with a BFP!



meh--Hang onto that inspirational grateful feeling for being happy with what you have, it's a blessing! Belated happy birthday to your DS!



teme-- I'm sorry for your loss and pray that you find comfort and support among these amazing women! *hugs*



cherished--Welcome back from camping! We missed you! Best of luck with your upcoming shag-a-thon and get ready to catch this



Mel & Hannah--Still super excited for you both! No worries, I'll come snooping in PAML to watch those tickers move along--I don't want to miss it!



erybery--What a fabulous miracle you've got growing inside you! I'm so, so, so happy for you! I would just like to reiterate what I said before, you've done nothing offensive, and I'm sorry that you've had to take down your ticker while your little trooper is so deserving of it! Big *hugs* and bellyrubs for that amazing little girl of yours!



Big for my beautiful friend, mollycat! I think I'm the most upset about not seeing yours!



mrzbaby--I'm so sorry, honey! At 10 DPO it's not over yet, tho... still sending positive your way!

[Shortcake]

Hello lovely ladies!

First and foremost I must say that I quite miss seeing all the tickers. For me that was hope! It was wonderful seeing ladies like me had gotten through it and are now pregnant or have a little one. Please ladies do not apologize like Jen said you have done nothing wrong.

mrzbaby- I'm so sorry for the bad news. But at least you know now and its too early to know but I'm praying you get your BFP this month.

erybery- I'm so happy for you! I'm glad your little girl is doing wonderful such great news!

Jen- I know what you mean about not seeing the tickers. Its so sad and down in here And nope I had to get the internet fast. I could not go without BB!

Cherished, MO3B, smi, Mollycat, Charm, Mel, Chappas, and everyone else thinking of you!


AFM- Waiting for rotten RB to go away. I'm going to lay down for awhile major cramps and a headache thanks so much RB. Hope everyone else is well!

[sallyk61]

Eryberry - That is Brillaint news!!! She is a little fighter! COngratulations!

Mrzbaby - Its not over yet! DPO 10 is pretty early so you still have a chance! GOod luck!

Shortcake - Maybe RB is being extra cruel so you dont forget her when you dont have her for the next 9 months!

Jen- Thanks for the advice!

AFM - I had another very light + OPK this morning is that normal?

Being back at work is a little sad but Im looking forward to tomorrow seeing my kiddies and my new kiddies too!!

[jen805]

RB has arrived, and I'm drinking a rum and coke! Salute!

[Inanna]

There have been very very few times on Belly Belly that I have felt such a feeling of disgrace as I have in the past 12 hours.

My inbox was full to over flowing with thanks from members with regard to the tickers. It was full of thanks for taking steps to enforce this long standing position on turning off tickers in the M & L forums & in the LTTC forums.

There was complaint from only 1 member in a PM and one Member in the other forums.

I find it appalling that such a simple request is treated with such annoyance and lack of kindness and understanding by some of the posters in this forum. You are all afforded the respect that is given to all women who have suffered loss - you all ask for understanding, you all ask for your babies to be remembered. You have a beautiful forum for this to happen along with support, love and friendship.

You are kindly asked to turn off pregnancy tickers as MANY (yes I am talking loudly) women are finding it very uncomfortable when they have suffered a loss.

Instead of walking for a few minutes in their shoes you complain in this thread and one member in PM's to me. I find this disgraceful that you cannot think outside your own circle.

If you don't feel comfortable with this - then you will need to get over it or move on. Because our role is to ensure safety and kindness to the majority - not to pander to those who don't feel it's comfy any more because they cannot show a pregnancy ticker.

Not everyone feels like you (the minority who are complaining) do. Many women find it reignites their sadness. You can look at pregnancy tickers until the cows come home in other forums on this site to give you encouragement. But in here it's not okay as it causes some women pain.

As for taking offence at not posting with nothing more than emoticons - that is the way it is also. Our job is long and time consuming. We get little kudos and have the very difficult job of enforcing the guidelines - most members don't have an issue with toeing the line - just as we do in all other areas of our life. All communities have morays and rules. As a member of this forum you are obliged to follow the rules.

Again I have never felt such disgrace at people being unable to feel anothers pain - mostly because losing babies usually teaches compassion and grace. I hope that you can move along, accept this is the way it is and continue to support one another.

Any more comments in this thread complaining about this will be removed and infracted.

[nicjay]

Hi all you lovely ladies

Shortcake - Stupid RB!! I'm sorry this wasn't your month. And I just wanted to post to you about Clomid - I have done quite a few cycles of Clomid and personally if you are ovulating on your own with good hormone levels I would not take it. It doesn't always come without side effects, for me it was terrible depression, and also it actually does make you slightly less fertile. It thickens CM making it more difficult for sperm to penetrate and also can adversely affect your lining - I had lining checked when on it and it was heaps thinner than when I was on FSH injections for my IVF cycle. I also got a largish cyst on one ovary whilst taking it. Don't get me wrong, it can be a great drug for some people especially if you are not ovulating, but based on my experiences I would not take it without a pretty good reason. Just wanted to give you a perspective from someone who had a series of disasters with it - it is great when it works, but unfortunately it doesn't work for everyone. HTH!

Jen - Oh no not RB again When is she going to get the message?! Good luck with the drs appt

mrzbaby - I'm so sorry! But don't give up hope, you may still get a BFP at the end of this

erybery - Glad to hear the scan went well, that is fab news!

Hi and to everyone else I have missed, thinking of you as always.

And hi and welcome to all the new ladies, I'm so very sorry for your losses but you have found a wonderful place for support here.

I also just wanted to say that I also hope I haven't hurt anyone by displaying my ticker My journey has been such a big part of me over the last 2 years and has forever changed me - I hate to think that I have made anyone's pain any worse. I know that there are those of you in here who are more than happy to see it, but I can also see that it is for the best not to put them in.