to the newbies - I'm so sorry that you've had to join this thread. You've found a wonderful place for support. The ladies in this thread have offered so much to me over the last 18 months, without them, I would be a total mess. They have laughed with me and cried with me, they have sympathised with me and more importantly shown me that my feelings are normal and natural. Yes, it is normal that you feel jealous about other being people becoming pregnant. although it's not a normal jealous feeling, it's more wishing that you were pregnant too. I hope and that your time in this thread is short and that you are able to move over to the PAML (pregnancy after miscarriage and loss) thread shortly.

MO3B - back at you. Love ya. Hope all's well down the bottom of the country. Catch up soon.

Jen - GRRRRRR - I'm sure that wasn't in our plan. You were supposed to join me in PAML. Remember "I believe in miracles" There's a chair waiting with your name on it when you're ready. Thanks for the link to that song, it was beautiful.

Cherished - Feel free to pop over to PAML and catch up with us there.

Shortcake - Sorry that RB has shown up at your place too. As I said to Jen - miracles can and do happen. Hold on to that thought. I was only told at the beginning of this month that I wouldn't fall pg without IVF. Little did I know at the time I already was.

Sally - We bd every second day this month, and on my chart (which doesn't show up here) it shows bd about 2 days before O and the day after O, so not sure which one of them worked. I also get really bad O pains so know when I'm about to O. (hope that helps)

Anyway, running out of time awfully fast, starting work in half an hour and so much still to do. I'll try to pop in and keep an eye on this thread.