wow Ferrals that's great you have found someone so good to help. I'm with you on the wait though - v. hard after waiting so long already. Good luck with the detox - we did something similar a few years back after seeing a naturopath and I'm back on it now - no sugar, no caffeine, no alcohol and for me lots of chicken and fish. Sadly my DH smokes and that is a battle I have not won not even after all these long years makes me v. sad and at times quite angry after all I have been through but it's an addiction and I can't judge as I've never had it. I just wish he'd stop NOW.

Iona-Macca - it is terribly hard at times to hear about other pregnancies, no matter how much you love and care for those friends/family. We started TTC nine years ago. In that time we have been through all our friends having the first, then second, now third children. One couple who fell pregnant right after we started have an 8 year old girl. Every time I see her I can't help thinking of all those hard years we've been through. I find the babies a lot easier than the pregnancies, and usually after the initial announcement, the pregnancies aren't too hard either though there is one at the moment I just can't see at all. I don't think it means you are bad or awful, I just think you've been through a lot of pain and disappointment and grief that a lot of people (luckily) will never have to and so wouldn't understand. That's why this forum is so important for us. We get it.

SammyP -

Kirsten - good to hear you are well and not obsessing too much - it's a hard one, finding the balance. Fingers crossed for you.

Kit - boo I hope it's just BFP hiding ready to surprise you. I hate that feeling of ground hog day - here we go AGAIN. Our lot is to be patient and I've never been v. good at that!

have to dash off - soo late for work but when it involves packing up an office after 4 years you can't blame me. It's like moving house and having to go back to the old place to clean - just makes you want to cry!

Hugs to everyone - TTCaLC - good luck!

Alice x