Yes i do know what to say to the wonderful person you have made my day i am so excited i rang hubby at work like an excited school girl and yelled down the phone i got RAK'ed and he said what the #### thinking i had lost the plot then i explained it to him and he said that's great but can i have some time on the computer to LOL poor thing i don't give him much time on it any more anyway i just emailed sarah my details so she can make me an avatar i cant wait to see what she comes up with.