Trying to Conceive after Miscarriage/Loss - June 2009

[Anila]

hi Sammy, sorry for your loss hun, i do hope u can find some support and comfort here, as for the af, well im still waiting, im cd 42 today since i lost my angel, i had spotting 7 days ago, but nothing since, and right now my boobs have started hurting, i got a bfn today, so i hope it means that af is on the way.

[Jaffaz]

Hi Sammy, So sorry you have to be here. I M/C on the 20/4 (but didn't stop bleeding until 11/5), I am still waiting for AF to arrive (getting very frustrating).


Was wondering if any1 here has taken Primolut? I M/C just before leaving for an OS holiday and my doc gave me Primolut to take with me if a didn't stop bleeding by day 7. Well i didn't and so I took the tablets until the 5/5 when we came home. The tablets did stop the bleeding however when I went off them it started again then finished on 11/5.

No AF since. I am starting to think the meds have stuffed up my cycle. I thought I O'd the weekend B4 last however no sign of AF on her way or BFP.

If any1 has any info on this medication and it's effect on future cycles it would be great. Thanks

[milly5]

Hello ladies!!

coco- I'm pleased that you have some appts lined up, I'm sure it will all happen for you soon now. And so glad that you are feeling better now too.

Anila - could it be implantation? My first cycle post m/c was long - it took almost 2 weeks later to ov than usual, so do you know when you ov'd? It's not over for you yet, you may still be in with a chance!

Greenslw - hope your u/s goes well!

Sammy - my dr told me just to have one normal period (to be sure that everthing had come out - mine was a natural m/c). It did take a bit longer for me to ovulate (see note to Anila above!) because it took a while for all the pg hormones to drop (you won't ovulate while you still have HCG and other hormones in circulation). If you count the start of my cycle as when my hormones had dropped, not when I started bleeding, then my cycle returnted to normal right away. But if you include the bleeding, it was 2 weeks longer it usually is.

Zacsmum - I'm not familiar with that medication, sorry.

AFM - I begin the 2WW.

Chart question: This was the first month I temped. I previously had used CM and calendar, and then had used OPKs, but this month had tried temping and fertility monitor. Fertility monitor was great, and in line with what i had learned previously from CM and OPKs, but temping - my temps are all over the place, and if you look at my temps, you can't tell a difference at all! Has anyone else got a chart that looks like nothing? Or who's really clever with charts that can have a look at it for me? (i'm new on the fertilty friend, so I'm not even sure I have the settings right!)

[Sunny Love]

fingers crossed Milly! I hope its your month!
Sorry I cant help Zacsmum......I know nothing about medications
Update on me: tested 10 minutes ago (not FMU) and got BFN. My face is getting spotty so she is definatly stopping by soon Just wish there was a magic pill to take to make you UTD!

[KM1]

Hi new people, hope ur stay here is short and supportive

Anila you poor thing I keep reading your posts and can feel your frustration coming through- I would be exactly the same, just want to know already! I still have my fingers crossed for you...good luck being patient with your test, is not a virtue I share.

Greens and Smallfry good luck with your appointments, am thinking of you!

AFM feel a bit in limbo, not sure if I am TWW or not as didnt have a normal RB, just 6 weeks of non-stop, every cramp I have I'm thinking hmmm I am O'ing? am BDing every other day anyway- can't hurt right? and DH is happy after so long with RB being a nuisance! Sorry TMI!

[LittleOnes]

milly - all I can suggest re charting temps is to make sure you're doing it the second you wake up and before you even move!!! Try to keep it as close to the same time each day and, if you can't find consistency and are doing it orally, maybe next month try vaginally. I temped vaginally this month and was really surprised to see consistency once I was temping at the same time each day. This was my first month temping. The other thing is that FF will look for more consistency than normal since it is your first month temping so it may not pick up the pattern til quite late. It tried to tell me I O'd at day 23 I think it was but I overrode it because I knew I O'd much earlier. (ps. an uneducated guess would be you maybe O'd on CD11 as there is a temp drop the day before and CM fits in with that day as a possibility as well. Coco is the chart queen tho!)

KM1 - hope you're in the TWW!! It's frustrating not knowing what's happening with your cycle.

sunny - sorry hon... But still, I can't give up for you because AF hasn't arrived yet!

ZacsMum, can't help with the medication from the doc, I haven't heard of it.

anila

AFM - I'm trying to post less in here because I guess I kind of don't fit now. Sort of waiting for doc to confirm everything as well as part of me still doesn't believe it. I hope I see all of you coming into the PAML thread soon. It doesn't seem to be as active as this one but I guess that makes sense in a way.

[coco1411]

hahaha smallfry thanks for the shoutout!

Milly Im not sure what the monitor goes off but I would say you ovulated on day 12-13. I know there is a lower temp at day 10 followed by a rise but the one on day 12 and the following days after that look more accurate!

You will most likely find out tmo on FF. I temp vaginally and I find a better consistancy with it, a clearer pattern what not. I dont use an alarm to wake up, I use my body clock, I find that if i am startled when waking, like with an alarm my temps are alot lower than normal. So I just go off whatever time i get up..its usually the same time within half hour or so each day.

Something you can do to cheat?? Put a temp in for tmo and see if it says you have ovulated...your setting should be on advanced. I have used the OPK setting before also and that is pretty much the same for me, consistant.

good luck!

[milly5]

Hi ladies,

sorry that it's not your month Sunny.

KM1 - fingers crossed for you, I hope your in the 2ww with me!

Thanks Smallfry and coco for your replies.

I think the fertility monitor workds like the OPKs and tests the hormone levels.

I had been reading the Tony Welscher book (can't spell it, but you know the one I mean??) and it did say that if your EWCM comes in a big glob (as does mine) that it can seem a bit dry afterwards (as I do - sorry if TMI), so before I had the OPKs DH and were BD and stopping too early - before ov, so that was the good think about the OPKs, that we were able to time it abit better.
I had thought about temping vaginally, but isn't it a bit cold in the morning - LOL! I work some funny hours and get up quite early so can't always temp at the same time, which is why I hadn't done it before. I have been temping anywhere between 4.00 and 6.00 am workdays, and boy do I love a day off, sleep in to 7.30 or even 8.00!
I did buy a thermometer with only 1 dec place, so do I need to get a more accurate one perhaps (that's why I switched it to F rather that C, because the celcius chart had 2 dec places).
I think I ov'd on day 14 as I had pain some pain that I think was ov pain - but I can't be sure, I had never felt it before last cycle. But I agree, the temps don't look right for that and look like I would have ov'd much earlier, which is why I am so confused.
I did try and put in a temp for tomorrow coco, I used the same as today's, and it didn't give me an ov day, so I guess I just wait and see.
It's all very technical isn't it? And to think that we all just used to think that you just had a shag and if you weren't careful - 9 mo later ...

[Cherished]

Finally! I have caught up on all the posts! I have been MIA all weekend, dh & I went camping for 3 night and just got back today after lunch...

Smallfry YAYAYAYAY !

coco Hello my lovely I missed you, that is great you have an appointment!

Dellydoo what's the update on your tww?

Milly I agree with smallfry about the temping... I have found that even 1/2 an hour either side of 6am can make a big difference to my temp so if you are consisstant you should get correct results. HTH

KM1 & Sunny thanks for thinking of me... It was great to get away and I am feeling heaps better.... My bleeding stopped pretty much by Sat morning and I guess I have recovered... We got home and had a spa which was heaven and I am feeling positive about everything... dh wants to ttc again, despite my attitude a few days ago I am actually physically and emotionally ready to go again... BUT I am so calm about it all that I would like to wait a couple of months and really put an effort and commitment into loosing weight and getting a bit fitter 1st... I kinda feel like there isn't any rush now. Having said that we will still 'try' but I will just go by my CM and OPK and only dtd right on ovulation... if we get a bfp than great but I wont be worried if I don't. I hope God dam RB stays away for both of you!

ferrals I looove that dream! It must be a sign honey! all those opinionated people can get stuffed! You can have as many babies are you like and I totally agree about all the junkies and doll bludgers being able to breed Your question about IVF or natural conception.... I don't know? I would be looking at how long it has taken me to fall pregnant and the odds of everything, my age etc etc.... I guess the cost too? Sorry I'm not much help.

catkat & MellyW & tina (don't think I have met you yet?) and what are you doing working so much girl! I hope you are getting a little time to yourself... I am so sorry that all of you are here but very happy to have 3 new friends

eliseouise I'm glad you found your way over here and Sammy Not sure if it's still relevant to you eliseouise but my bleeding started Sat, I passed the embryo on Monday and the bleeding stopped by Sat morning... Regarding ttc: after my D&C I was told that we 'could' ttc at any time, I got pregnant after my first af but as you can see that ended badly but it had nothing to do with conceiving after only one AF... We are going to try again straight way but I am not too concerned if it doesn't happen that quickly again... Good luck and I am very sorry for both of your losses

ZacsMum I haven't taken Primolut sorry I can't help!

Greenslw how did you go with your ultrasound?

Hi & maddison, Anila, Janie, Sunbeam and anyone else that I have forgotten.... Please forgive me my brain has been put through the ringer over the last week!

[coco1411]

Hi cherished! I missed you very much too Hope you're feeling better sweety!!!

Im just finishing off a roast so better go xx

[India's Mum]

Hi All

Thanks for everyone's responses.

Anila - It must be really frustrating to wait that long for AF. One of my problems in TTC is that the older I get the longer my cycle seems to go for. I went from a 28 day regular cycle for most of my adult life to between 31 and 36. It's really hard plot the right days to conceive when things drag on so long. In the old days telling DH we have to have sex every day for a couple of weeks would have brought a smile to his face - now he visibly cringes!

Milly - That make sense about the hormones. I know that mine were low last week but still slightly raised. I took a blood test Friday and I need to ring for the results tomorrow so hopefully they will say the levels are back to normal and my body might resume the cycle.

[Sunny Love]

Cherished Goddess!!!!!
Miss you!

[Cherished]

awwwwwww Sunny & Coco my lovlies... It is just SOOOOOO nice to know that I am missed xoxoxoxoxoxox

[TinaR]

hey everyone,
quick question...I mc on 25th May and am not sure when cycle will go back to normal...here comes the tmi section, my cm seems egg-white today and we dtd last night but i am in town this week and cant again if i am o'ing chances are ok aren't they since swimmers can last up to 3 days? I guess I may be in the tww

I really hope we all get BFP together, it would be nice to share the journey with all of you that I feel a weird bond with (weird because we have never physically met).
I wanted to do personals but am in a hurry tonight. will try to catch up properly on everyones news soon

Since we only have one lovely one with us - Congrats again Small Fry...hope we are with you soon and that this is one real sticky bub

[Cherished]

Hi Tina, When I charted my cycle straight after my D&C in March I ovulated on CD21, when I got my BFP on the next cycle I also ovulated around CD21.... hmmmmm not sure how that helps you OK I think your body could totally be ovulating around now... Do you chart? either way EWCM is the best to keep those spermies alive in there while they wait for the egg and you are considered 'fertile' until you dry up down there so you are totally in with a chance! I expect that I will ovulate and be back to normal before af arrives so there is no reason why you wouldn't be too HTH xo

[milly5]

Hi Ladies,

Hello Cherished, I am glad you have been doing some nice things for yourself.

Milly I agree with smallfry about the temping... I have found that even 1/2 an hour either side of 6am can make a big difference to my temp so if you are consisstant you should get correct results. HTH

Urgh... that means waking up at 4.00 EVERY day?????? oh well, the things we do .....

Sammy - I hope your blood test are OK and your cycle returns to normal. I know it was a killer for me waiting for the blood test results.

Tina, so you you are in the 2WW with me - fingers crossed!

[LittleOnes]

milly - I found that my bladder woke me consistently so didn't need to use an alarm as I could guarantee it would wake me... was hard to temp when busting sometimes though!!

[Cherished]

heheheh smallfry, sometimes I would wake up at 5 or 5:30 BUSTING! but I wouldn't get up to pee because it would muck up my temp! that is how I know that the temp varies so much from 5am -6am etc because I would take my temp when I woke up and then tried to say really still cause I was busting For conception reasons you really only need to temp just before ovulation so you can see the dip and rise etc and than a few days after ovulation to make sure you have had the rise... So really only about a week... For me I took my temp for longer because I was addicted to it !