Trying to Conceive after Miscarriage or Loss May 2007

[cheekyfrog]

Thanks Leyla for asking. Yes, the gloom is starting to lift. Not crying, just feel flat, particularly today. Possibly that's due to the anti-depressants that I started taking a few days after the d&c. Also have been able to catch up with DP and talk over how I'm feeling and the future, and he's said yes to trying again when I'm ready and once I've seen the f/s. He's said a few times since the m/c that he's starting to think its his 'swimmers' that are the problem. Anyway, I've started temping this morning. I thought I'd stopped spotting but there's still a little bit of discharge occasionally, looks like discoloured ewcm. (sorry, tmi!) I've been thinking I should also arrange to have a blood test sometime soon to check how much the hCG levels have dropped.

Good luck to all those in the TWW, waiting to O or for AF to arrive!

[satya]

Hi everyone,

Welcome Sacha. I am so sorry for your loss. You have come to the right place for support. I think we all worry if we will ever have luck again and then if we do it we will all worry about another m/c. I've had two - one years ago (TTC for 8.5 years with my ex) and one recently (after 9 months TTC with my DF) so I am not confident about things working out for me in any hurry and my time is running out as I will be 41 this month.

Lee - I caved in this morning too - in the hope of some happy news for mothers day - and the test of course was a BFN.... as I pretty much expected. Repeat to myself... I will not test again unless I'm late.... I must make this my mantra.



My cramps have diminished over the last 24 hours and I've had some slight spotting today. The only one that remains is that I'm incredibly emotional. I am now convinced AF is on her way as I always spot before she arrives and the only time I didn't was when I conceived. I'm starting to think that all the "symptoms" I seem to experience in week 3 of my cycle might be getting caused by the hormone surge that comes with ovulation, only to disappear as I near my AF. I will be very interested to see what all my BT results show on Tuesday. Anyway, I will basically just wait for AF to arrive now as I'm sure I'm not pg.

My mothers day was a very emotional one. Burst into tears twice on my DF for no apparent reason today. I think it was just because I should have been celebrating it as a mum to be. My DF & I had breakfast out together, had a picnic on a mountain & an iceream as we walked along the beach. He went out of his way to make the day special for me. We also visited my mum in hospital and his grandmother as well. All in all a pretty good day.

I hope everyone got through today without too much sadness.

[Lee]

Hi ladies,

Well my news is that I was very surprised to see that AF showed up tonight. Not expected till next Wednesday, so a few days early. I guess my body is still re-adjusting after giving birth in March. My first AF was 15 April, and I normally have a longer than average cycle. So, here I am expecting to be late and hopefully UTD, and AF shows up early - assuming it is her. I have 2 children, aged 7 and 9, and with them and my latest pregnancy, I never experienced implantation bleeding. So, although I wish this is what it is, I'm not sure, but I don't think it is!! It's quite 'red' - and I understand implantation bleeding is more brownish, and not a heavy flow - any knowledge on this would be appreciated.

Ah, the journey to conceive is fraught with unexpected twists and turns...........

Satya - hang in there, you still have hope!! On Thursday I was having cramps (not painful, but enough for me to notice them) - and I was convinced these could be implantation - as I was 8 DPO. I'm now 11 DPO, so that's pretty early for AF would you think?

I'll let you know how the flow goes tomorrow!!

I got through Mothers Day - my 2 kids kept me wonderfully diverted from thinking too much about my baby boy who died in March. I only knew him for 18 hours, in a way, I wonder was he really here at all, taken before I even got to know him. I hate living in the land of "what ifs" - it's such a painful place to exist. I love my baby boy, but he's not here with me in the flesh. I love him, and have some lovely memories of him, and also some terribly painful and tragic memories too. I know I must keep looking forward to the future - and thats what we all must do - keep looking ahead and having HOPE that we will be rewarded with the thing we most desire.

And we do have HOPE, for sure.

Blessings to you all.

Lee xoxo

[Sharon19270]

HAPPY MOTHER'S DAY EVERYONE!

pash I couldn't knit if my life depended on it, so that is why I do scrapbooking, but even that can't take my mind off testing LOL
satya it is very weird us cycle buddies having similar symptoms, we can only hope. I was very good and DID NOT CAVE IN AND TEST, don't know how much longer I can hold out though, I am predicting that Wednesday will be the day I test, but at least I will be 12 dpo and not 9 dpo like last cycle. That was so sweet to get a mother's day gift from your SD.
sacha77 sorry to hear about your loss, I that all of us have the same fears as you, so you aren't alone, I know I often think that I may not get pg again, and also worry that if/when I do I will miscarry again, I honestly hope that you aren't in here for too long and they do say that it can be easier to get pg after a miscarriage.
Lee I am finding it increasingly harder not to test each morning, you just need to try and wait a few more days, if I can do it, anyone can! You can be strong! LOL just read your update, and I hope AF isn't here for you, but also wanted to let you know that I have had luteal phases of 9 days and 10 days, both only once though so 11 days isn't unheard of and I think it is really only a worry if it is less than 10 days.
jenjams I am very proud of myself for not testing. Yay on you getting your coverline, I have my :crosfingers: for you. Sorry, can't help you with any info on the cramping, let's hope it's something good.
Leyla hope that AF arrives for you soon so that you can get on with your next cycle.
kbowman I had the discoloured ewcm too, hope your body gets back to normal soon.
satya I really do hope that the spotting isn't AF on her way.

I had a lovely mother's day, dh tried to let me sleep in, but all I could hear Jordan saying for about 1/2 an hour was that he was "starving hungry" he wouldn't have any cereal because they where taking me to maccas for breaky so I ended up getting up at 9. We aren't into "big" mother's day pressies, feel it is way too commercialised, so I got a lovely note paper and envelope boxed set with a pen on a keyring (school mother's day stall) and a chrisanthumum (sp?) which I hope I don't kill (I have a terrible track record with plants) so it really was a nice day. I still don't have any symptoms that I don't normally have before AF, well all except a headache that comes and goes once or twice during the day for the last 3-4 days or so. Does anyone know (or experienced) headaches during early pregnancy?

[jenjams]

Good morning all. I hope all out there had a lovely mothers day.
I am with you Sharon on Mothers day being way over commercialised. We had a good day yesterday. We went to see my Nanna and Mum and Dad came down from the country so we had a great day.

I woke this morning still with slight cramps, feeling very tired and with slight nausea. I am expecting the spotting to start shortly. If I was pg I dont reckon I would be having these symptoms because I am only 5DPO. The cramping hasn't stopped since O. It may be a virus.

Satya- You never know until AF arrives so their is still hope.

My fingers are crossed for everyone out there.

Have a great week.


Jen

[Lee]

Hey ladies - it's definately AF - oh well........... actually in a way I don't mind - as I'm almost a bit relieved and can stop obsessing for a little while anyway - till next month! I'm getting married in 2 weeks time, and that means around my next O time - so that will be a very appropriate time for a jolly good BD LOL !!!!!!!!

Sharon - hanging to hear your results !! And praying.........!!

Amanda x

[satya]

Hi all,

Lee - sorry your AF turned up unexpectedly.... things were looking so promising. On a positive note at least things will be timed well for your wedding.... perhaps you could conceive a honeymoon baby.... how romantic would that be???

Sharon - well done for not testing. I wish I hadn't. I didn't use 1st morning urine as I was determined not to test, but ended up using my 2nd one (before having anything to eat or drink) as I could not stop myself... knowing full well that it was too early and the wrong pee to use.... I'm absolutely hopeless. As for your headaches - they are a common sign of early pregnancy so hopefull that's a good sign. I've also had some over the last few days.

jenjams - Your symptoms sound promising. Early symptoms are a funny thing I think. The experts tell you that you can't get pg symptoms until 3-4 days after implantation so that's between say 6DPO (if you implant early on 3DPO) and 14DPO if you implant on 10DPO) but the internet is full of sites with women claiming to have symptoms from 3DPO onwards..... so I have no idea what the truth is.



I'm feeling a little more positive this morning. I'm 11DPO (CD24 of a 28 day cycle usually so AF would be due this Friday) and experienced a tiny amount of brownish spotting yesterday, and then a little pinkish spotting first thing this morning after a little more cramping. I normally only get brown spotting before my AF so I'm hoping that it's implantation spotting, but I'm not overly confident about that.

I am still feeling over emotional - had to hold off the tears reading about that baby being dumped at Dandy Hospital... it's not far from where I work... unbelievable for that to happen on mothers day. I get emotional before my AF so it really doesn't mean anything. I also had a .3 dip in temp this morning which I guess is either an implantation dip or it is a sign AF is on her way, but comparing my chart to others similar to my own I noticed a few pg charts that looked like mine but most were ovulatory so I think it will be the latter. I hate this wait.

[jenjams]

Satya- I saw the news last night about the baby being dumped at the Dandy hospital. I dont know the facts of the case but on face value, how can a mother just dump her new born.......
Lee- I have my fingers crossed for you for a Honeymoon conception.

I guess only time will tell if my symptoms are actual symptoms or not. I could handle going back to bed for a nap today though!

[Herbie]

Hi girls, long time no talk,

Sacha-That is exactly how I feel so you are not alone. I think "I could get pg before so why can't I know" & then I know when & IF it ever happens I will be so scared of m/c. Don't feel alone there are lots of people that feel exactly the same. I had mine back in Nov 06 and am still not pg. Phoned my ob last week who said come & see him I said I will wait a couple of months & if not pg I will make an appt to go back & see him. I get so stressed cause I know I can get pg but now it won't happen. Ob said it may be because worried about it too much. Getting to the stage of jsut being "over it". Hope this helps a bit.
Everyone in here will support you lots though.

Sorry haven't been in girls but am struggling a bit at minute & as I said I am over it all really. Once AF arrives again, I am giving up temping and will take a break from here as well & my poor DH will not know what has hit him. Congrats to all the and lots of to everyone else

Herbie
xx

[Sharon19270]

Well this morning I had a bit of a temp dip and also some 'pink' spotting and going by previous cycles (I usually spot 1-2 days before AF) I think AF will be showing up either tomorrow or wednesday.

Just a question on spotting though, if it is implantation spotting is it normally old blood (you know, brownish colour) or new "pink" blood, because whenever I have spotted before it has always been the old blood.

Don't have time for personals this morning, will BBL tonight.

[nicjay]

Hi everyone,

First of all, congratulations maz! All the best for your pregnancy.

Sharon - what a bummer! I don't know the answer to your question, sorry, I've never had an implantation bleed. Hopefully someone else who knows will be along soon.

Herbie - I'm really sorry you're feeling "over it". I know how you feel, because I was like that last month. I definitely reckon that getting all stressed about it doesn't help either - I've been trying really hard to stay relaxed this month about everything.

satya and jenjams - fingers crossed for you both, hope AF stays away

Lee - blah to AF! But good luck for TTC a honeymoon baby - you never know!!

Kerry - I hope you are feeling better, I'm so sorry for your loss

Leyla - I really hope AF shows for you soon and you can get on to your next cycle

Sacha - I'm so sorry for your loss, I know how you feel too, I'll always have a worry in the back of my mind that it will happen again. But I'm trying to stay positive and not think about it this month, because it was all I thought of last month! But I hope things get better for you soon.

Well, I've been really busy and quite slack and haven't posted for a while - whew, it takes a while to get through all the personals!

I'm on CD14 today and pretty sure I'll O today, had a positive OPK 2 days ago - well, it was more positive than they were on all the other days, so I'm calling it positive! And all the other signs are looking good. I hope that I do O today though, because DH is off to Melbourne for work for a couple of days on Wednesday!!

I went to see my ob last week and got the thumbs up which was really good, he told me he expects to see me back there pregnant really soon - fingers crossed he is right!! He's given me a request to have CD21 hormone levels checked, but he doesn't expect them to show up a problem, so I'm thinking I'll wait a couple of cycles and see what happens.

But after that I am feeling really positive for this month - it just seems like everything is going better than last month, which is a relief in itself. Last month was just a really crap month!

Anyway, hello and best wishes to everyone I've missed - hope you are all doing well

[Bun]

Hi all.

Sacha - so sorry to see you here and for your loss. Please know that your feelings are completely normal - I too am terrifed to be pg after two consecutive losses, but at the same time I want to be pg as I want a baby so very badly. It's not fun at all, but it gets easier. Hopefully we can all help you.

megsmum - glad to hear you sounding more positive this month! Maybe it's a sign that this will be the month for you!!

Herbie - sorry to hear that you are over it right now. I know exactly how you feel - it just shouldn't be this hard should it?! I always try to look at all the positives of not being pg, like being able to drink and eat what you like, and having more money to play with, etc, but some days it just really doesn't work and make you feel any better. I hope you have a better day tomorrow!

jen- yay on your coverline! I thought it was on its way. Fingers crossed!

Lee - sorry to hear about AF, but yay on getting married in 2 weeks! How exciting! And yes, just think how great a honeymoon baby would be!

sharon - good on you for not testing yet! So much willpower! I'm glad you had a good mothers day.

kerry - good to hear you sounding a little better.

Hi to everyone I have missed.

Me: I am now on CD6 and today is my last clomid tablet. I really haven't had too many side effects, or not that I have noticed anyway. I have had a couple of shocking headaches, but I get them sometimes, so it may be totally unrelated, and I have felt a bit nauseous, but have just ignored it. My mood hasn't been afftected thank goodness, so I have no awful embarrassing stories to tell, and DH has been spared. My next BT is Thurs, although I would not expect much to be happening by then as I will only be on CD9. I am quite positive that this will work for us, if not this month, then hopefully another, but at the same time am still struggling a lot. I can't see myself having a baby - I see it as something other people get, but not me. Sometimes I can't see my future as I am so unsure about what it may hold. If I could peak 5 years into the future and know that it all works out, I could keep going on this journey, but some days I just don't know if it is worth it or not? It is not like my problem is conceiving and that once we are over that hurdle, we are fine, it's that my babies just don't stick and there is not much medicine can do for that. Sorry, vent over!

[Inanna]

Big big hugs Bun :hugs:
I understand how you feel only too well... Something that helped me was that I made a picture board. I cut out pictures of pregnant bellies, birth pictures, newborn pictures. I even wrote a birth notice and put it up on the board. I wrote affirmations on the board too. "My body perfectly supports the healthy growth and development of this baby". "I am pregnant with a healthy baby". I put it on my bedroom wall and look at it every morning when I wake up.

The clomid has every chance of extending that LP and therefore you getting pregnant very soon. There IS much that can be done for recurrent miscarriage - there are drugs that have helped many of the BB women stick their precious babies. Remember though you are not in the recurrent miscarriage bracket. I hope that you never are.

It's great that you had no side effects and that your moods have been spared. On 150mgs I was the she devil let me tell you!!!! I have everything crossed for you Bun...

[cheekyfrog]

Salt Princess. Hope you're over your cold soon and that you catch the this cycle (now THAT would be an awesome birthday present!).

Hello Deb! Love the affirmations poster board idea

I'd also love to see five years into the future, Bun,*fingers crossed* for you this cycle, hope your BT on Thursday shows some good results for you.

Good news from your ob, Meg's Mum! I'll be so relieved if I get the thumbs up too on May 30.

Sharon, the only time I had implantation spotting and a big dip in temperature to go with it, it was like ewcm with a spot of pink and some strong cramps with it. Hope this is it for you!!

Hello Herbie, the relaxed approach sounds a good one. Hope you don't need to make that return appointment with your ob in a couple of months time unless it's because you've got a BFP

I've got my *fingers crossed* for you, Jenjams and Satya, for some good news at the end of your tww's. All sounding good so far!

Sorry af turned up for you, Lee, but that honeyoon bfp sounds perfect!

Hope af shows her face for you Leyla and that you catch the eggie next cycle!

Still getting discoloured ewcm here and looking forward to my cycle returning to normal, hopefully that will be sooner rather than later.

Big *waves* to anyone I've missed and lots of love xoxo

[jenjams]

HAPPY BIRTHDAY Salt. Damn that cold keeping you down. I hope that Big O comes soon and you catch the egg.
Five years into the future for you too Kerry will be great as well!
Your babies will stick Bun and when this next one does, it will make it even more special.
Sounds all positive Megsmum.

I think girls we are due for a run of BFP's. its what we all deserve!

I am still having the cramping and have the nausea. This evening I felt like a kind of "stitch" on my right hand side lower. But hey if I keep talking myself into symptoms anything can happen! I just keep getting the feeling that spotting turning into AF is right around the corner.
But for everyone :

[satya]

Hi everyone,

megsmum - good luck with oing before your man goes away.

Bun - glad the clomid hasn't had any nasty effects on you. I hope it does it's job well for you.

Sharon - I think implantation spotting can be new or old blood, that's why I'm not sure if it's AF on her way or not. Like you I normally only get brown spotting so I'm hoping it's good news for both of us.

Herbie - a break sounds like a good idea for you. If I keep going the way I am I will need to do the same. I am obsessing about symptoms that are probably all in my head & my emotions are out of control.... maybe time for a break for me to soon.

Salt - Happy Birthday I hope you feel better soon.



I've had another over emotional day again today. Burst in to tears a couple of times again over little things. I also struggled to keep the tears at bay as we left the hospital after visiting my mum only to walk past a heavily pregnant woman. She looked so happy and I've felt so crap all day. My partner looked at me and smiled and said that will be you really soon. I wish I could be so optimistic, I really do, but I'm just not. The tears started but I managed to keep them so that he did not notice.

I've had cramping & light spotting today, along with the emotional stuff.... I keep hoping that good news is on it's way as it's only CD24 but deep down I think AF is on her way early. I get my results from my CD21 test tomorrow.... I'll be feeling a little stressed until I hear exactly what the go is.

Sorry to anyone I've missed.

[jenjams]

*sigh* I just found some spotting and the cramping feels like AF. I am only 5DPO.

I know how you feel. You go from being ok to being down in the dumps. Nothing constant. A good cry sometimes is a good thing.... Its also funny how we tend to see all the pregnant people out there. Why cant it be us Dammit!
It will be us all hopefully very soon.

[BekZ]

Just a quick post. I will come back soon and read all the posts.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY SALT!!!!!

Wow that is great that we have the same Bday and we are the same age

Hope you feel better real soon.

Hi everyone, hugs to all