Trying to Conceive after Miscarriage or Loss May 2007

[*las*]

Sharon - I'm so sorry sweet, sending you a big hug, it's so not fair to be teased like that

Jenjams - I have everything crossed for you...keep us posted on how you go.

kiwigirl - yay for AF finally! I bet you must be relieved! Good luck with this cycle.

SP - hope the next week flies by with a wonderful result...everything crossed for you!

Bun - your weekend sounded like a lot of fun. I understand your apprehension and it's incredibly hard living with all the mixed emotions

Satya - I would only suggest to do what feels 'right' for you. If you feel better about seeing a Gyno, then do that and see where that takes you hun. I'm so sorry to hear about your mum, sending you all lots of love....

I had something happen this week that made me sit up and take stock of a lot of things in life and we are going to make a few changes over the next few weeks.....but did also decide to cycle again this month. CD 3 and I start Clomid today...after feeling so flat about this upcoming cycle, I'm feeling ready to tackle it head on and not let things beat me....

Hi to everyone else

[Bun]

Hi girls,

Well, today is my first EDD and so far I am doing surprisingly well. Maybe I will have a meltdown this afternoon when it hits me, but so far I actually feel in pretty good spirits. I didn't sleep much last night and I think I am coming down with the flu or something. I had planned to take today off work to be on my own, but, as always happens here, a partner came into my office late yesterday to give me urgent work to do today because he is playing golf! Typical! So, here I am at my desk, when I really don't feel like working. I think I am feeling ok because the clinic phoned yesterday and told me to come in for a scan tomorrow morning (at 7am!), and that means that I am about to O. I noticed some EWCM today, so O is definitely on its way, and that's really good! I will be O'ing much earlier on clomid than naturally, and I am really hoping that will do the trick. I guess I feel like I have some hope again (false hope though it may be), and am feeling a little more positive about things working out, if not this cycle, then soon. At least clomid is making my cycles more normal. Today is CD14, so I will still have a longer than 28 days cycle, but it will be much shorter than my usual cycle when I O anywhere from CD20 to 26!

mummyto1 - thanks. I am so glad you keep popping in - it gives me hope! I now think clomid is fantastic! (not that it has worked yet, but I am hopeful!). Did you get any cramping around O? Last night and today I am feeling a little uncomfortable, which I assume is because O is approaching. It's nothing bad, but definitely there and I haven't felt that before.

jen - that sounds good to me! Have you still been taking your temps? It would be usual to get only a faint line this early, so all sounds alright to me! I can understand you not wanting to be happy yet, but do another test tomorrow, and hopefully that will reassure you! Yay!

kiwigirl - glad to hear AF has finally arrived!

satya - how are you? Have you heard anything more about your mum? I'm not sure re whether to see a gyno or FS. I have heard that a FS will know more and maybe be better to see, but I have never seen a gyno, so I am really not sure how helpful they would be. My first reaction would be to see a FS so they can get to the bottom of it asap, but maybe a gyno would do the same thing?

Salt - I can't believe you are 5DPO already! I know it must feel like forever to you, but I think that has gone really quickly! I sooo hope this is the one for you. You deserve it. Are you going to test at 13DPO? You are right - people who have never m/ced really have no idea what it is like. It is so hard being around babies and sometimes I worry that it will always be like this. DH and I can't handle seeing babies anymore, and I hate that. We are usually great with kids, but these days it just hurts too much. I hate it!

[maz]

hi YA GIRLS
I just wanted to come in a give you all a big scarey hug from me.
I really hope that this month brings out lots of Stick vibes and BFP.
I think of you all often. and although I dont post much, I do lurk.
Your all in my heart
xxmaz

[imwiththedj]

Hi! I'm Heidi. My fiance and I just lost our first baby on May 12th. I had been on the pill for 7 years and got pregnant the month I quit taking it. I never really had morning sickness, just really sore boobs and very tired. I started bleeding at about 8 weeks and the ultrasound measured the baby at 6 weeks and 5 daysand they couldn't find a heartbeat. I miscarried naturally the week after. It was awful. My best friend (her IUD was out in january) had found out that she was pregnant the same day I did and miscarried at a little over 4 weeks, so I didn't think that I would miscarry too. She just found out that she is pregnant again (she never got a period after her miscarriage). I am jealous, but I really would like to wait the two months that my dr. recommended.

On a side note, a really weird side note. Following my miscarriage, my energy returned to normal, my boobs quit hurting, my acne went away and everything was normal again. I quit bleeding on wednesday, May 16th. We had sex with a condom that night. The next day my face broke out like when I was pregnant (I broke out right away), I am extremely nauseated, I am exhausted, and my boobs are hurting again. Is this somatic? Am I crazy? I can't really be pregnant unless the condom failed, but really how? I am lost, I don't feel like there is a life in me like I did when I knew that I concieved. Any ideas would be appreciated.

I would love to get to know people that are in the same boat as me and I think that this website is terrific.

[cherie26]

Hi Heidi!
I am so sorry for the loss of your beautiful baby:hugs:
I dont think you are pregnant for a few reasons. The first is that after a miscarriage it take from two to eight weeks for the pregnancy hormone to leave your body even though you are no longer carrying the baby and secondly four days are to early to tell if you are pregnant from the night you had sex. I stopped bleeding quite early after my miscarriage but still had alot of the sytoms including a BFP unitl my pregnancy hormone levels went back to 0. Maybe go to your DR and ask for a blood test to see what your levels are at and then you can follow them back to 0 so you will know when your body is back to its self again.
I hope this helps a little and take care of yourself.
You have come to the right place there is alot of caring ladies in here who have helped eachother through their losses.

[imwiththedj]

Thank you for your response. I dont think that I am pregnant, it is just weird to feel like this again. Last time I concieved I felt like something was inside of me and I was sick almost instantly, it was really weird. I almost knew the exact moment that my baby was created. We were trying for a girl so we BD three days before I thought that I would ovulate. The day after I was supposed to ovulated, I felt like fireworks going off inside of me and instantly knew that I was not alone. I dont feel like that now.

I really hope that we get pregnant in july or when ever my 2 cycles are over.

[jenjams]

Evening all,

Bun: I stopped taking my temperature after I had a big dip. I started to get really disheartened and thought it was over for the cycle.
Salt: You never know. We both might get that BFP this month and be buddies.

I am still cramping this evening. I had a shower when I got home from work and felt nausea and nearly threw up.
I will test again in the morning and see if that line gets darker or not. I am very fearful that if it is positive, the same thing as last time will happen. I have had very different symptoms this time to when I was pg before. Last time I craved cheese and that was pretty much it. This time I have had cramps since O, nausea and sore BBS.

Will keep you posted

[satya]

Hi everyone,

Sharon - so sorry your AF turned up. Things had looked promising. I hope you have better luck next cycle.

jenjams - they are good symptoms so don't lose hope yet.

bun - glad you coped well at work today. I hope you stay positive for the rest of the day. You are so like me - whenever I really need a day off something always seems to come up and then I can't take it... it's so frustrating.

Imwiththedj - welcome. I'm sorry for your loss. It seems that it is quite common to get pg symptoms when you start to ttc after a loss. I've had them in week 3 of both the cycles I've had since mine and from reading on here it appears to be pretty common.

salt - I hope your AF stays away.

las - I hope everything is OK with you.

welcome back kiwigirl - I hope there's a BFP for you soon.



My mums news was not exactly great. They believe her 2nd lot of chemo has not been successful so they wont do any more. She's aready had radiation therapy in between the chemo treatments. She's been sent home with some new drugs and we just have to wait and see how it goes.

I had a really sad day again today. Completely lost it at work today. My DF was nagging me about why I hadn't bought petrol.... I was behind in my work as I'm finding it very difficult to concentrate at work.... he's going on about something that to me is so insignificant in the scheme of things.... he ended up hanging up on me. I got off the phone & burst into tears.... open plan office. It was awful. We quickly made up but not before I'd got so upset.

Still haven't made an appointment for a FS. I am trying a few natural things in the meantime. Started drinking green tea. It's helping with my sugar cravings and I'm finding I'm eating less so hopefully it will also help me lose weight in the long term. After I O I'm going to be drinking pineapple juice and taking low dose aspirin. I've done so much research I'm willing to give anything natural a go.

Sorry to anyone I've missed.

[*las*]

Jenjams - everything crossed for you! Hope to hear a wonderful update tomorrow.

satya - sooo sorry for your mum. Hugs to you too. Can I be daft and ask what the pineapple juice does??

[kiwigirl]

Thanks everyone for your msgs to me How do you all keep track of where everyone is up to in this topic?!

las, I am also curious about the pineapple juice - satya can you fill us in please? So sorry to hear about your mum.

[satya]

Hi everyone

Kiwigirl - the way I keep us is I read the thread and write down notes on each persons comments as I read that way I can easily work out what to say when I post. Sometimes I just do this by scrolling up and down while typing my post but that gets a bit tricky.

Las & Kiwigirl - I've been reading up on American ttc sites and have found a number of references to pineapple juice being used after Oing. Apparently it helps with implantation. I came across a number of women who said this was one of the things they did differently on the cycle they conceived so I figured it was worth a shot. Not sure how much you are supposed to drink but I'm just going to have a glass every day and see what happens.

This site had a whole stack of women stating what they did different on their successful cycles. For anyone who is interested the common things were:
drinking pineapple juice after O
using low dose aspirin after O
using pre-seed when bding
drinking green tea.
I also found a number of successful cycles where women used a certain kind of cough syrup. This was often being used by women on clomid to reduce the chance hostile mucus which is apparently common when on it. I've since read on belly belly that this is not recommended as there is a possibility that it could cause birth defects.

Finally I read that drinking more water can improve CM so that's probably a good idea too.

I'd better get off here and go get ready for work.

[mummytotwo]

Bun - I had a bit of mild O cramping on clomid - I would describe it as a slightly tender feeling. I hadn't had O pain for ages before this so think it could have been due to the tablets. Good luck & remember to drink as much water as you can to help with the CM & maybe try a glass or two of pineapple juice.

[BekZ]

Hi Girls,

Just dropping into to say hi!!!! There is a lot of posting going on in here, that is great to see. Sending you all

[Bun]

Morning lovelies,

Bekz - thanks for the babydust! How are you going?

Satya - sorry to hear the latest news about your mother. I hope these new drugs produce some good results. I have also recently read about drinking more to increase CM, so am trying to do that as well. I hadn't heard about pineapple juice before - maybe I will give that a go! I have heard a lot of people saying to be careful with aspirin if it's not prescribed by a dr, as it can cause complications such as excessive bleeding in the event of a m/c. That said, I can understand you wanting to take it to help your chances - I have been tempted too on hearing of it helping others who have m/ced before.

mummyto1 - thanks. Hopefully this will work for us this month. I am definitely feeling a little tender, and I have been told I am about to O, so something is happening in there! It's nothing too bad, actually, overall I have found clomid fine. It would be so great to be able to join you soon!

jen - did you test again today? Those symptoms and the fact that you have had a few BFPs sounds great to me! Let us know how you are going.

Heidi - welcome, and sorry to hear of your loss. I think it's normal to feel a little strange after a m/c, and also it can take a while for the HCG to leave your system, so you may continue to feel pg symptoms for a while after a m/c. I hated that - I still had all the symptoms of pregnancy for ages after my first m/c, and it felt like a cruel reminder of what I had lost. I hope you feel better soon and that we can help you. Just feel free to vent away and say whatever you like here - we all understand what you are going through and would love to help you

Salt - I think your last LP was out because of the m/c and the clot, so I would expect it to go back to normal now. Only 6 days til testing - that is soooo close! Wow! I so hope this is it for you. I have definitely heard of people getting symptoms this early, so you never know - it may not all be in your head!

Well, I had a very early start this morning, I left home at 6.30am (and I am NOT a morning person), to get to the clinic by 7am, then had a BT and had to wait 45 mins for my scan. I have one follicle that is fully grown and ready to pop! Apparently I should O in the next couple of days, which means DH is going to be busy! I had wanted to BD last night, but was tired and DH was home late, so hopefully we will be able to tonight and tomorrow night before I O. We last BDed on Sunday, so that was too long ago. Hold out little follicle until I can seduce DH!!! I was v late for work after waiting so long (and I am getting so sick of it...), and I am really tired. I may say I am sick and leave early today. I had a minor meltdown last night when thinking about my EDD (while watching a tape of Grey's from Sunday night that was about Addison's EDD of a baby she aborted - I can't believe I managed to watch that ep on my EDD!), but overall it was one of my better days. I nearly started bawling when having my BT this morning as I started thinking about it all, but I managed to get through it. I also got annoyed at one of the nurses at my clinic. She was v nice, but when she asked how I was going and I said I was getting a bit sick of this, she said I am just at the beginning! I know that would be correct if I was at the clinic for infertility, but I am not, I am there to help me not m/c, and I have been through a very rough road with 2 m/cs in the last few months, so for me, this journey has already been a long and tough one. I know it is only my first cycle of clomid, and for many women this would be the beginning of their journey, but my situation is different. I don't know why it annoys me so much, but I am always getting annoyed with them for saying things that clearly indicate they have no idea of my situation. My situation is different from most of their patients, and they have my file in front of them, so I just wish they wouldn't treat me like that. I have never said anything to them, but it frustrates me. I know it shouldn't, but it just does.

[*las*]

Satya - that's fascinating! I knew about the low dose aspirin, but didn't know about Green Tea either! If it's all natural it's certainly worth giving it a go. Did it say how long after you 'o' to drink it, just a few days or until af/pg????

[jenjams]

Hi all,

Well I tested this morning with a cheap ebay test again and I only got the faintest of lines. I then caved in at work and bought another first response test (The same I used yesterday) The test line is darker than yesterday so I am guessing its a positive.
I still have it that it wont last. I guess everyone who has had a m/c is going to be very scared until they reach that magic 12 weeks....
I am going to book into the docs for a blood test and to check the hcg levels.
Its funny you know, we Bd'd more last month and this month seeing as O came earlier, I really thought we missed the boat. Then the spotting came and the temp dip and I thought here we go again another wasted month..... I guess that tells us all there is hope yet.
I am still cramping and that worries me. Everything in my body will worry me in the next 12 weeks.

I gave up alcohol and coffee about 3 weeks ago. I like drinking green tea. I actually like the mint green tea. I find it tastes better than the normal green tea.

I hope this one sticks. I know DP is excited but we are not getting too ahead of ourselves so we dont get too disappointed down the track.

Bun: Maybe you will be like mummyto1 and conceive on your first clomid cycle. DH will be getting a workout in the next few days! Baby dust to you
Satya:I know how you feel about with your mum. My mum has heart disease so I want to be able to give her that grandchild she really wants. That will perk her up a lot.
Salt: Lets hope you can join me in 6 days time. I felt "symptoms" ever since O so you never know. All the positive vibes I can muster.
Las: Thanks for your crossed bits. I hope it works out! Baby dust to you too

Good luck to everyone else. I hope you can all join me in the PAML thread.

[Trying to be Postive]

Hello, I am new here too... though I have been reading for a while, I have been too shy to post... but you all seem so lovely, and while I have met lots of ppl online who have been through this, this is the first place I have been where there is a great forum for ladies who have m/c'd and are now TTC... I am so sorry you all have to be here... but so grateful you are...

I had a MC in March this year... and have had AF about 20 days ago... and a BT that says my HCG levels have gone back to <2.... yet... this cycle my temps are all over the place and it looks like I have not O'd.... did anyone else find it took a while for their cycles to go back to "normal" or did anyone else not O and then go back to O? I am so worried that this is sign of other problems...

Thank you for reading. I look forward to getting to know you all.

Oh and my name should be Trying to be Positive... stupid typo! hee hee

[BekZ]

Satya - Sorry to hear about your mum. My thoughts are with you and your family.

SP - Don't test until you are due hon. It will save a heap of stress. I had heaps of cramping when I feel pg, to the point that I thought af was coming for the whole tww and beyond. Fingers crossed.

Jenjams - Congrates and I really hope to see you in PAML. As above I had heaps of cramps in my TTW and for about one month after. Goodluck and I hope you get a +ve bt, all looks really good for you. I am 11.1wks atm and yes the 12WW is stressful at times. Although I did make a point not to stress too much, and I decided not to do hcg level testing etc. I think I am the most stressed now knowing that I have a 12wk scan in 6 days and I so want to see a heartbeat and healthy baby there.

TtbP - You'll find the ladies in here super. Good luck with your TTC journey.