I think there's definately a need for a LTTTC after m/c and loss. There's a lot of stories here that I can't comprehend, and you do your best to offer some comfort but I know it doesn't always work. I know I grieve for Splat, but so far I've been lucky enough not to grieve for years spent TTC. I know we all try, but there are some things you don't ''get'' til you live it, so trying to offer comfort isn't always comforting. So I can see how it would hurt when others who maybe haven't hurt as much as you, or who've hurt in different ways, move on before you. I know that I've felt sometimes that the things I say must feel so insignificant, I mean them wholeheartedly, but it can be hard to get across, especially when others have had different journeys. But the brilliant thing is we all try so hard, and we all mean it, even if we don't understand. I've cried for you guys as well as myself, getting the BFP this morning is bittersweet cos last week I was imagining a belly buddies group with Ferrals and Crafty in it. So yeah, there are some things I dont understand, that I can't understand, but I try, I know we all do. So I think a LTTC thread could be good, but I woulden't wanna retract from any of the support that's happened in this thread. And I'd totally stalk.