Had a really busy weekend so haven't had a chance to get on til now.
Sharon - your symptoms are sounding positive. Spotting can happen when pregnant so don't get sad yet - it could be implantation.
Sweetpetite - You've had a rough trot of it. A couple of things you mentioned concerned me greatly. The first thing was thoughts of hurting yourself. You really should seek professional help as should anyone who is having those thoughts. The other concern was that you said you are not eating or drinking properly. When preparing for pregnancy you must eat well and drink lots of water so that you have the essential nutrients for a successful pregnancy. Seeking help would probably also assist with that as well. I'd suggest not trying again until you get your mind and your body back to an even keel.
Britkane8 - good luck with your results today.
crossmyfingers - Sorry for your loss. Both my losses were early at about 5 & 6 weeks and were natural ones. I can't imagine what it's like to be merrily going along not knowing that anything's wrong only to find out it's been over for a couple of months. There are a number of ladies here who've been through the same thing so I'm sure they will be able to offer you some support, knowing exactly what it's like to go through. BB has been my saviour on my bad days, I just come in here and type away and it always makes me feel better.
Megsmum - ttcing really can get you down when it goes on for a while and the clomid probably isn't making things any easier for you.
I managed to get through the very difficult situation of seeing my SIL for the first time after her pg announcement. As expected she went on and on about it and every subject kept getting turned back to pg. I had to walk out of the room a few times as I just couldn't take it. Even when she knew it was upsetting me she kept doing it. Lots of alcohol got me through it. I just hope she doesn't have the misfortune of having a m/c and then have to sit there and listen to someone else who's equally insensitive about their pg.
CD 10 for me today. My high temp was a stray one so I am indeed still waiting to O somewhere between CD13-16. Madly taking my evening primrose oil now.
Sounds like you are a cracker of a poker player, Britkane!!! Hope your luck with the cards is matched with equally good news with the BT results today. Everything's crossed for you!!
Crossingmyfingers, welcome to this thread. Sorry for your loss. Was there any reason given by your doctor to have to wait 6 months? I had a missed miscarriage too this year. It's hard not to feel that your body has in some way tricked you, isn't it. But I guess it also means that our bodies are good at providing a home for our bubs. Congrats on getting your AF a month to the day of your D&C. Hope your TTC journey is a sweet one!
Sharon, I was thinking that spotting might be implantation too after looking at your charts. I wonder if you're implanting late? Hope AF stays away for you and that you're announcing a BFP to us within the next few days.
Hello Megsmum, sorry the Clomid is running amok with your emotions. It sure is one hormonal rollercoaster. Hope you get the high of a really sticky BFP this cycle. IKWYM about hearing the clock ticking. I do too.
Sweetpetite, I'm glad to hear you're feeling a bit better. It does take time and lots of support. Don't feel you can't ever ask for help. That's what it's there for. My ex committed an act of self harm not long after we broke up and six years on I miss him as keenly as the day it happened. Counselling will help with getting through this time. I also asked my GP to prescribe antidepressants for me and they helped too. As for a dictionary of the popular abbreviations used on BB, if you go to the welcome forum, there is a thread there with all the acronyms and what they mean.
Satya, you did well to cope as well as you did with your SIL's performance. It would take me a hangover worth of alcohol to get through that one! Hope the evening primrose oil does the trick for you. Good luck with catching the eggie!
Back to work for me today, argghh. I have to do a presentation and I've not slept well. At least I won't be thinking about whether I'm pg or not all day today! Hope everyone has a great start to the week.
I've been away for a few days with DH, out last romantic weekend before we take the IVF plunge. Firstly, Sharon, I hope your spotting has gone away, if not from my experience it can be OK if u don't have cramps or bright blood. I understand how u feel though and my thoughts are with u.
I've collected my bag of IVF 'goodies', I'm sure it'll take me the next week to sort it out although I have to start Provera tablets shortly. Now I'm just keen to get it over with.
Crossingmyfingers - I am very sorry to hear what happened to you . Good luck with ttc!
Janeo - I am in Melbourne, thanks for your advice, I found a naturopath/acupuncturist through referral and I have an appt on Thurs. Hopefully someone I click with!!!
Kbowman - Good luck with your presentation today and I cross my fingers for you and send you big fat sticky babydust vibes for that BFP!!!
Satya - you mentioned evening primrose oil. Do you take the amount on the package or did you get advice from a naturopath re dosage? I have it in my cupboard, but the recommended dosage seems quite high (6000mg) compared to what I read on the Internet 1500mg.
On the subject of your SIL I know exactly how you feel. My SIL is a bit insensitive and the last time we met I was still pregnant. Now I have not had the guts to turn up to any family event where she is at as I am afraid that I will just break out in tears. You are doing a whole lot better than me if you can turn up in the first place - well done!!! It's sooooo hard!!!!
Susan - go poker girl!! Good luck with your BT results.
Hello to everybody else..
As for me I got AF yesterday, hurray!!! Now I can TTC again... Has anybody else had AF 2 weeks after D&C? 2 weeks seems a bit short for a cycle, but then I guess everything is a bit out of whack anyway... Anybody??
Sweetpetite- i know i felt really dumb walking around telling everyone that i was three months... i finally started to bleed when i was at a friends baby shower...that kinda sucked...and it was my boyfriends birthday as well i wish you lots of luck as well.
Penny- I just had a d&c a month ago on june 12th i just got Af on the 12th so i got mine a month after...Good luck to you in TTC!
Kbowman- Thanks for the support i wish you as well lots of luck!!!
As for me... still waiting for AF to get out of town.... crossing everything that i can for everyone lots of luck and baby dust etc thanks everyone for your kind words it helps alot!
Penny - It's almost been two weeks since I've had my m/c but then again, I had a natural one, so I'm not sure about the difference between how long it takes with a natural or a d & c
Sharon19270 – I’m so sorry AF arrived, I understand about not being on here for a couple of weeks. Hugs…
Saltprincess – have you O’d yet? Lots of prayers for a sticky for you this month hun.
Satya – how did you go after hearing about your colleague’s baby? Hope you are okay, lots of hugs. God, your SIL needs to learn some tact! Sorry if that sounds harsh but some people have no idea!
Sweetpetite – welcome, and I hope your stay with us is short.
Britkane – did you get your BT results?
Username – think I will keep Shoegal. If anyone IRL finds me (not that I have told them) then what’s the worst that can happen? Am very attached to my username now I think!!
Flowerchild – thanks for the warning about the sensitivity of the digital HPT’s. This might sound silly but how do I know how what the miu is? I have some Confirm HPT’s that I bought at Coles, will these be more sensitive than the digital HPT? I’d like to use these up before I purchase the LC ones.
One more question, from what DPO does implantation occur? Does anyone know?? Do you ALWAYS get cramping?
well i got my bt results and its a negative my hcg have not dropped back to normal yet from having my m/c so now i have to go back and get another lot of bt donr in 2 weeks...so looks like we are still ttc with you girls oh well.....
i hope all of you are doing ok i will back on 2morrow to do personals i have lots i have to do today.so i just popped in to tell u how i went....
love susan
p.s i hvae noticed that i have been losing some ewcm the past 2 days so hope thats a good sign
Penny, congrats on getting AF 2 weeks after your D&C. I had to wait 2 months! So not long now before you'll be able to "get jiggy with it", lol.
Oh Susan, I'm so sorry, sweetie, that the BT was negative for you. Checking to see how you went today was the first thing I did when signing on to BB this afternoon after I got home from work.
Shoegal, the Confirm HPT are 25miu I think if they are the regular ones so would be less than the digital variety. I did a quick Google on implantation and I found this information: HCG hormone starts being produced when the pregnancy implants into the uterine lining. The findings in normal women trying to conceive included: first appearance of HCG (implantation) occurred 6-12 days after ovulation, 84% of the pregnancies implanted on days 8-10 after ovulation. The same site said that early pregnancy loss increased with later implantation. Implantation early pregnancy loss rate: 13% by day 9, 26% on day 10, 52% on day 11, 86% on day 12 or more.
Well, my presentation went okay (not the disaster I suspected it could have been) and I am very glad it's all over. I shall be able to sleep tonight! And I hope to see my temperature staying where it is! Here I am, 4DPO, and I have been visualising fertilisation and implantation. Hope my visualisations work! Now I sound like a fruitcake! Ha ha.
Kbowman - I'm glad your presentation went well today. I hope the rest of your tww flies by.
Penny - I'm using 3000 miligrams or whatever the measurement is of the evening primrose oil caps. I'm using them in a hope to improve my EWCM as I don't seem to get much of it anymore. Last cycle I only used 1000 and it didn't do anything at all.
Shoegal - my work colleague had her baby on Friday arvo after going in to labour Thursday morning. I didn't hear about the birth until today. In fact I heard a heap about it today. Another girl at work couldn't stop speaking about it as she'd been talking to the new mum who had given her all the gory details.... and she had complications so there were lots of details. It drove me absolutely nuts. People just don't seem to get that if you've had a m/c and are not yet pg again you just don't want to hear about it.
Well AF turned up for me this afternoon and I just wanted to cry, to say I am not happy is an understatement, I feel like giving up! depending on my mood over the next few days I may or may not be back this week.
Big hugs, Sharon. It's rotten to keep going through this. Just awful.
Satya, have you tried drinking green tea? It's also supposed to increase ewcm. And drinking lots of water, too. I use LC pre-seed to make sure the environment is *right*, lol.
I've been away from home and MIA for a while, so thought i'd pop in and see how you're all going. I really do think of you all every day and am praying for lots of happy endings, and soon!
To all the new girls, hello, and so sorry you've had to join this thread. I just can't believe m/c happens so often, it's so unfair. I feel gutted everytime i hear about it happening to someone else.
Pash, i don't know if you're still around but i'm so pleased it wasn't a molar pregnancy. Do you think you'll ttc again soon? tell me to bugger off if that's too personal a question.
I wish you all the best girls, everything's crossed for BFPs for you all.
On 3 days post IUI HCG 3000iu for luteal support. The blood test is due on 16dpo which is Thursday 25th July. Nothing to do in the meantime except invest a small fortune in HPT's i suspect... We have a two pack of Discover tests in the medicine cupboard which we will not touch until at least 14dpo. Ok that we will at least TRY not to touch until 14dpo. Oh hell, who are we trying to fool here. Wish us luck!!!
Satya I'm sorry to hear that your mum is ill again. You must be so strong with everything that you've had to struggle through. Sorry to hear that ur DH missed out on a job too. Do you mind if I ask how much IVF costs? Can it be done in the public system?
Sounds like your SIL is one of those blissfully happy pg women who are just so annoying sometimes. IKWYM about being envious of pg women. I am trying really hard not to be bitter & twisted, but a lady at work is 7.5 mnths pg with twins. She makes offhand complaints about how her bubs keep turning through the night, keeping her awake, etc. And I think to myself that if her bubs stopped moving, now THAT would be something to complain about. So, I'm bitter and twisted despite myself *wry grin* Aw, its not their fault they are so blissfully happy. We would be too, I just wish it was us.
Lee & Sharon My "bender" was one pint! A combination of anemia and lack of practise! Janeo Nice to read your positivity. I hope it rubs off Shoegal I like your username & wish I'd thought of it. Maybe I'll call myself baglady! Good luck with testing on 22nd hun. I'll be thinking of you. Salt Hi sweets! I didn't realise that you'd been ttc for 2 cycles since your m/c. Don't beat yourself up over it so much, 2 cycles isn't that long really (even though it feels like an eternity). I hope this is your month too. How are your parents doing? Sharon I'm dissappointed too that AF showed up. I thought your symptoms sounded so promising. Sweetpetite I am so sorry that you lost your little bub(s). I hope your cloud of depression has lifted a little. I think the other ladies gave good advice about seeking counselling. But still, feel free to share your pain here. Also, you said "He says he doesn't want another so I feel he was relieved by this loss". It sounds like you haven't asked him directly whether he was releived? Maybe he is saying he doesn't want another kid to protect you both. I know that my DH would rather not have kids than see me in pain. Do you think you can talk to him about how you are feeling, and how he's feeling too? Sorry if this is too intrusive, cos we don't exactly know each other One other thing, why wasn't the technician sure whether or not you were carrying twins? Kerry Sounds like you had a well timed week off work? Glad your presentation went well (always a relief when its over, isn't it). BritKane Bummer about the HCG, I'm in the same boat. Well done with the poker tournament though. CrossingMyFingers Welcome, and I am sorry for your loss. I hope it is a short sweet journey for you. MegsMum - ono, the clomid sounds aweful! But hopefully it will all be worth it. IKWYM about being a bit bummed and needing a bit of time. I hope you feel more positive soon and that you get a BFP too. Sienna Good luck for your first IVF cycle. I'm hoping you get a sticky bub (or maybe two?) in your first try. Penny Ooh! 2weeks! I'm jealous. I'm waiting for AF too... well, actually, I am waiting to stop m/c, so that I can start waiting for AF. How much of my life am I going to spend waiting? But, prev m/c, AF came after 31 days after my d&c, my usual cycle. zionsMum ono! Bad news about the ankle. I hope you get some good sympathy and pampering for it, of the ring-a-bell-for-your-slippers kind. Lee Good to hear from you again! It must be hard for you, cos at every stage of your pg, you'll be reminded of your previous one? But, I hope you can move on, because I actually want you to be a blissfully happy pg lady! Clairabel! Its good to see you too! I've got to admit, I found it really hard to read your BB posts for a while. I just kept looking at your adorable ticker and thinking that that was where I should be. I think we were only a few days apart. But, I'm at a better mental place now (thank goodness!). I don't know when we will ttc again. I have an appt with the recurrent m/c clinic on 4th Sept!! And if I am pg, they cancel the appt. Besides, I'm still bleeding from the m/c, so I think I am a long way off from ttc. I also wanted to go to Russia/Latvia/Lithuania for a couple of weeks in Aug. But I have to do a BT on the second day of AF, and if I'm somewhere in Eastern Europe, I don't think I can manage that. I am going to try to keep up with how you, Lee and Bun are doing in the pg after m/c thread. 2Mums - LOL! Good luck!
On Sunday, we went to a garden party at our friends' place. They've just gotten engaged, bought & renovated an appartment. Their place is the sort of place you could raise kids in, and I never thought that possible in London. The appt backs onto a huge communal but private garden, and on Sunday, it was full of neighbouring families w kids. They were doing egg & spoon races, sack races, tug of war, face painting, you name it. It was just so lovely, and I never knew anything like that existed in central London.
But, it just made me feel so homesick and like my life is so off track. Before I started m/c, DH & I were expecting twins. They could easily have been our entire family. We were going to go home in Sept, to our beautiful little appt in Sydney and our loving family. My work contract was finishing up at the end of July, and so was DH's project at work, so it was the perfect time to leave. We were going to fill the gap with a bit of mild holidaying.
But now, I am still m/cing. I will be unemployed in 2 weeks. DH will keep working at a job he hates because he isn't a quitter. We live in a tiny rental appt that's unfit for cats, let alone kids. We have no prospect of going home anytime soon and no prospect of a hug from my mum anytime soon We can't travel cos I have to do BTs on 2nd day of AF for the recurrent m/c clinic, and I have no idea when that's going to happen.
Why did my life go so wrong? I just keep ignoring everything and hoping it will all get better by itself. But it won't. I have to look for work.
I think it would all be a lot better if I could keep working where I am. But I don't think that's going to happen. Talking myself up to agents isn't going to be easy when I feel like a dismal failure.
oh, its not really all that bad. I'm a bit of a drama queen. I'm almost addicted to the sympathy I've had recently
Zionsmom that ankle must have hurt - I wish you a speedy recovery.
Twomums - good luck with your two week wait and try to stay away from the HPTs.
Sharon - I'm so sorry about AF arriving. Perhaps you could try a couple of months of not tracking things.... that's how I fell pregnant earlier this year. At least that would be less stressful than watching every little thing like we do now. How long have you been ttcing (from when you first started before m/c)?
Kbowman - yes I do drink green tea & heaps of water. I haven't tried preseed and my DF doesn't want me to buy it. He thinks I'm spending too much money on everything else and wants me to stop it all (as none of it seems to be working) and just wait for IVF.
Lee - thanks for the encouragement. I wish I had your positivity but at my age (41) there is a good possibility that this will not happen for me, particularly with my bad ttc history. I mostly do feel positive about it though as I keep seeing women my age get lucky, but I do also see a lot that don't. I just wish my lap would hurry up and happen so I can get going on IVF as soon as I can as I think its looking like my best chance at a successful pregnancy. I hope you don't get the flu as thats not good to get while you are pg. Damn those hormones of yours, they really are not making life easy for you right now.
Pash - IVF is done publicly but it's not cheap. The cost varies on what kind of treatment you have to have. I have seen some women who say they are about $500 out of pocket per cycle, others around the $1500 mark, and the odd one that says as much as $5000. Some drugs increase the price dramatically as do some tests. I just hope I fall in to the lower cost category as we don't have much stashed away. The good news is I don't have to see my SIL very much so I wont have to go through that trauma very often during the pregnancy. If you are so unhappy right now perhaps you should consider coming home early. Have you thought about doing that? I can't imagine how hard it would be going through everything you have without being able to have a hug from your mum. The outing in the park sounded lovely, I can see how that could've triggered some major home sickness.
CD12 for me today. No sign of EWCM. I am sooooo over everyone's baby news.... it just keeps on coming at me. Another woman at work just had a new grand child enter the world, a couple of guys at work have wives that are pregnant (one due around when I was), another lady at work is expecting a grand child very soon. To top it off a girl at work has a friend who is expecting triplets, so I had to sit through lots of talk about that yesterday, how she looks full term already even though she's only 20 weeks (I would have been 22 weeks now). I'm just so over it. Gone are the days of being stalked by pregnant women every time I left the house, now I'm just surrounded by pregnancy chatter wherever I go. Please remind me when I am eventually pregnant again not to discuss my pregnancy in public ever!!!
I sort of feel like im intruding on people here, you all seem so close. I think this is were i belong at the moment as I had a m/c on sunday, and i want to start trying straight away.
I know that you should wait till you have had a full cycle but im just determined to start now. I have not heard any medical reasons why i should wait, just ones that seem to make it easier to date a future pregnancy.
I stopped bleeding today and i know that i maynot even ovulate at all this cycle but i figure there is nothing to stop us from ttc. Knowing when i ovulate might be a problem. I dont really understand all the tempreture stuff.
I hope im not intruding in here, i just really feel like i need to belong somewhere.
For everyone - im sorry for your losses and i hope that your journey to conception is short.
Hope your luck with the cards is matched with equally good news with the BT results today. Everything's crossed for you!! 
. Good luck with ttc!
i wish you lots of luck as well.
thanks everyone for your kind words it helps alot!
So not long now before you'll be able to "get jiggy with it", lol.
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