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thread: TTC after Miscarriage or Loss ~ March 08

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  1. #1
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    Feb 2008
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    Angel - I also heard about Biggest Loser that their week is more like 9 - 14 days so their "weekly" loss is greater. That and they have no life. Makes me question some of the people they have highlighted too. Like those 2 guys who didn't make it in yet one of them manages to train 5 times a day??? Obviously someone is a dole bludger!!!

    Danielsgirl - I am truly sorry for your loss. Everyone here understands how you feel but I promise you there is nothing that you did, or could have done, to change what happened. My DH and I also lost our first pregnancy in November 07 and we are TTC again. I hope that we all get a BFP soon and then deal with the nerves of being pg!

    Natty - your friend is assuming that you ovulate on CD14 and this is not always the case. I have a regular 28 day cycle but o on CD16 (or have for the last two months I have been charting anyway!) Unless your DH has some problem with his swimmers there is no reason why you can't BD every second night! If it has happened before why wouldn't it again? Has your friend ever been pg? If so that may have worked for her but everyone is different and have different things work for them!

    As for me, feeling crampy and gassy the last couple of days, not good signs, think AF is on her way. Will POAS Sunday morning but not much hope this month. Not sure what else we can do. We chart, use OPK's, BD for the nights we need to, I have been relaxed all month, trying not to think about it all. What else is there????

  2. #2
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    Jan 2008
    Mackay
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    Welcome Danielsgirl, you have come to the right place. I'm so sorry for your loss, big hugs After my MC, with the help of the BB girls, I eventually let go and accepted that its just natures way (after many neurotic moments where I too felt like a failure and blamed myself for drinking a cup of coffee or going too hard at the gym!). There is nothing you could have done, not all of our eggs can be perfect, and not all of our DH's sperm can be perfect. BUT, there are some perfect ones and you will get your baby. Chin up.

    Welcome too Natty, I am so sorry for your loss, big hugs to you too Yeah,I agree with Berecca, your friend is probaby just telling you what worked for her and from my short time with BB I can see that we are all sooooo different. It sounds like the perfect way to conceive to me, cos sperm live for 3-5 days, so even if you dont BD on O day, you will either be BDing on the day before or the day after so you should be in with a pretty good chance. Good luck, stick around and keep us informed.

  3. #3
    Natty Guest

    Thanks Jodie and Bec. My girlfriend is TTC#1 and is going by the book Natural Fertility. She seems to think that by BDing too often then the swimmers will be diluted and there wont be too many left by the time you BD just prior/when you ovulate (hence reducing the likelihood that a swimmer will penetrate the egg).

    I guess for me, like most of us, I just want to be pregnant soon - especially given that is all I have thought about since our m/c!

    Natty

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    Jan 2008
    573

    Danielsgirl & Nattie

    I really do seriously hate welcoming people into our little thread. I hate the fact that another person has gone through what we have gone through. Danielsgirl and Nattie..... I hate to welcome you.... but Welcome. Hopefully you wont be here for long. Its such a strange little place... we don t want anyone here and we want those that are here gone...... gone off into the world of Pregnant after Miscarriage. So here s to neither of you staying here for long..... or any of us for that matter

    My absolute number one piece of advice..... Do what is right for you! Dont worry about other peoples opinions on what you should be doing or not doing.... You morn your loss in your way ONE DAY AT A TIME! When you feel that its time to TTC again then go for it... most Dr s will say wait until after your first period after miscarriage..... but that didnt stop me or for that matter most of the (wonderful) ladies in here. You do what is right for you! The biggest thing the highest proirity is for you to heal. Only you know how to do that.

    Soooo welcome to our little group...... put forward what your best cyber cake recipee is...... its a volunteer thing with the cakes..... and huge hugs to you both

    Now Nickster.... Katiegirl.....Starrysky........ and all the other BFP s still lurking around (cause we dont want you to leave ) I was havin a chat to my accupunturist today. She is convinced that this cycle is going to be the "winner" I had to inform her that our biggest hurdle at the moment was DH and I actually talking to each other during "o". Annnnnywayyyyy I started talking to her about you guys. About how difficult it is once you are BFP. She looked at me shocked and asked why, I explained it to her and she understood but she told me to instruct you all to go and see a chinese herbalist. Apparently there is some wonder thing available (6 herbs or whatever in it).....gee you can tell I pay attention to everything.... Annnnywayyyyy this capsual is available world wide that is a combination of herbs to assist in the longevity of the pregnancy after miscarriage... Now I m not claiming to be any chinese herb guru.... I can say that I take upwards of 20 per day and if I end up with a BFP that sticks... then thats a hell of a lot better than IVF could do..... I look at my accupunturist, she is mid 50s with the energy I ve only seen in teenages. She is a little pocket rocket that is just vibrant. Energy levels that I would be dangerours with. (hey maybe that would put a smile back on DH).... i m sorry... I keep digressing tonight.... Annnnywayyyyy if your interested I will email her and ask her for more information. I think you would probably have to message me for me to be able to pass the information on. Last time I put something in a thread it was classed as inapropriate to do so and i got my hand smacked by BB..... Ohhhh I m a rebel with a bad mark next to my name. I will try not to lead you all astray.

    You see... I m digressing again....If your interested let me know. I will say... I have NEVER had ovary pain.... I ve read about the twinges you get during "o" I now get them.... i now get a lot of things I never used to get.

    Ok.... Going now....

  5. #5
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    Jan 2008
    Yorkshire, UK
    105

    Hi Girls,
    Got to be quick as I'm on my way out for a run (again)

    Welcome to Daniels Girl and Nattie. Dont worry about being new, everyone here is really friendly and we are glad that you have found us (although not glad that you needed to, as Angel says.) Sorry for your losses. You will find lots of advice and support here. About the BD question- I recently heard an OB say that it is best to DTD about 2 or 3 times per week (so about every other day, really) throughout the cycle. Well, who knows, really? I reckon they're all just guessing!! Lots of luck to you both for two BFPs pretty soon.

    Tina- So sorry about your guests arriving at the wrong time! Has had me in giggles here! I think you're gonna have to sneak out, just dont get caught, tee hee!

    Tempus- We have crocuses galore in our local park. I wouldnt get too jelous, though, the weather here is just hideous- 80mph winds and storms- yuk!

    Speaking of the weather, I'm going to go out and run in it now. Hmm, wish it was sunny and warm! Angel B, well done on the .8kg. Are you sticking to that greulling exercise regime? Good on you.

    Got to go. My ticker is still all wrong. Ticker factory was not working- well, it'll have to stay wrong for now. Bye!

  6. #6
    Registered User

    Feb 2008
    168

    hi ladies

    hello and welcome to danielsgirl and natty, sorry for your losses and hope your stay is short.

    hey berecca- i was saying the same thing a couple of nights ago when i got AF- i charted, used OPK's, DTD as much as humanly possible so what else can i do?? i guess i am realising that there is so little about all this that is within our control...i have changed my expectations a bit and instead of saying i think it's going to be this month i am sort of thinking it will take around 12 months...that way i won't keep getting so disapointed and if it does happen sooner i will be pleasantly surprised...

    but listen, you should be taking the same advice you gave me in the TWW thread- it ain't over till AF shows up!!! so don't give up hope yet and you get a BFP when you test sunday morning.

    to all the other lovely ladies a big hello and a big

  7. #7
    Registered User

    Jan 2008
    Southwest of England
    66

    welcome Danielsgirl and Natty- so very sorry to hear your sad news. I hope you find comfort and the answers you need from the wonderful ladies here :hugs:

    Thanks for the gorgeous cyber-cake Angel- very scrummy indeed! Congrats on your fitness kick, lookin' good hun x

    Hi to all, huge hugs all round and good luck this month xxxxxxxx

    When we were TTC we bd'd every other night/day (no matter what) when I thought I was due to 'o'- and even a couple of times either side to cover all the bases. (Then I went off bd completely for weeks- either my body already knew it was successful- or it was just rebelling due to the overdose of jigginess )
    Anywayyyyyyyyy (Angel! that's your fault) every 2 days worked for us, so really heartfelt best wishes to those who are getting jiggy xxxxxxxxxxx

    Canary- my ticker got stuck ages ago and I couldn't sort it out so I just did myself a new one and replaced it- it was fine after (and I could still use the same design.) if you still have no luck try lilliepie x
    Last edited by nicksterUK; March 13th, 2008 at 06:26 AM. : added fingers crossed for extra good luck x

  8. #8
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    Jun 2007
    the love boat
    873

    Hello All,

    Danielsgirl and Natty, im so sorry for your losses, i hope your stay is short.

    Angel babies - Im in Brisbane and would love the name and address, could you pm it to me....thanks heaps. I have decided that i am not going continue trying once i reach 37 and im going to be 36 this year, so i need to get a move on.

    Tempus - I agree, it really puts me down when i get attitude from people like that, even if they are meaning well.....its very disheartning.

    Everyone else - im sorry for the lack of personals, im running late getting my son ready for school.
    I hope your all doing really well and im praying we get some more bfp's in here soon.

    Hugs to all
    treelo

  9. #9
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    Jan 2008
    Sutherland Shire, NSW
    38

    Hello and welcome to the newbies. My sentiments echo the ones above - nice to have you here, but wish you didn't have to be here IYKWIM!!!

    Well, it's been a long week for us, I can't wait until tomorrow to POAS again, so I think I will do it today and get it over with. I need to know more - we are away camping next weekend with friends and want to know whether I need to 'keep mum' or whether I can drink and waterski all weekend!!! Of course, if it's -, then I'll no doubt be heartbroken, but if it's still +, then all the better. I can then move forward to the next step and do the bloods.

    So, I will be back with POAS results some time today.

    to everyone else, will write more tonight.

  10. #10
    Registered User

    Jan 2008
    173

    Hello Everyone

    I am with Angel Welcome to Natty and Danielsgirl i hope you find the support and answers to your questions here, but i also hope your visit is a short one.
    I have found everyone to be very supportive here and whether you are having a great day or a bad day we are all here for you.

    News about my dad... i heard from mum that he is ok and the radiation is not effecting him as yet. I am hoping to see him today which will help me alot as i just really want to see him. Then i can let my sister know how he really is as mum does cover things up a bit and my sisiter is not able to come and visit as she is a 2 1/2 hour drive away.

    Brockstar - goodluck with you POAS i look forward to hearing the outcome

    Betty - I am glad you had a nice time away on your own sometimes we just need that time for ourselves

    Angel - Well done on your lose of .8. That is fantastic

    To everyone that i have missed hello and i hope all is well in your neck of the woods. I wish everyone a BFP soon

    Chast soon
    Trac

  11. #11
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    Oct 2007
    Pennsylvania
    473

    AF is done, we get to start DTD tonight, and I had really good mucus these last few days despite being on clomid (a possible side effect is it dries up your mucus). I'm really feeling hopeful and positive for the first time in months.

    smilanatu: congrats on af! It's not too often I get to write that phrase on this site, LOL!

    pbstar: love your attitude!

    danielsgirl1113: I"m so sorry for your loss. I'll keep you in my prayers and sending cyberhug

    Natty: I'm so sorry you had to go through all that. I'm praying for you
    There are no hard and fast rules of how to get preg, but my friend who's had a bunch of babies swears by the every other day rule starting after af ends

    berecca623: Just remember not to let baby-making take over your whole life (yeah, easier said than done, and I was totally obsessed before our first). It won't make a baby come any faster, but it will make the wait less painful. I"m pulling for you.

    Canary: after I posted my last message, I asked the kids if they'd seen crocuses and they said yeah, we had one, but the baby picked it (the baby is five) *double sigh*

    Trac73: still praying really hard for your dad.

  12. #12
    danielsgirl1113 Guest

    Thank you for the warm welcome!

    Hi everyone,
    Thank you for the warm welcome. I'm so glad I found this site. I didnt even know sites like this exsisted, but thank God they do. I am not use to some of the abbreviations that you use on here, ( I have a good idea what some of them mean but as for the acutal words I'm at a loss. ) I am looking forward to recovering from my D & C so that my husband and I can resume our bedroom life. When I was having complications with my pregnancy the Dr said to hold off until my next appointment ( a month later ) and then when we went to the appointment we found out that we lost our angel. I know everyone is different as far as the recovery from a D&C, I hope I recover soon. I had it done on the 7th. I didnt have any bleeding at all until some spotting on the 10th and then an actual "flow" on the 11th that I still have. ( Please forgive me if this is TMI, I'm sorry! ) I am awaiting my Dr's appointment on the 27th of this month, ( The day after my 27th birthday). I hope that all goes well and that she says we can try for a baby again soon. I found a charm online that is for women who had experienced a M/C and my husband is going to order it for me. I think it will help to have something close to me to phyically remind me of my angel, eventhough I will never forget. I'm sorry for rambling, I hope each of you have a great day, and I hope for good news for everyone! Hugs!!
    Last edited by danielsgirl1113; March 13th, 2008 at 10:05 AM.

  13. #13
    Registered User

    Jan 2008
    Indiana, USA
    400

    Okay, so this is our first "official" try since mc. We did BD all week, my fingers are crossed!

    Welcome danielsgirl,Seenabeena and any others I may have read over. As the other ladies have stated I am truly sorry for your losses, but this forum and the wonderful ladies in it will give you hope!

    Congrats to all the BFPs!!!

    Everyone have a wonderful weekend!

  14. #14
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    Feb 2008
    Sydney :)
    317

    wow!

    well girls, ive been away from my computer for a few days, and have sooo much to catch up on!I have had a friend and her beautiful 10 month old bub staying over for a few days..it was so wonderful to play with him,a nd hold him in my arms...so hanging to have my own to hold....

    firstly:
    Danielsgirl, Natty & seenabeena - welcome. as everyone else has said, so sorry you have to be here, but its a wonderful source of support.

    to all the BFP's: girls, my thoughts are with you, wishing you all wonderful healthy pregnancies

    to everyone else, im really praying that a few more of us get BFP's tis month, and get some xmas present babies!

    thanks to all of you who have offered words of wisdom re BDing when parents are next door! you all brought a smile to my face! Not sure if well be albe to sneak out, definitely no beach around here, but i guess well just have to be really quiet! Im def not missing out on this opportunity...when its "o" time its "o" time!!!!!!!

    Have a lovely weekend...

  15. #15
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    Jan 2008
    Mackay
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    Hi everyone, thanks for all your support, aweful day yesterday, first time I have seen my Dad cry Glad its over though.

    Geez I'm feeling grumpy and hormonal today, I am due to O tomorrow but it's really coming on strong. I must have some weird hormonal balance, after my really lumpy boobs leading up to AF, I have had the worst stomach/uterus/ovary cramps leading up to O this week. I usually only have slight ovary pain for a couple of hours when I O but it's going to be more difficult to detect this month (I dont do temps). Bit annoying since we were trying the 2 day cut off to TTC a girl. Does anyone else get this full on hormonal lead up? Is it normal?

    Smilanatu - I'm so sorry for your loss, fingers crossed for you this month sweetie

    AJC - big hug sweetie . Hoping all the pregnant women at the resort did rub off on you and you get a BFP this month.

    Brockstar - It's sounding really promising, sending you lots of

    Tempus - Good luck hatching the eggies this week!!

    Trac - Thinking of you and your dad sweetie. Now you take some time out for you and get busy BDing

    Seenabeena - Welcome, but I am so sorry for your loss. I feel the same way as you, mixed emotions, terrified and excited about the prospect of a BFP again. We're all here to offer support and cyberhugs, hope you get a BFP really soon.

    Big hello to everyone else, sending you lots of

  16. #16
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    Jan 2008
    Melbourne, Australia
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    Hi ladies!!

    Jodsan - so sorry that u had such a crappy day yest - I remember the first time I saw my dad cry - you don't forget it. I have been known to get that full-on hormonal lead-up. More recently I was getting it with avengeance 2-3 days b4 AF - would want to just drink on my own and drown my sorrows. It hasn't happened since I had my lap. But during O time it varies - sometimes more pain, sometimes more nausea, sometimes it feels like AF. Take care of urself hun.

    tina -got to hold my friend's 2nd bub today (3 weeks old) and that was a great fix!! It was like I was imagining holding the bub I lost (2nd m/c) in june who would have been born a little earlier in Jan. Nice but sad.... U def need to bd at o time love. Another tip for when ur folks are over - I'm not necessarily recommending it by the way but my sil tells of the charming way my bro puts a cushion over her face (I'm sure she can still breathe) to stop any noise she might make DTD (sorry if TMI) but I laugh cos my sil is always more vocal about stuff like that and my bro is always so mortified - lol!! GL!

    AJC - chin up hun!! u need to vent - see below, I'm having a vent myself!

    Brockstar - take care of urself hun.

    danielsgirl - the boat sounds just like what the doc ordered - how wonderful!!

    Hi to smilanatu, tempus, trac, seenabeena, starrysky, katiegirl, mel a, bday buddy and all you other lovely lovely ladies.

    as for me, bit down, not one of my more cheery days. a friend of mine had a baby a month ago and came to visit today. I got my fix with lots of hugs. our boys are around the same age and she had her DD 19mths after her first which is the kind of gap I wanted between bubs 1 and 2. you and I know that, huge understatement, timing can be really off about these things (sigh) and they don't come as quickly as we would like. but then my friend said she wants to have the same gap between bubs 2 & 3. Ever since she said that I have felt so down - what she is doing is exactly what I wanted to do - and I just hate my circumstance and my own body in times like these. Tomorrow will be better and I will feel more positive again but today I feel my old sad feelings (a bit like being kicked in the teeth). thanks guys - just have to vent - want to cry tho.

  17. #17
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    Jun 2007
    Melbourne, Victoria
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    Hi to everyone. I hope you are having lovely weekends.

    TM - good to hear about your lap and I hope all goes well this cycle.

    PLC - sorry to hear you are a bit down. I always get a bit sad when I hear people talking about their baby plans. I think it might be partly because for all of us, our plans are tinged with sadness and anxiety, and yet other people talk about it like it is so easy. We of course know how this baby business is anything but easy! So big hug and I think you are amazing to be so strong.

    Well I have had an up and down day. When I woke this morning and went to the bathroom I noticed a brownish smear on the paper (sorry TMI). I of course got worried. I check an hour later and it was there again but only when I wiped. I then started to get worried and burst into tears with my mother. It just felt so hard, and I didn't feel I could stand more stress. Thankfully it appears to have stopped and I have been to the toilet a million times to check. My sister told me that she always get a brownish mucous in the early stages and then it goes away, so hoping that is all it is. I am anxious and I think I will call my Ob when I get back to Melbourne on Monday. I am glad I am here with my mum as I don't think I would have liked having DH's dad and best friend around at a time like this. I am trying to stay positive and not get too worried.

    Sorry for lack of personals - I just had to get that out. I am praying like mad!

    Good luck to you all on the 2WW and for those approaching O. I am praying for some more BFPs in here.

  18. #18
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    Feb 2008
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    Jodsan - I'm really sorry you had a crap day and saw your father cry, it is not a nice sight and you always feel helpless. However having said that maybe he really needed it? I think we sometimes underestimate the power of a good cry for men seeing as they rarely show such emotion! Hope things improve for you!

    PLC - I'm glad you enjoyed your day but I totally sympathise with you. Especially after gf just having had her 2nd and already talking about timing for her 3rd! Chin up sweetie I am sure it will happen for you soon! For ALL of us soon!!!

    Katiegirl - try not to stress too much and if you can't stop thinking about it go to your doc, I am sure there is something they could do to check it all out! My bff had that happen to her twice and is now happily and healthily 16 weeks pg, nothing bad at all! I am sure that is all it is for you, something inactive and nothing to worry about!

    As for me I have FINALLY finished weekend school, now just have to catch up on 2 weeks worth of lectures, readings and lab activities for 2 subjects, that and complete all 4 online activities that are marked plus find time for 4 assignments! No wonder I haev had no time to post on both of these forums (also TWW). Tomorrow morning is POAS for me so either way I will know what to expect for Monday! Wish me luck

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