Hi ladies!!

Jodsan - so sorry that u had such a crappy day yest - I remember the first time I saw my dad cry - you don't forget it. I have been known to get that full-on hormonal lead-up. More recently I was getting it with avengeance 2-3 days b4 AF - would want to just drink on my own and drown my sorrows. It hasn't happened since I had my lap. But during O time it varies - sometimes more pain, sometimes more nausea, sometimes it feels like AF. Take care of urself hun.

tina -got to hold my friend's 2nd bub today (3 weeks old) and that was a great fix!! It was like I was imagining holding the bub I lost (2nd m/c) in june who would have been born a little earlier in Jan. Nice but sad.... U def need to bd at o time love. Another tip for when ur folks are over - I'm not necessarily recommending it by the way but my sil tells of the charming way my bro puts a cushion over her face (I'm sure she can still breathe) to stop any noise she might make DTD (sorry if TMI) but I laugh cos my sil is always more vocal about stuff like that and my bro is always so mortified - lol!! GL!

AJC - chin up hun!! u need to vent - see below, I'm having a vent myself!

Brockstar - take care of urself hun.

danielsgirl - the boat sounds just like what the doc ordered - how wonderful!!

Hi to smilanatu, tempus, trac, seenabeena, starrysky, katiegirl, mel a, bday buddy and all you other lovely lovely ladies.

as for me, bit down, not one of my more cheery days. a friend of mine had a baby a month ago and came to visit today. I got my fix with lots of hugs. our boys are around the same age and she had her DD 19mths after her first which is the kind of gap I wanted between bubs 1 and 2. you and I know that, huge understatement, timing can be really off about these things (sigh) and they don't come as quickly as we would like. but then my friend said she wants to have the same gap between bubs 2 & 3. Ever since she said that I have felt so down - what she is doing is exactly what I wanted to do - and I just hate my circumstance and my own body in times like these. Tomorrow will be better and I will feel more positive again but today I feel my old sad feelings (a bit like being kicked in the teeth). thanks guys - just have to vent - want to cry tho.