thanks jo, i just wasn't sure if you or the other ladies wanted to hear it, not feeling overly confident though, trying to remain calm, although i usually go pale in the face the night before i get af, and that happened last night, also had a temp drop this morning, not a huge one, but significant enough, had a similar one 4 days ago, the test was darker again this morning, probably twice as much as yesterday, so i really don't know what is going on.