Babies Born February 16th-28th 2009 #3

[Muffy]

Ok im not doing personals tonight as im having an early night.

i have had the WORST 2 days so far this year...

Yesterday i found out that my cousins dad passed away from a heart attack. He was supposed to be having a bypass soon and yesterday he had an appointment to get die put through (i think that is to see blockages??) anyway he postponed the app until monday because he didnt want to upset his daughter as it was her mum's (his ex wife) birthday yesterday also and they were going out for lunch. He died roughly around lunch time. all i can think of is that if he had of gone to his app he would still be here!! instaed we are having his funeral on monday

AS FOR TODAY...It all started when i had to go to the doctors at 3pm, i had to get bellas bum checked out (as some of you might remember from an earlier post) and the doctor said "ok yep she does have spina biffida, i cant feel the bottom of her spine and there is a gap where there shouldnt be a gap!!"
My heart dropped into my stomach, i felt soo sick and all i wanted to do was cry. He asked me if i had been taking folic acid throughout the pregnancy (well actually he was trying to imply that i hadnt taken it) and i said yes i took it religiously as well as iron tablets.
He showed me all these different diagrams and printed me out some information on spina biffida- he also said you need to see a paed right away and we also need to get some X-rays done.
Before i went to the paed i had to get bellas needles she was a little trooper though she only squealed a tiny bit when the needles actually went in...

Ok so i ended up at the paed's at about 4:10pm and sat in the waiting room until 4:45 and then i finally got called in, he checked everything out and said "nope she is completely fine"
WHAT THE HELL

[Malyna]

Nai - 5km walk.. think I'll have to go back to bed.. feel exhausted already!

Kaz - way to go getting out of the house. I remember my first solo outing with Alex - had to feed him when I got him out of the car seat to settle (although he fed before we left home - a whole 20 minutes before hand), then feed him when I got back to the car. Both feeds took 40 minutes. Happy to report that he is now feeding a little quicker.. well sometimes. Now I just bung him in the car seat.


AFM - plan is to go out with MIL to a garden centre to look at plants (my version of retail therapy).. good thing the car is filled with baby stuff, so there isn't much room for plants!!

[Muffy]

i did a massive post, now i cant see it?

ETA - its ok i can see it now, had to hit refresh a few times!!

[AliBaby]

oh Laura I was in tears reading that and was so relieved when the otrher doctor said that no she was fine....well thank goodness. I cant believe that doctor making a massive statement like that!!! I would be making a complaint about him hun although I am sure it is the last thing on your mind right now. Give you r little Bella big cuddles from me and bug to you as well. Oh and that is so sad about your cousins dad. I hope your cousin doesnt think it is her fault. Even if he had gone to the appointment, he still may have had the heart attack. It is very sad though. You poor thing, you are having a rought trot at the moment.

Kaz- Great work on the outing! Good to start out small and build conficence, soon you will be driving J everywhere having little outings! You should feel very proud.

Nai- You are going to be in the best shape! I cant believe how well you are doing after a c-section!!! You have inspired me to get my butt into gear. DP is getting a mates (who is overseas) treadmill out of storage for me on the weekend. MIght make it a little easier to work out (esp in winter).

Shell- Funny you say that about the vaccum, the other day I vaccumed right past DD and she didnt wake up. I heard babies like white noise (like fuzzy tv station, hairdryer, vaccum) so will remember to try that next time DD is having one of her moments. At least my floor will be clean!

AFM- GOing to lunch with another gf today. I am walking up so will get a bit of exercise. Must go and get ready and get some washing hung out as well.

[Kailani]

Laura, what a horrible time you've had I'm so sorry about your cousin's dad. My heart sank when I read that Bella was told she had Spina Bifida but I'm sooo relieved to hear she actually doesn't - what a knob of a doctor. Find a new GP hun!

Nai, a 5km walk wowwee! Wish I was that motivated...I should be coz I have so much baby fat to lose!

Ali, have a nice outing! I'm going out for lunch with a gf too. Down at St Kilda so will take L for a nice walk along the beach

Tarkine, have a good day today - you can never have too many beautiful plants!

Det Hope you got some decent sleep last night. I can't believe how much you manage with the kids!

Kaz - yay on the weight gain! That is fantastic news! Haha I'm just waiting for the plateau now...which I've been told will happen "very soon" at every appointment! "Oh, this won't continue, you'll notice L's weight gains stablising now"....ummm nope!

AFM, going out for lunch today and then dinner for DP's 21st! (which is actually on Sunday). We're going to a Korean restaurant...never had Korean before, I've heard it's like Japanese but spicier?

[shellbell3]

Laura- So glad to hear everything is fine with Bella, you had my heart drop into my feet! Thank god you got into the paed straight away and didn't have to wait weeks! Grr at the Dr putting you thru that, I wouldn't be seeing him again, some Drs just have no idea. Sorry to hear bout your cousins dad, its horrible there he was thinking of everyone else and putting his appt back, very sad.

Holly- Its my sisters b'day today too. Happy birthday to yr DP, makes me Df look old, he just celebrated his big 40th on Wed, he's having party tomor. Not had Korean hope its nice.

Ali- What pita about appt, she could've at least tried to squeeze you in then and there considering you have such a young bub with you. I know mine would have.

Kaz- That is fantastic, all that hard work has paid off. Very normal about drop in supply in evenings, I find in the mornings Em will only really have one side but evenings she pretty much drains both breasts.

Nai- 5km walk! I struggle with 1km, lol. Df said to me now I'm using vacuum for Em I could use it for its true purpose, hmmm maybe I will get to it.

Tarkine- Thats great your hubby has contract for 3 months, will there be a possibility of it being extended after the 3 months? Must be such a relief to you both to get some income coming in.

Det- Thinking of you for your nans funeral, I'm guessing its today as you said you were writing the eulogy.

[Heaven]

Hello everyone!!
OMG I'm lost, I haven't been able to reply for a few days bc DD has been so unsettled and a pain in the bum. But I think it's my fault I think I just worked out what her problem was when reading some other threads. She hasn't been sleeping for more than an hr for the last week and the last couple of days has been having some tummy pains I think. Anyways, I think I was swapping breasts too early when feeding when she would come off but it was just coz she needed to burp. So she was getting too much foremilk giving her an upset tummy and not enough hindmilk to make her satisfied for long. So last feed she had one side for 25mins then a couple of sucks on the other side and now she's been asleep for 2.5hrs!!
Hopefully she keeps this up and I can catch up!

[~Kaz~]

Laura - So sorry to hear about your cousins Dad hun. And another for that scare the doc gave you. They get so business like sometimes, I think they forget that there are emotions involved in medical things, esp. something like spina biffida. So glad your DD is ok.
Det - Was thinking of you today with the funeral. Hope you're ok hun.
Holly - Happy B'day to your DP!! Hope you're enjoying the Korean. Sounds yum!
Ali - Did you enjoy your lunch today?
Tarkine - Hope you found some room for plants in your car!! Jacob's feeds take a minimum of 40 mins atm too. Can't wait until he's quicker.
Heaven - I'm glad you got Grace's unsettled behaviour sorted out. I don't get that whole foremilk/hindmilk thing though. How do you know when it changes over? Some feeds (evenings) I can't get Jacob to feed longer than 10 mins on each side.

AFM - Jacob has fed every 2 hours (give or take 10 mins) since 7am. He is hopefully having a growth spurt! I have only expressed twice today because feeding him on demand is better at getting/keeping my supply up. Is there any way to increase supply in the evenings? I think he is unsettled in the evenings because he is hungry

[mytwinangels]

Hi Tracey

The photo is beautiful I have one done too with both of my girls names.

hi all,

I think it is really special, you try anything you can to honour the baby you have lost.
At the moment collecting teddy bears as well, off the local school and playgroups to give to the bubs in NICU in memory of Milana, a teddy is given to each baby in there, it will have a tag on it with Milana's name and DOB on. The group that runs it is called teddy love club or bears of hope (can also google them) they run all over Australia, they are trying to cover all hospitals.
,

I was reading your post about the teddy love club. I am Trudi, I started TLC in 2002 I am so moved that your teddy bear means so much to you. It is very special to donate bears in memory of your baby we have families contact us from all over Australia doing this reaching out to more bereaved families.


Warm wishes
Trudi
Teddy Love Club Co Founder

[diva det]

Kaz- just keep feeding and your supply will work itself out! Just keep going! Its taken 10 week for my boobies to finally start to sort themselves out and keep my supply up at the right times that he tends to want it! Baby wearing is another way to build up your supply as well, or even some kangaroo cuddles! Thanks Heaven for reminding me!!

just a quick one here- gonna have a bath and go to bed!
had nan's funeral today- it was good, but draining. Euology went well- i even got a clap at the end- lol My mum was happy with everything so that is what matters.
kids were fine- DS got really upset when the coffin went down and then he set off the whole room bawling as well- esp all the men- it was amazing - like a big release for everyone. DD withdrew- that is what she does- she goes really quiet. I know it has to come out in the end so i am waiting- she will be fragile until it does - so kid gloves on.
Levi fed just b4 i had to speak and went straight to sleep and zzz the rest when i needed him to- what a champ!

off to auskick in the morning with them all- stars at 8.30 - yawn!!! arnt i lucky! WHOOT NOT!!! its suppose to be DH thing but he has to work tommorow grr. ah well

kids only went to sleep at 10.30pm tonite so its gonna be a loooong day tommorow. Off to brunch at yum cha on sun and then the home show with my brunching besties- so that will be good! Just me and the girls and the boobie boy! LOL

back for personal tommorow
what a week!
mwah

[lilima]

Hi all,
Again jsut wanted to say that I am around, just suoer busy.

I have been reading everyones posts though.

Shell - tried the vacc thing. No luck here!

E is still only sleeping for up to 40 mins at a time, and that is all I can get out of her. Then it is the loooooong process of resettling her continually till the next feed. DH is meant to be helping me out as he is now home from the hol house, and wouldn't you know it, he has nicked off outside and left me to deal with the 2 kids. J is having a "rest" in his room, but won't sleep no doubt. He was up at 5:30 this morning.

E was up at 1:30, then 3:30 when I was too tired to deal with it allm, so I put her in with me. she was doing really well, and going about 8 hours, but we have regressed back to about 5 hours till first feed, then every 2 hour after that. "sigh" J was pretty much sleeping through by now at her age. Ah well, I am less tired than I was when pregnant!!!
J is still being a pain in the bum. Having tanties when he doesn't get his own way, and just general misbehaviour. He does it the worst for me. Not too bad for his dad (probably as he is never around so he sees his dad as fun) He is wonderful for my mum and mil, so they have both offered to have him. That makes me feel like I a "getting rid" of him because he is being naughty. So I have declined for the moment unless I stay there too, so he sees that I want him near me.

Might take the kids for a nice long walk this arvo. Fresh air, and the fact I still need to shift about 10kg!

[AliBaby]

Holly- have fun at dp's 21st tonight. never had korean either so you"ll have to let us know what its like. Hope master L is being good for you.
Shell- I would have thought she would have squeezed me in but no. I did have better luck at the doctors today though. I was a really young girl on reception and when she read that DD was only 5 wks she pushed me to the front of the list so i didnt have to wait. I thought that was very considerate esp from someone so young.
Heaven-i had the exact same problem with the overfeeding causing more problems. As soon as i stretched it out to 3hourly the wind pains and major unsettledness stopped. I also only feed from one side. i am lucky enough to have heaps of milk and i make sure that she fully drains the breast although i can always squeeze a bit more out. Then i feed from the other boob the next feed.

Oh dear, i just realised that my foot is taping like it is bouncing the bouncer only my foot is on the ground and dd is in my arms,not the bouncer......hmmmm think my foot is just used to doing it that i do it without thinking!!!!

ok where was i......

Kaz- you are doing a great job with our little man! Good work on the weight gain and yep sounds like a growth spurt. Lunch was really good thanks. its been nice to catch up with some gf's.
Det- glad the funeral went well. They are always difficult so well done for making the eulogy and DS sounds like he was a champ. Hope the kids are okay and you too
Megie- i hope your walk is good and that DH gives you a break this arvo. I would just tell him for your sanity you need to go out by yourself, pick up the keys and say you will be home in an hour. I had to do that a few weekends ago. I ddnt give him a choice i just said DD is fed and I am out for an hour.

AFM- well DP and I DTD last night.....hmmmm....things sure feel different, it didnt hurt but i didnt like it...it just didnt feel good and sorry for TMI but i felt less sensitive IYKWIM? Maybe my g spot is gone??? I think i need to speak to somene more about this because I am a little concerned about a few things.

Also was back at the doctors with dd today. A different rash has come up on one of dd'd cheeks and also on her chest. Doc said to switch to QV but also that she has some sort of rash quite common in babies but i cant remember what its called. its not milk rash, it has a long name. She said it will go away soon.

I bought a new mat bra today. Myer have 25% off and a great range. Nothing else happenig. DP is at work again today and the dogs have been driving me nuts today but i feel for them as they havent been for a walk in almost 2 wks!! poor things...

[Heaven]

laura- What a stupid Dr!!!!!!!!!!!!
Kaz- Well, they say they should have up to 20mins on one side so if DD comes off I just keep putting her back on the same side up to 20mins and then if she still wants more I put her on the other side. So hopefully this means she's getting the hindmilk. BUT I can barely get her to have 10mins on one side!!!! Don't know if she's just getting faster or what, hope she's having enough, I feel like I'm having to force feed her!! Just keep feeding in the evenings and he will be getting milk, don't worry. Even if they feel empty there is always milk there promise!
det- sorry to hear about your nan Well done on the eulogy.
Meg- Having problems getting DD to sleep too, esp at night. She wakes at 3.30am and then it feels like she never goes back to sleep!!
Ali- I have heaps of milk too, boobs are always hard between feeds still! Just fed DD and struggled to get her to have 10mins, wtf! And my BB felt like there was still milk there, not completely empty, although it was pretty full at the start and she was gulping like mad so I guess she's had enough? She's gone to sleep anyway. It's so confusing, I feel like I'm always trying to make her have more and she's fighting me, lol. How long does A feed for?

[shellbell3]

Well I feel Em is getting a little more settled still struggles with her wind and poo but the last couple days it hasn't seemed as bad, hasn't been bad enough for me to use the infacol drops so good sign. Still not going all that long overnight, seems to wake at same times, always around 1am then again at 4-5am and that feed seems to take a little while to settle afterwards.

Heaven- its hard isn't it, Em never goes for 20mins on a boob I just keep offering the one side and when it seems she is coming on/ off constant or doing this quick type of shallow suck (if that makes sense), like there is nothing left I assume then that side is done and switch to the next.

Ali- yay on dtd, maybe it takes time for it to really properly get back to normal down there? Its been thru a lot, maybe post somewhere on here about it. We didn't dtd til Ash was nearly 6 months so things were def back to nbormal by then.

Meg- I agree with others leave the kids with him and go out shopping or do something nice for yourself. Ash too was going 8hrs by this stage, altho by 12 weeks she did regress. Hope J settles soon for you. We have probs with Ash being very sensitive like crying very easily and also been very fearful of everything lately.

Det- sounds like a nice send off for your nan, glad your eulogy went well, i would've found it hard to get up and do it.

Had DF's 40th birthday party today, turned out well, was a sit down late lunch, lots kids there so Ash had a ball, think Df enjoyed himself, he is still out kicking on well into the night so I'm on my own with the 2 kids. Em sleeps so well with noise, she fell asleep on the way to the party and then slept for 2 hrs there, kept thinking I should record all that background noise and play at sleep times!

[lilima]

Shell have you thought of getting a white noise CD?

[Olive]

ive been so slack posting sorry.

[shellbell3]

Meg- A friend of mine today mentioned something about them, hadn't really heard of them, must look into it, I think it would work so well for her. Might drive me nuts at night tho!

[lilima]

one of my belly buddies from Bellybelly i sending one to me that she is burning. maybe once iti s sent, I will try and burn off the burnt copy for you,
Will let you know

Hi AJP.