Sorry, I've been slack and not posted here for a while. I'm kind of just plodding thru each day, and popping into the MCN thread now and then because I don't have to think too hard about it, and I don't have to focus on sleep/no sleep/what the hell do we do next type of thing...
We managed to get an appointment at the childrens hospital sleep disorder clinic, and although they were understanding and told me I was doing everything right, they couldn't help with any resettling strategies or shed some light on why DS is waking every half hour some nights. "It's normal, sort of." he said. PFFFFFTTT!!! The Dr was all concerned about me and how I seem so flat and down, and it makes me mad having to try to explain over and over that I'm not depressed (YET!) just exceptionally negative, frustrated and exhausted because nobody understands or has any answers, and my child gets tired and frustrated all the time too because he doesn't know how to stay asleep and resettling is simply impossible. We had blood tests done to check DS's iron levels, although both the doc and I know this is probably not going to be relevant. But DS was so good getting the big needle in his arm again (no emla this time or anything!) and was even squeezing his fist to make the blood flow. Freaky! So, anyway, I've been told by the "experts" that I should keep doing what I'm doing, and maybe try and introduce a teddy or comfort object again and create another sleep association that doesn't involve BF or sucking. I had let the blankie slip for a bit because I was sick of being belted with it! *sigh* So back to being bashed with a blankie at bedtime. Nice.
*CAUTION* vent coming up!
Everyone HAS to say, "oh, have you tried sleep school?" or "A friend of mine did such and such with their kid and it worked great." "why don't you do controlled crying??" All this from people who don't even have kids... and if they do have kids they're placid, calm, ordinary children who just don't have the temperament or, dare I say it, intelligence to compare to DS and his boundless energy and enthusiasm for mischief and inquisitiveness. I just don't have the patience or energy to explain that he's just not like those other kids, and even the doctors and specialists at the sleep disorder clinic said controlled crying is NOT going to work for us ever. And it doesn't have to because DS is happy to GO to sleep!
DP is copping this from all his colleagues at work, and he's just so fatigued and over it all. He's so grumpy lately, and I can hardly blame him, but now is the time that we are somehow required to find an untapped spring of energy sufficient to carry on thru the next however many months/years of relentless tantrums and screaming every night. And at the same time, he's applying for work in Paris because Melbourne just isn't working for him anymore... He hates his job, it's cold, our house sucks (as have the last two places before this one) and he wants us to go somewhere where we can be happy and have family around us who are helpful, and that's not going to happen here, no matter how much I like Melbourne. It's a scary thought, moving overseas with a kid... my brain just doesn't work at the moment to even contemplate it!
Jess - I appreciate your advice. I'm not offended by your ideas about trying formula, and it's been suggested by another good friend of mine too. However... I would like to continue BF for as long as I'm able and DS wants it, and when I discussed it with the the doc he didn't seem to think the formula option would be worthwhile. DS is eating plenty of solids, and I'm still going ok with the milk supply, though I don't like to discuss it here since I know how much you and others here would like to still be able to/continue with BF. Anything you can suggest is welcome, since you have a wild child of your own and understand what it's like first hand.
OK, I have to go. BBL to finish this. Sorry to come across so blaaaaaaahh but that's how it is! I'll try and cheer up this afternoon, but I'm going to my friend's 30th (shiat, mine's next week) and there's going to be all the kids from playgroup who SLEEP so well... phooey.
NaNa- I fully understand the not wanting to use formula which is why i chringed at even the though if mentioning it... I wasnt meaning to stop BF just maube to try one feed or something.. (more so the new formula there is for helping bubs sleep) If u ever wanna chat let me know... I dont mind calling STD if u wanna chat for few minutes to destress... HUGS... Its so hard when no one is able to help us and ur bubs isnt it... GRRRRRRR Ur doing a fab job though... also take my hat of to ur DP... Better man then mine... lol.
I'm starting the sue dengate failsafe diet for DS and DD (dont want a 2nd wild child)
WOW about thinking of moving overseas... gosh what would be the postage on fluff to paris??/ PMSL
Abb- Thanks hun... I guess its all i know really... DP was my 1st serious relationship and i had a point to prove and now i'm paying... i blame myself for letting him get away with it and now i'm standing up he's not likeing it...
Well DD is WALKING!!! well not all the time but she is always letting go and taking off... she can go the lenghth of the loungeroom now and she thinks she is ants pants... lol
We have new thread already? We talk too much, which is great! Let’s all keep it up while I try and keep up with you ladies. I have read all posts even ones from 3-4 days ago.
Nana –
How disgusting! I too would have done the same! Matter of fact; if I was you and saw the rubbish I would have turned right around without even taking my child into meet the caregiver. I am surprised that you even went inside the place. Oh my god Nana, your little one bits and hits already? I am so sorry to hear that. He must be frustrated about something. DD makes a noise, to me; it’s like a baby yelling at you, telling you off for something. She raises her voice at me. Whenever she does that I say “Don’t say that to mummy” or “No Yasmeenia no, don’t raise your voice at me”. I am just teaching her. Of course she wouldn’t remember but hey it’s a start. Keep up the good work. You are handling the situation. How is he with other people around or with your Yasir? Since your DS wakes up every 30 mins or so, would it be better to have him sleep with you or is that not an option? Just so at least he might feel comfortable knowing you are close. Of course, you don’t have to, just a suggestion. It must be hard trying to function everyday with little sleep.
Abb –
How are the party’s plans coming along for your DD? You have so many birthdays to be attending and having. Good luck.
Today was awesome. I was playing with DD in the front yard; I was helping her stand and walk. She stood by herself for about 5-10 seconds but was too scared to move. Because she knows she will fall, Lol. DD and I play this little game – where I am pretending to chase her – saying things like “I am coming to get you”, “Come here” laughing as I say that, she rolls around trying to run away from me, Lol. She laughs and rolling away. As from Wednesday she will be returning to childcare full-time, except Tuesday’s. I need to use that time to complete assignments and somehow prepare for my exams, if possible. I love the centre she goes too. I feel very confident and comfortable with the girls there. In the beginning I might have been judgmental because no one else every looked after her. But whenever I enter the place, I love it, knowing she is in great care. There are two girls always in the babies/toddler room. One is a qualified caregiver; she is there five days a week. She does such a great job of looking after the little one. She is fantastic. She is very caring and probably 26-28 years old. I could be wrong though am not exactly sure. So I am looking forward to taking her there. The centre is always clean and smells good. They do a lot of activities with the children. DH and I were thinking about moving to another suburb, although this place is great, it doesn’t have a bathtub. It’s somewhat of a problem for me because Yasmeenia is getting bigger. But decided to wait until the end of the year because I don’t want to have to put DD in another centre.
Am I the only one co-sleeping with DD? Is anyone else doing the same? I know bad habit. But its convenient for me at the moment but after my exams I am going to train her to sleep in her cot.
LMK -
Where are you? How is abbie doing?
Bec -
How is Cameron doing? You have posted since I shaved DD's hair Lol
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Jess - I tried to post earlier but cyberspace gobbled it... don't ever shy away from giving advice to me. I know that you're BTDT with lots of things, and it's my own fault that I'm sooooo stubborn and difficult and rarely accept help, advice or assistance for anything if I don't think it's immediately practical or plausible. You'd know better than me that it's so hard to admit you're not invincible or entirely capable, yet not a complete failure either, and since so few people see that there's a middle ground there, you just carry on and do everything yourself. Something to prove to yourself, maybe. Right?? But then, all the times you deny or refuse help when it's offered, when you actually do ask for it there's never anyone able to do anything. What a pickle...
Girl - we were cosleeping with DS. The last few weeks we've got him back in the cot in his own room for the first few hours of his night sleep, for the first time ever. But DP and I are taking it in turns to camp out in the room with him and when he wakes screaming at 3am and cannot be resettled, he always ends up sleeping with us. When he eventually goes back to sleep, that is! I preferred having him in the single bed in our room, and I'm trying to decide whether to go back to that soon. He's had too much change and disruption in his home, and bedtime, it's no wonder he's confused.
Congratulations to the little ladies walking now! Wow!
Girl- i dont co sleep- But only for 1 reason... i'm a heavy person... and my DP is a heavy sleeper... that combo with a queen bed and his snoring we wouldnt get much sleep anyways...lol... i would have loved to have co -slept...
NaNa- U sound like me... lol... u seem to be having the same struggles i went though... (still am going through) It must be dificult for you also cos like me you dont have family for support... i have a few friends but until u have a dificult child u have no idea... i think its like most things... My kids suffered terrible colic and reflux... i have friends whos bubs are a little windy and chucky and there crying... OMG reflux... LOL... If they only knoew how bad things could be... Is Aadi sleeping ok during the day ?? is it just nights still??? i'd like to try and offer help but by the sounds of it (and if ur like me) u would have tried everything u know of already...
Well we had a fairly bad night... Tiahna is sick with a cold and was up every hour last night poor thing... got the vapouriser on and hoping we can clear it up fairly quickly
nana: no advice here just wanted to send u a big hug.
jayda has been a poo over the weekend. hardly got any sleep. Dh said to me sat night i feel bad cause ur always gettin up to her i know i need to step up a bit with it all. then int he next sentence says i know i will be hung over in the morning so u can get up to her and when i EVENTUALLY wake up u can go back to sleep. i wanted to hit him. but i took advantage of goign back to sleep cause i dont usually get the chance lol.
i have to wait a few days for the zoloft to get out of my system b4 i can start the Duromine i am so impatient i nearly took some this morning lol.
omg one of the kids is trying to teach one of the littler ones to say helicopter but........ she is saying "say helli-****-ta" lol
Wow Jess she is so clever walking already!!!!! Abbie is not far off walking she stands next to the lounge looks at me lets go and stands there for a good 15 to 20 seconds witha big grin on her fave, she is sooooo cheeky. You are a great mum and you are doing a wonderful job raising your children and never forget that. Some children just need more help then others, Lachlan is a trying child and needs alot of love and support to have a good day. He needs to be distracted from doing the wrong thing in order for us to have a good day. Otherwise we could just fight all day long. Until i realised this he was driving me bonkers. I am sure you have tried everything you possibly can try with jordan and i hope that the new book that you are reading helps bring some peace to your house. If you ever need to chat please let me know. Goodluck and i hope that he is good for you today:-)
Sassy men are like that sometimes grrrrrr. good luck with the duromine, Its is AMAZING stuff, i know people say that its suppose to make you feel like you are not very hungry but you wont believe it till you take it. I have to literally make myself eat 3 meals a day, I NEVER feel hungry. I am hoping that it makes my stomach shrink so that i keep eating the amount i am eating now when i stop. I have lost 3kg in 6 days. Good luck and i hope it works for you, but just remember to take it really early in the morning to ensure you can sleep at night i don't take it after 7am. I would be more incline to take it for 2 months every second day as that gives you a longer time on them:-)
Nana everyone always told me i should go to sleep school with cody cause he was a horrible sleeper, i was young and pig headed lol and never took him but you know what he turned out fine and eventually sorted himself out. Honestly you are doing a great job and don't worry about what everyone else says. Hugs to you.
Abb I would love a night to myself!!! I hope you enjoyed it:-)
Miss sorr to hear about your troubled times i hope it picks back up for you. We do want to listen to your issues if you need to talk about it so feel free. Let me know how you go. If you need a chat i am here.Good luck hugs to you. Oh we posted nealy at the same time, i got my vaporiser from the chemist they are not cheap but i love mine i just need three of them:-)
Girl yeah on standing up and letting go abbie has just started that too.
bec how are things with cam?
Well abbie has been going well. I i have already said she is standing by herself and letting go and she thinks that she is soooo clever. Yesterday i had a tupperware party and dh had the kids, abbie went into lachlans room and obviously chewed on a cardboard book and was choaking on a bit of paper, so dh got it out of her mouth and gave her a little drink but she would not drink. So he gave the boys a biscuit and abbie wanted one so he gave her one as well, she threw the entire biscuit up. He called me and i was soooo scared all i could think of is that its stuck in her throat. He called 13health and they said that its probably gone down and to keep an eye on her and if there is any sudden change then call 000. OMG i was so scared when he was telling me. I was 40 minutes from home so i could not just quickly go home and make sure she was ok. It made me feel so bad for doing tupperware and made me think that if i was there she would not of been in lachlans room (cause i don't let her in there cause lachlan is too rough, hehe just because i am over protective of my little girl and don't want her to turn out rough like the boys;-))
She is eating as much as ever and i can't believe that OUR babies are nearly 1.
I am not meaning to brag, i am only saying this cause this is one of the very very few times this has ever happened, Lachlan and Abbie are both asleep right now shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
I can't believe it . Lachlan got up so early this morning like 5am so he was already exhausted and abbie is getting more teeth ( i think) Woooo Hooooo.
So Abbie still has only FOUR teeth, it looks like there is about 4 or 5 more coming down but they have lookedlike that for months. Who knows
Well i hope that everyone is well and i will talk to you all soon.
Nikki
Sorry, once again been a little slack...well actually kinda been a little busy.
Girl - No we don't and have never co-slept. I could never quite figure out how everyone did it....Cameron is such a mover - I was always to scared he would roll/crawl off the bed! We did try a couple of times and that's exactly where he headed . And also my DH is a truck driver (semi's), so sleep is very important for safety for himself and everyone else on the road.
Jess - Sorry to hear Tiahna's now sick...Cam had a cold a couple of weeks ago - the snot seems to finally cleared over the weekend! Hope she feels better soon.
Abb - How was your night alone...what girly movie did you end up watching? DH went out Friday night, so once again I put in Just Like Heaven, followed by Serendipity (I love these movies) .
Sassy - GRR to your partner going back on his deal...but glad you ended up taking advantage of it later. Maybe next weekend you could get a little drunk (before your dieting kicks in) and tell him you won't be able to attend to Jayda cause you'll be a little hungover this time
NaNa - No advise here either, but I'll offer a - actually make that a cause I know the other ladies would like to get in on it too for you. How many more weeks til you travel - are you having the chance yet to get organised for it?
Mis - I seen your picture on FB of the trial birthday cake...so jealous. Here I was just going to do a boring old blue iced sponge cake. But I'm going over to a mothers group lady's house tomorrow so we can gather some other ideas and trial it together (then taste test after ) - so you might have given me some inspiration to be a little more creative. Sorry to hear your having BF troubles now too.
AFM - well I think I'm giving up expressing now too....since Cam has refused boob, 4 weeks ago - I've been expressing what I can - then giving it as his night bottle (stored the extra - which we are starting to now use). I started out for the 1st week pumping 3-4 times a day, then found that hard when we had plans to go out, so trailled it down to morning and night, then over the last week I was only pumping 60mls morning and again at night - so started to wonder what was the point of doing 2 a day, so just did what I could once a day, and as of yesterday I decided I've had enough....I did a quick pump last night, cause I was a little unsure still, and only got 100mls - after a day and a half without- so today I think I'm 100% sure this is it! I do feel a little down about it at the same time as I'm feeling proud.
Besides that....Cam is still enjoying childcare - I think he is loving playing with the other kids. He did finger painting on Thursday, and really loved it apparently (last time we tried it at home, about 6weeks ago - he cried the entire time). Still no new teeth yet, but the have to be popping up soon - still dribbling big time (even the child carers have been putting a bib on him all day cause of the dribble) and a few night wake ups (this morning was 3am, then up at 5am - argh!!!).
He is really keen on trying to walk. He moves around holding onto the furniture so quickly and loves his walker - every few minutes he's up and going - then sooks until we come and turn him around. He also has started to let go of things when standing...but soon realises he's done it and grabs back quickly - though there has been a couple of topples where he didn't grab back.
Well that's all from me for now...DH has just got up - so off to spend some time with him and Cam (when he wakes up) before DH goes to work.
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Ur doing a fab job though... also take my hat of to ur DP... Better man then mine... lol. 
gosh what would be the postage on fluff to paris??/ PMSL
Yeah for Tiahna, you go girl !!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am not meaning to brag, i am only saying this cause this is one of the very very few times this has ever happened, Lachlan and Abbie are both asleep right now shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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- actually make that a 
cause I know the other ladies would like to get in on it too for you. How many more weeks til you travel - are you having the chance yet to get organised for it?
) - so you might have given me some inspiration to be a little more creative. Sorry to hear your having BF troubles now too.
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