Babies Born September 2007 #29

[Artechim]

*Selfish post warning*

So glad I didn't drive two hours to the plunket day clinic. I talked to them on the phone and all they do is show a video of controlled crying. Leave the baby to cry for 20 minutes, go in and cuddle without picking them up and then leave again. The other option is to pat for 5 minutes, leave for 5 min, pat for 4 min, leave for 4 min etc, never mind if the bub is screaming its head off. She told me that it was my fault (I know that it is) and that we were letting him rule the roost and he would only be crying because he wasn't getting his own way. She also told me to cut down on breastfeeds because at 8 months solids are more important.

So I guess I am just stuck waking up every hour. I guess he will grow out of it some time before he goes to school?

[Ozstar]

Morning everyone,

Arte to you, I think that is terrible advice (no offence to anyone who uses controlled crying). You have not done anything wrong, you should get the plunket nurse to read the science of parenting. Everything I have read or heard says that milk is the most important thing in their diet until they are 12 months old and that food is about fun and exploration at this age. I am sorry I have no advice on how to get Will to sleep I really hope he grows out of it. Please don't doubt yourself as a mummy, you are a fantastic mum and Will is thriving and meeting all his milestones.

Noni can you change Asha on the floor? Or is she like Logan and rolls away lol.

MD that chicken sounds yummo, when are we coming over for dinner???

Gracie I started a thread about the pregnant "man" on here somewhere. I love lazy days on the couch.

I will try and get back on for some more personals later, Logan is demanding that I come and play with him lol. Oh I meant to ask does anyone else's bubs throw tantrums when they are told "no"? Logan has been chucking some great ones, cany wait for terribles twos....NOT! lol.

[Trillian]

Oh Arte, so even NZ isn't immune from crappy, dodgy MHCN Try to put it all out of your head what she is saying and pretend it never happened - you are doing the best thing for Will already.

Marydean, I went to the weleda website and searched their list of stockists and went with the only one who had an online shop - some hippy place in Byron Bay LMAO.

Gosh I can't remember what else was said now and I only just read it all.

Still no tooth, but we only had three wakeups *does the happy dance* so am feeling pretty rested today. He even went to bed at 7.30 last night - a whole hr earlier than normal - not sure if that had something to do with it? Anyway, we still have nasty teething poos and I think he has even lost a little bit of weight from them as they are really big and nasty ones.

And yes, I did get all the washing done too. Today's job is to fold, iron and put it all away.

[MamaPan]

hi everyone
sorry I have been MIA!!!Life has been, as always, extremely hectic... the good news is that N is a lot better, he is pretty much back to normal - I am just being careful what i feed him still but he is back to his happy self. I caught the damn gastro from him so had a few days feeling pretty awful myself... and then yest I had to go to melb for work.. so I have hardly had time to breathe!! Anyway wanted to pop on and let you all know he is ok and so am I. Thanks so muh for all your support last week - I know I was whingeing and worried and you all made me feel a lot better!
I have skimmed the thread - sorry I forget a lot of the personals. But I did want to say I use the weleda teething powder and it is good. One tip - you can mix it and they can drink it but you can also make it into a paste and massage into the gums which i find works even better. that reminds me looks like N is getting tooth no 5, so after we got over the gastro (well after he did) we had 2 nights of screaming from the gum pain!!!

[Leemar]

Morning Girls,

Pregpan- I am glad N is getting better and I hope you recover soon. Wow Tooth No. 5 coming.
Sherie- Glad you got all your washing done. Bummer on the tooth not though yet.
Katie- Yep Olivia did crack tanties but I just ignore her and now she has stopped. AS for the terrible two's for me it's when they are neally 3. OMG my boys are crazy some days.
ART- Dont worry too much what that women said your a wonderful mummy and are doing the right thing. You are right they will grow out of it.

[Ginger]

good morning

arte- i agree with everyone else- that is terrible advice and it is in no way at your fault. you are doing an amazing job and meeting all of will's needs and you will be rewarded for it by a happy, independant and secure child. it is hard now, but like clare said the other day 'this too, shall pass'. i've stopped going to my mchn cos she kept telling me that everything was my fault and that i'm some weird hippy living up in the trees with my baby in my bed. when i need advice i come on here now where i know i'll be supported.

leanne- i don't know how you do it with the twins and olivia. i have a hard enough time looking after lewis and the dog!

sherie- lewis did a 'teething poo' this morning and i thought of you! lmao. it was gross. he hasn't done of those for weeks. do you think it means one's on the way?

pregpan- glad to hear noah is doing so much better. you're such a jetsetter atm. did you find melbourne absolutely freezing? it is sooo cold here atm.

katie- yes we have tantrums here- usually over the car keys. lewis loves to grab them off me when we go somewhere but then refuses to give them back when i need them to drive!

[MamaPan]

here i am again... you can tell i am not v motivated at work atm hey!! Gracie - yep it was COLD in melb yest, though i must say it is colder here... it was -3 when i was on my way to the airport...
also wanted to say the weleda nappy rash cream is also lovely.
are all your bubs crawling? N isnt!!!

[AnyDream]

Pregpan, did you buy the Weleda powder locally? Where do I find it? So glad N is much better, what a relief, crummy that you caught the gastro too though.

Arte - oh you poor thing, keep Will well away from that MACH nurse, wont you?! That sounds like a really extreme way of doing Controlled crying. The way they teach it here is you settle first 2-10 mins (in their bed) then you go out for 2 mins, then come back and settle, then out for 4 mins, etc, gradually inching up to 10 mins (or less if that's all you can handle). They say to persist for 45 mins then abandon if it's not working. Cally was taught an even milder way of controlled comforting, which meant that K was never left to get distressed. If W is feeding frequently over night, you could try offering him some extra feeds in the day time, and then at night time send DH in to settle him with a drink (rice milk is sweet like BM). Not necessarily all night (you can still give a late feed around 10-11 and then feed again 5-6 am) but at least then you'd be getting a decent stretch of 5-6 hours. We did this with DD1 when she was about 11 mths old because she went from being settled most of the night to getting up four or more times, and it worked in about 10 days. If she got distressed at any time or didn't settle after about half an hour of cuddling/rocking, DH would bring her in for a 'real feed'. It sounds like you are doing a wonderful job of caring for W, I'm just worried about how well you are coping and whether you need any more strategies to look after yourself. xxx Have you read "The no cry sleep solution" by Elizabeth Pantley? She has some suggestions which you can follow gently and over an extended time which might help.

I don't know what to think about teething any more. It's been "on" for months here. She started with the gallons of spit again yesterday afternoon, but I'm having trouble working out which teeth might be coming thru. Does anyone else's bub have lumps where the canines will come thru? Does that mean that's the next teeth she'll get? I'm confused, DD1 obeyed all the 'rules' and cut teeth in the correct order with a minimum of fuss (3-4 days of grizzling for each tooth). She also slept when she was supposed LOL but since then has been a contrary Mary in every way.

Katie, you tell me when you're coming and I'll break out the drumsticks LOL. Yep Bettybubs cracks it big time when she's eating anything and thinks you've taken it away (like if she drops her rusk, or loses her spoon, she thinks it's gone and screams and thrashes) LOL. The FDC lady said yesterday "Well she sure has a set of lungs on her" PMSL! DD1 could scream like that and I am not looking forwards to the triple-header tantrums we used to get.

Gracie, yep that's right you're a foxtel watching net surfing hippy LMAO. I'm surprised those MACH nurses don't get slapped by mothers on a regular basis.

Sherie, it must've been a good night for it, E only got up TWICE! I actually got up in the middle of the night and went looking for her I was so unaccustomed to sleeping!