tilda, what a shame matilda is so unsettled. i have this book called baby on board and the author reckons bubs are often unsettled if they are overstimulated. so, that could be them being too overhandled by visitors or being exposed to too much excitement duringthe day. he suggests keeping things simple and keeping them in a quiet, dark space inthe afternoons if the are getting wound up so all the adreneline leaves their body. im not really explaining it well but you get the gist. he also says newborns arestill learning and it will get better! good luck, hun. x
to thegirls with unsettled bubs during theday- jack is the same. im not too worried as hes in a good pattern at night, he wakes at 2am and 5am after going down at 9.30pm. not sure how else toget him to day sleep as im only bfing and have enough milk to feed triplets! any tips from anyone else?
andie- very jealous of jacobs long sleep!
atm-sorry for the typos. im on this dumb pen keyboard and i cant use it!
not sure what you all do at night but ive got a new routine that works for us. we put him in our bed after his bath, dh reads to him, i feed him, wrap him then pat his bum til he shuts his eyes, usually round 9.30. then pop him in the bassinet. hear him stirring at 2am, take him to my bed for a bf lying down, then pop him back. same at 5am. i dont change or burp him and that way he doesnt really wake! dh then chnges him at 6. two of my friends recommended it and now we all get a much better sleep. i use natures friend so dont need to burp...
Hi Tilda - I have your problem during the day!!!!!! Let me know what the sleep consultant says, would be very interested. I have mothers group this week so am going to ask the health nurse about things too. We had a good night, the usual 3 hourly routine which is good after the last couple of unsettled days! I've just read in one of my books that they can go through a growth spurt at about 5 weeks and need more food so I am wondering if that's what Amelia is going through. I cant put her down without crying as we speak! She goes to sleep in my arms or on my lap and as soon as I put her down she wakes up. She's also definitely more hungry and I'm having to top her BF feeds up with a little bit of formula as she's still hungry. Oh well, will just have to ride with it for now I guess. At least she's settled during the night so far, that's something!
Hi Carmey - 9.30 pm to 2.00 am wow that's awesome lucky you! We usually put Amelia down around 10.30 pm but she's awake again at 1.30 am for her next feed and then around 4.00 am......although lately it's been slightly different times due to her day time shenanigans! Generally she's feeding every 3 hours, sometimes I get 4 out of her, last night she fed at 1.30 am but I was up for nearly an hour as she's feeding longer now (grrrr), and then she woke again at 5.00 am, DH fed her a bottle so I could sleep and then she slept again until nearly 9.00 am, bargain! I feed lying down at the morning feed too. I'm jealous about your milk supply, mine is pretty crap lately, it's great first thing in the morning but during the day it's not been as good so am having to top up with formula more and more. I only expressed 40mls yesterday! Perhaps I need to drink more, been a bit naughty with the water lately must admit! I too try not to change her nappy so as not to overstimulate and wake her too much but if it's a pooey one I do, she hates staying in a pooey nappy and I can't blame her! LOL. She generally goes back down without a fuss these days (at night anyway!) Even waking up is usually just to her making little noises rather than crying so thats good too now. How they change huh!
I think we've all got pretty much the same issues so at least we know our babies are normal ha ha!
Also TMI question, how do you know if you have hemoroids (sp?).....and can you get them even if you have a c-section? I've just noticed the last few days or so when I go to the toilet (bowel movement) it hurts a little like it's scratching.....sorry sounds gross I know. Wasn't sure if it was just because things are not as soft as when pregnant in the last few weeks or not LOL!
Last edited by Alison1973; January 3rd, 2010 at 11:48 AM.
Alison You can have haemorrhoids even after a c/s, the pressure alone while you're pg can do it. Funny you should say that about it hurting like it's scratching, I've had exactly the same thing the last 2 days!! I have haemorrhoids but I'm not sure that it's them playing up it felt a bit different, but like you my bm's have been a bit more solid/harder than they have been so could just be the difference in consistency, I've been a bit slack on the water too so that could also do it. I did have a little bleed yesterday after the bm just a bit on the paper (TMI) so was assuming either the roids or my tear has opened a bit I had a look but couldn't see anything external so I'll assume it's the roids. You can also get a little fissure (like a tear) which will sting if it's tiny when you have a bm if it gets bigger it can be quite painful. Can you see or feel any lump around your rectum? If so it could be roids...charming convo they can be internal too so you might not be able to see it if it's inside. You might need to see if it continues and then have a closer look to work out what's going on.
While we're on TMI subjects...how's every ones bleeding going? Mine's definitely less but still going after 3 1/2 weeks I can't remember how long until it stops does anyone know?
Harry's still unsettled most of the day and between about 8/9pm until 12/1am is terrible! So you're not alone there with unsettled babies. Does anyone elses house look like a disaster area? I start doing things and don't get them finished, DP is pretty good he's been washing nappies every day but mess and dirt just don't bother him like it does me, I don't even think he sees it most of the time so the house is getting gross! But like Carmey said newborns are still learning and it will get better so I guess I just deal with it for now it won't be forever.
The chiro did wonders for Harry's attachment, and he brings up a lot more wind than before but is still always windy and unsettled, we have another appointment tomorrow so I'll see if he improves again after that one
Tilda I have become very slack with Harry at night I don't even bother trying to put him into his bassinet most nights, I have a wrap and one of his blankets in bed I feed and change him then keep him in bed with us, not in the middle but on my side wrapped and with his own blanket if it's really cool, I don't put him under our bed clothes and that way we get a little sleep. I'm actually thinking of buying one of the cots I've seen that come up next to your bed with one of it's sides off so it's like he's in your bed but he's kind of not, if you get me, but there's no way you could roll on them or they could get under your doona or anything.
I'm off to try and get our thank you cards done so we can post them tomorrow, Harry will probably wake now, I'm sure I wouldn't get do do a BB post and the thank you cards LOL.
Hi Willow - thanks for that info - maybe I do then as I had some bleeding a few days ago but only the once and only a tiny bit. Hmmmm. I can't feel anything externally and I don't fancy having a doctor poking my bum ha ha - had enough of that kind of thing lately. Is there anything you can get over the counter???? My BM's have been harder too lately so maybe it's that?! I have been gulping the water today to see if it helps. Maybe it's the fissure thing then...might google that one LOL!
As for the other bleeding, mine finished about a week ago (around 4 weeks), for the last week I've just had the yellowy/clear type discharge they told me to expect at the end. Mostly when I bf, must be the hormones, weird. They did tell me the bleeding can finish earlier after a c-section but maybe I've been lucky. I still get some very minor little cramps when I bf too, anyone else get that?
Hi Alison You can get stuff over the counter for roids I used to get Rectinol cream and there are a few kinds of medicated wipes that are good too, anusol is one brand, the last ones I used were chemist own brand, can't remember what the name was but they were good. I'm not sure but I think if it's a fissure thingy you can use the same things.
I don't blame you for not wanting the doc poking around up there either!!
Thanks again Willow, will get me some and see how I go. I googled that fissure thingo, sounds like it might be that even....oh well, trust me to get one or the other, I avoided stretch marks, even constipation in pregnancy and as I didn't get my vaginal birth one positive of that was I avoided a perineal tear but noooooo that's not good enough, my bum wants to play silly buggars! ha ha
Off for a swim at my sisters today, first swim since aqua class before Amelia was born! Maybe the salt water will help it LOL.......best not take my board shorts off however! As it is I'll have to wear a shirt, I have this podgy little gut still.....when does that go away! I still have the line down my belly too ha ha.
Alison - I really hope Amelia continues to settle at night OK. At least you can get some sleep that way. Its so hard to put them down when they're wanting cuddles isn't it!! I'd ditto the info Willow gave you about the umm, pain and bleeding down there. I reckon it could be a fissure. Even with a CS it takes awhile for your BMs to go back to normal and in the meantime little tears can happen when its being stretched a bit more than its used to (sorry for the graphic description).
Carmey - Sounds like you have a fabulous routine. I think I might just have to try something like that. I know its recommended to create bedtime rituals. I think I'll sit down with DH this evening before she wakes up and plan a ritual. And the stimulation thing is an issue now too I think. It didn't matter when she was really tiny, but I think she's alert now to be overstimulated by everything going on.
Willow - My bleeding is just drawing to a close after 4 weeks. The midwife pretty much said to me "anything up to 4 weeks". Maybe if you're still bleeding after 5 weeks it would be a good idea to mention it to a midwife or your doctor. But I'm sure everyone is just different. It sounds like Harry is still a bit unsettled too. I've been wondering about those cots too. But I'm not sure she'll like it any more than her bassinet. She really wants to be right up against us, even if its in our bed.
AFM - Well, it was great to hear from you all today - I needed to hear some empathetic voices! I don't know what I'd do without it to be honest. Its so good being able to have that contact with people going through the same things. Well I finally gave up around 6am this morning and took Matilda into bed and let her sl0eep on DH's chest. Unfortunately it didn't get any better during the day. I had to go to bed to sleep at about 4pm and got up at about 5:45 to see Matilda still asleep on DH's chest on the couch. Its lovely that he wants to cuddle her but I'm really worried that she's getting too much of a taste for it and that when he gets a job I just won't be able to keep it up. Anyway, she has now just been successfully put down for the first time in about 24hours. She's grizzling a bit in her sleep but it doesn't seem to be turning into wakeful crying. I think part of the problem is that she hates being wrapped and when we put her on her back all her limbs start flailing around which wakes her up and she gets ****ed off about being put down. Well I think I'll call the sleep consultant tomorrow for an appointment. She's probably going to give me variations of all the advice I've read about, but some advice tailored for our situation might be good.
any tips from anyone else?
Even waking up is usually just to her making little noises rather than crying so thats good too now. How they change huh!
they can be internal too so you might not be able to see it if it's inside. You might need to see if it continues and then have a closer look to work out what's going on.
so the house is getting gross! But like Carmey said newborns are still learning and it will get better so I guess I just deal with it for now it won't be forever.
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