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    Hi girls

    Alison You can have haemorrhoids even after a c/s, the pressure alone while you're pg can do it. Funny you should say that about it hurting like it's scratching, I've had exactly the same thing the last 2 days!! I have haemorrhoids but I'm not sure that it's them playing up it felt a bit different, but like you my bm's have been a bit more solid/harder than they have been so could just be the difference in consistency, I've been a bit slack on the water too so that could also do it. I did have a little bleed yesterday after the bm just a bit on the paper (TMI) so was assuming either the roids or my tear has opened a bit I had a look but couldn't see anything external so I'll assume it's the roids. You can also get a little fissure (like a tear) which will sting if it's tiny when you have a bm if it gets bigger it can be quite painful. Can you see or feel any lump around your rectum? If so it could be roids...charming convo they can be internal too so you might not be able to see it if it's inside. You might need to see if it continues and then have a closer look to work out what's going on.

    While we're on TMI subjects...how's every ones bleeding going? Mine's definitely less but still going after 3 1/2 weeks I can't remember how long until it stops does anyone know?

    Harry's still unsettled most of the day and between about 8/9pm until 12/1am is terrible! So you're not alone there with unsettled babies. Does anyone elses house look like a disaster area? I start doing things and don't get them finished, DP is pretty good he's been washing nappies every day but mess and dirt just don't bother him like it does me, I don't even think he sees it most of the time so the house is getting gross! But like Carmey said newborns are still learning and it will get better so I guess I just deal with it for now it won't be forever.

    The chiro did wonders for Harry's attachment, and he brings up a lot more wind than before but is still always windy and unsettled, we have another appointment tomorrow so I'll see if he improves again after that one

    Tilda I have become very slack with Harry at night I don't even bother trying to put him into his bassinet most nights, I have a wrap and one of his blankets in bed I feed and change him then keep him in bed with us, not in the middle but on my side wrapped and with his own blanket if it's really cool, I don't put him under our bed clothes and that way we get a little sleep. I'm actually thinking of buying one of the cots I've seen that come up next to your bed with one of it's sides off so it's like he's in your bed but he's kind of not, if you get me, but there's no way you could roll on them or they could get under your doona or anything.

    I'm off to try and get our thank you cards done so we can post them tomorrow, Harry will probably wake now, I'm sure I wouldn't get do do a BB post and the thank you cards LOL.

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    Hi Willow - thanks for that info - maybe I do then as I had some bleeding a few days ago but only the once and only a tiny bit. Hmmmm. I can't feel anything externally and I don't fancy having a doctor poking my bum ha ha - had enough of that kind of thing lately. Is there anything you can get over the counter???? My BM's have been harder too lately so maybe it's that?! I have been gulping the water today to see if it helps. Maybe it's the fissure thing then...might google that one LOL!

    As for the other bleeding, mine finished about a week ago (around 4 weeks), for the last week I've just had the yellowy/clear type discharge they told me to expect at the end. Mostly when I bf, must be the hormones, weird. They did tell me the bleeding can finish earlier after a c-section but maybe I've been lucky. I still get some very minor little cramps when I bf too, anyone else get that?

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    Hi Alison You can get stuff over the counter for roids I used to get Rectinol cream and there are a few kinds of medicated wipes that are good too, anusol is one brand, the last ones I used were chemist own brand, can't remember what the name was but they were good. I'm not sure but I think if it's a fissure thingy you can use the same things.
    I don't blame you for not wanting the doc poking around up there either!!

    Hungry Harry's up better go

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    Thanks again Willow, will get me some and see how I go. I googled that fissure thingo, sounds like it might be that even....oh well, trust me to get one or the other, I avoided stretch marks, even constipation in pregnancy and as I didn't get my vaginal birth one positive of that was I avoided a perineal tear but noooooo that's not good enough, my bum wants to play silly buggars! ha ha

    Off for a swim at my sisters today, first swim since aqua class before Amelia was born! Maybe the salt water will help it LOL.......best not take my board shorts off however! As it is I'll have to wear a shirt, I have this podgy little gut still.....when does that go away! I still have the line down my belly too ha ha.

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    Alison - I really hope Amelia continues to settle at night OK. At least you can get some sleep that way. Its so hard to put them down when they're wanting cuddles isn't it!! I'd ditto the info Willow gave you about the umm, pain and bleeding down there. I reckon it could be a fissure. Even with a CS it takes awhile for your BMs to go back to normal and in the meantime little tears can happen when its being stretched a bit more than its used to (sorry for the graphic description).

    Carmey - Sounds like you have a fabulous routine. I think I might just have to try something like that. I know its recommended to create bedtime rituals. I think I'll sit down with DH this evening before she wakes up and plan a ritual. And the stimulation thing is an issue now too I think. It didn't matter when she was really tiny, but I think she's alert now to be overstimulated by everything going on.

    Willow - My bleeding is just drawing to a close after 4 weeks. The midwife pretty much said to me "anything up to 4 weeks". Maybe if you're still bleeding after 5 weeks it would be a good idea to mention it to a midwife or your doctor. But I'm sure everyone is just different. It sounds like Harry is still a bit unsettled too. I've been wondering about those cots too. But I'm not sure she'll like it any more than her bassinet. She really wants to be right up against us, even if its in our bed.

    AFM - Well, it was great to hear from you all today - I needed to hear some empathetic voices! I don't know what I'd do without it to be honest. Its so good being able to have that contact with people going through the same things. Well I finally gave up around 6am this morning and took Matilda into bed and let her sl0eep on DH's chest. Unfortunately it didn't get any better during the day. I had to go to bed to sleep at about 4pm and got up at about 5:45 to see Matilda still asleep on DH's chest on the couch. Its lovely that he wants to cuddle her but I'm really worried that she's getting too much of a taste for it and that when he gets a job I just won't be able to keep it up. Anyway, she has now just been successfully put down for the first time in about 24hours. She's grizzling a bit in her sleep but it doesn't seem to be turning into wakeful crying. I think part of the problem is that she hates being wrapped and when we put her on her back all her limbs start flailing around which wakes her up and she gets ****ed off about being put down. Well I think I'll call the sleep consultant tomorrow for an appointment. She's probably going to give me variations of all the advice I've read about, but some advice tailored for our situation might be good.

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    Alison lol hope the salt water helped Maybe your bum's trying to compensate for you missing the vb lol nice of it NOT!
    As for the belly, well after I had DS1&2 the belly was pretty much gone by now, this time however it's hanging around! I guess that's the difference between a much younger body verses a 36yr old one ...I still have the line too.

    Tilda ok well I'm nearly at 4 weeks it's slowed down a lot and isn't really red any more so I'm hoping it's nearly done, I do have heavy and sometimes long periods so if that's anything to go on the post-partum could be the same.
    I hope you can get Matilda settled soon, Harry's ok at night as long as he's close he doesn't seem to need the constant contact, Matilda sounds like what my DS1 was like he was happy as long as he was being held, he did grow out of it eventually, although he did sleep in my bed quite often until he was about 2. I think Harry's the same with being wrapped he fights to get his arms out but then when he startles in his sleep it wakes him I'm stuck on what to do there too. Harry's also started to be spewy, sometimes when he wakes he's had a chuck and that's woken him then he's hard if not impossible to settle again.

    Carmey I'm jealous of your routine too! I'll have to get onto one as well, might have to check out the infants friend too.

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    Hi gals, a quick one before bed. Matilda is asleep (on DHs chest as usual LOL). We're waving the white flag tonight and just going to take her in with us and see how that goes. Alison, my paunch is well and truly still around. I'm about a size bigger than pre-pregnancy between the paunch and huge boobs . And Willow sounds like your blood flow is pretty normal to me. And I hear you on the startle issue. I'm wondering how one of those baby hammocks would go. They wouldn't be flat on their backs. It would be more cocoon like and their limbs might not go all over the place. Has anyone had any experience or heard anything about the hammocks??

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    Carmey - I forgot to ask what this nature's friend thing is?

    Sleep well everyone.....

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    Hi Tilda - I have a clingy baby during the day at the mo, driving me nuts! But in saying that, she slept for 5 hours last night, I woke up wondering what was wrong and woke her, what an idiot I am ha ha! I hope she does it again tonight and if so, I will not wake her and see what happens. She's on my lap again, as soon as I go to put her in the pram she wakes up and cries, grrrrr. Hoping it's just a temporary thing. Think you're right re the fissure and my bum is going out in sympathy for my vagigi as my nephew calls it ha ha. Might have to go up to the chemist and ask for something for my bum, how embarrassing!

    Hi Willow - yep, figured the tummy was to be blamed for age LOL. It's going down a bit more each day and to be honest I never had a flat one before but want it to be firm at least! I still have 6 kgs to go to get back to my pre pregnancy weight, when does the bf'ing thing kick in. Everyone said bfing drops the weight, waiting, waiting!

    Swim yesterday was bliss, water was 30 degrees in my sisters pool. Bring it on! I even got DH to do a formula feed as Amelia woke up hungry and I decided to be selfish and have some me time in the pool. I have such sore shoulders and neck from holding her all the time I thought stuff it!

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    Hi all,

    Am finally back to try and do a few personals - will attempt a few and see how I go. Jacob shouldn't want a feed for at least another hour or so, so here goes ...

    Rose Red - good to see you in the thread ... sounds like you've had a difficult first few weeks, but glad to hear things are improving with Liam. Hope you've been able to get some rest!

    Tilda - I can only offer a re: Matilda not sleeping. DS1 hated being wrapped, but Jacob is quite content when I wrap him in muslin cloth - albeit with his arms outside the wrap! We did/are using dummies with our boys too - both are "mega-suckers" and settle down almost instantly if they have something to suck. Good luck with things and hope the sleep consultant can help you out. A book I used initally with DS1 was the "Contented Little Baby Book" (by Gina Ford, I think). It's a book that seems to polarise opinions, and admittedly its routines were far too prescriptive and rigid for me to follow, but it had some decent commonsense advice about getting bub to sleep "better" or through the night. If only babies could read though, hey?

    Carmey - DH and I don't worry about a routine at this stage, other than Jacob feeds approx 3-4 hourly (I always try and feed him around 6.30pm and 10-10.30pm-ish so I can get to bed at a reasonable hour) and he gets a bath around 4.30pm daily. Don't be too jealous of Jacob's long sleeps overnight I definitely think his all-nighter from a few days ago was a once-off! OMG re: Jack rolling under your coffee table - what a champ!

    Alison - Gotta love haemorrhoids huh . I developed a beauty in the last couple of weeks of pregnancy, and giving birth vaginally did nothing to help it. Fortunately the cream I got from the chemist (over the counter only stuff) did its job and it didn't cause me much worry. This is the stuff most people don't tell you about where pregnancy is concerned!! It's great that you can BF laying down - it's not something I can do, it feels too awkward for me.

    Willow - my bleeding has almost stopped. I recall in hospital the midwife said most women bleed "approx" six weeks, but she said it varied heaps - from three to eight weeks. Hope your next trip to the chiro helps with Harry's wind ... I feel very blessed that Jacob isn't suffering wind issues, as we had plenty with DS1, and I considered his wind "mild" as it certainly wasn't as bad as colic is supposed to be. DS1 used to get some relief from having his nappy off - he appeared to lose his inhibitions and therefore fart away quite happily, expelling some of his wind. Mind you, you've always got to be on guard for stray pee or unexpected poo explosions!

    Hannah - it's good Amelia sleeps during the night, but I imagine evening can be a difficult time for you if she's really unsettled. If only each baby came with their own instruction booklet, huh? Would make life a damn site easier for the new parents!

    Lani - Jett sounds like a dream if a live band doesn't even wake him As for FF, I'm apparently the missing link between cows and humans, so no need for formula here atm. But if it helps your bub to sleep/settle, then why not top him up with a FF. Like Jett, Jacob is downstairs in the portacot during the day, then in his cot and room at night. The hammock sounds great!

    AFM, I have a question for you all. Do you feel your bub's breathing is rapid? I'm sure DS1 was the same, but I forget ... I know it's also normal for a baby to appear to be breathing rapidly, but sometimes Jacob REALLY seems to be breathing quickly . Anyone else experiencing this?

    Andie

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    Finally got a bit of time online and am finally writing from our apt!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (for those of you who don't know me yet, DH and I have been living at the in laws for a while while contruction was being done on our apt - which, of course, went wildly over schedule!!!)

    Carmey, sounds like your little one is an athlete like you - Eva turns her head and kicks about her legs and rolls from tummy to the side but not a whole flip over yet! Way to go Jack! I'm going to try to find out if I can get the drops...because seriously the gas thing is awful...I am going to post what I found might be my problem though...I'll get to it after persies...Eva is smiling now too - this started about a week ago (serious smiling, not just little random smiles while feeding)...she reacts to voice and tickling but not a lot just when she is in her very alert periods...it's coming - get ready to fall more in love! The weight loss thing is freaking me out...I am getting back to training next week. I work with a trainer and am going to get my running shoes out to start my runs in the snow I have a pouch and can't get my old clothes on. I feel fatter now than when i was pregnant! I have not lost anything except for the weight from the birth. holidays didn't help either! - I thought you did the big signature on prupose - I love it! He is so cute - leave it big!

    Willow - yay for the weight gain! I am glad he is gaining well! I bled until about Three and a half weeks but a week and a half out of the hospital I only needed panty liners and they did not usually get very stained...But I think every one is different...They told me at the hospital that is can go from three to six weeks, so it should be normal...Eva startles in her sleep too but I put her on her side now and she sleeps well. I also use a cocconababy which prevents that to a certaibn degree...

    Andie, looking forward to getting to know you and your little one. Great to hear that he is growing and doing better than DS1...It is ok to compare, especially when the second is easier - I am slo a dummy user - I could not live without it - Eva is def a sucker...I tried to avoid it but once I saw how she settled down with it, I could not bring myself to deprive her - this is also what got her off of my boobs every waking minute at the beginning...the bretahing is normal and regulates later - Eva started being more settled with her breathing recently...but it can be stressful...she still sometimes inhales a mouth of milk and coughs during a feed...but she is getting better at mulittasking!

    Alison, sucks losing the nipple shield...here they sell them in pharmacies (I am so american ),so I hope you find one - I got a pair when I was having pain at the beginning but never got around to using them...I would have brought them over if I was close by - I also find Eva to be less settled when we go visit people...I think it just nreaks the rythm of her day, so she suffers a bit at night trying to settle down for sleep...her being fussy might be a growth spurt - I read that it happens at 2, 3 and 6 weeks...so maybe that is it since she is nearing her 6th week? Be careful with your milk supply - maybe you should try pumping sometime during the day? the more you top up the less she'll eat so the less you'll produce, so you should try to pump to encourage milk if that is what you want - and drink your water naughty

    Rose, my god, so that is why you have been sort of MIA for a bit. I am so sorry to hear you are having such a difficult time! I would guess the nausea is hormone related. I felt a droop in appetite right after giving birth but it came back full blast with breastfeeding (I am stressed for the weight loss now)....But I am glad to hear you both have the medication you need and hope you and your little man are going to be doing great soon! And luckily you found out so soon before it really got bad...I saw your new pics, Liam is such a cutie...

    Tilda, isn't it great when people just let you sleep-My eva is the same and still spends some night in bed with us (when she is fussy and I am tired it is just easier...I think some babies need more holding, but I get you on the never being put down - with all the people visiting, I don't think she has fallen asleep on her own much (she is doing that now though since no one is home!)...I don't believe a newborn can be spoiled, maybe just have habits but those can be easily broken at this point, so I am trying things until I figure out what works best - hopefully, I'll get it right before she is a toddler! Hope the sleep consultant can help...I think it is normal though...I heard plently of friends' stroies where baby would be up to play all night long and sleep like a log all day. It passes...I agree with Carmey though...I find Eva sleeps really badly when I take her out of her comfort zone or do too much with her in the day. I am tyring to get her into a rythm...Try baths in the eve, I found that helped settle Eva for sleep better too. Bath then feeding and cuddle/singing/book then I leave her in bed. She has been able to do more and more nights like this lately..Hope it lasts. I was also changing Eva before after each feeding but now, like Carmey, just leave her until her 7am wakeup for a change (unless it's a big poo)...maybe try getting her to bed by feeding her laying down - the pediatrician told me that the laying down position is ideal because it encourages sleep for both mom and baby since you are releasing sleep hormones and are already in a sleeping position - just make sure DH checks on you in case you both nod off

    And I have to admit, that I have put Eva to sleep on her belly a few times - only when I have her within my scope of vision and she sleeps so well, not a stir - I would never do it at night because I know she would sleep well but her reflexes would be slwer and I would be scared with the tiredness and slow reflexes that she would end up facedown in her cot...but I do put her on her belly sometimes in the afternoons in her playpen, no sheets no blankets and where I can see her.

    Hannah, for gas I made an amazing discovery!!!! A Hot water bag! Tilda this might work for you too - DH fills it up and puts it in her bed while I do her nightime ritual and feed and then she just slides into her warm bed with no fuss...she used to wake as soon as she was in her bed and out of our arms...Maybe you can try that? She might like the body heat...I also lay her on it with her tummy down and knees on the bed and head on a little pillow when she has really bad cramps and gas and rub her back - it has saved our lives...My best friend had one and one night Eva was crying so bad with cramps that I asked her to bring it...she was still whimpering with pain but not screaming and it passed and she fell asleep on the bag (of course put a blanket or something so it is not too hot for her)...I even bought little hot water bags the size of the palm of a hand to put on her belly in bed if she is crampy...it is winter here so I try to keep her warm...You can try that even though it is summer there...maybe just warm not hot?

    Lani, sounds like Jett knows his nights and days you lucky girl! Don't stress about your milk - I did the same and the pediatrician told me that not having enough milk is very very rare - just stay well hydrated and fed Have you tried going out for an afternoon drive or walk? Maybe he just needs some stimulation to tire him? Eva is up in the late afternoon and that's when I give her mat time which generally tires her out and then she dozes off on her belly and I put her to bed...Today she played in her playpen near my desk while I organize and she dozed off after playing and looking out the window for about an hour...you might need to change his location, position or give him some stimulation during the afternoon...It might settle him down. I had the same prob at the beginning with the constant fussiness unless she was on the boob, and I'll write after this to let you girls know what I figured out...I had a nurse tell me to keep her feeding longer by switching sides etc...but that was not the right this to do...I am with you on the avoiding formula...The ped told me that if the baby is growing there is no problem. So don't stress for that! Like Alison said, there is nothibng wrong with topping up if you need a break. It is tiring having a baby attached to you 24/7 - I did it twice too.

    Now for me - so I ahve been sort of busy with lots of friends over for the new year. Man it is nice having a bunch of arms around - they help with dishes, carrying her around while I shower, playing with her, helping us move back in etc...

    I told you guys Eva was being really fussy for a while...she was crying for hours on end froml midnight to 3 most nights and I could not take it anymore - she had constipation, pain and green smelly poo! I did not know what happened. DH and I were besides ourselves and no one could give us a good response...The pediatrician said it was colic but later in the night...I was no tbuying it. One night while she was crying, DH googled green smelly poo...and we found the problem! We read online that if the baby does not get enough hindmilk then they only get the foremilk which is higher in sugar and not fatty enough to satuisfy them and eventually give baby gas and green smelly frothy poo...I realized that the stupid lactatioon consultant gave me very bad advice by telling me to switch sides every time Eva started slwoing down too much - She was only getting foremilk from both boobs and started suffering for it. I started keeping her on one side and if she dozed off burping her or putting her down but then putting her back to the same boob and after 2 weeks of absolute HELL, her poo is getting yellow again and does not smell and she is sleeping again! The past few night she has slept from 11/12 and not woken up until arounf 6 or 7! I am so happy. Especially to see her more settled and happy. I can kill thatstupid lady and her bad advice! She was screaming and whimpering in pain during feeds and not pooing often...It was just awful. I hope it is going to pass and stay that way, but for now I have had three or four days of regular baby behavior and poo!

    Eva is a darling, filling out her clothes now and starting to react and smile and play etc...She still sleeps most of the morning then needs some fun time in the afternoon and her evening routine and is pretty good settling down to bed now...she needs about an hour of feeding and cuddling to get to sleep.

    I am going to start training to lose my weight starting next week since before that I did not feel ready to leave her at home, so I hope it stays this way. I still have a pooch - I feel so ugly. Some days I don't get a shower in and it is freezing and snowy here, so going out is a lot more complicated than it is for you summer girls - But when she does come out with me she sleeps the whole time, loves the car and is easy. I can't wait until it gets warmer to do that more often!

    Otherwise, I took a long time with persies and she is stirring to wake now (fell asleep all by herself in her playpen!) so I'll go get some emails responded to before she gets up for food and try to be back on soon to update everyone!!!!

    Parents are coming on the 13 and my brother on the 15th but by the end of january I shoul dhave a lot more downtime and more time to be online!!!

    xoxoxoxox

    miss you all you foxy mummies!