Which 2-month vaccinations did you get?

[Pretty Butterfly]

Actually they are far from 100% effective.

Do you know how the little bubba got whooping cough??

It sooo annoys me that sick people hang around babies!! Even if you dont know that you have it, the first symptoms are cold and flu like, so you do know that are sick in some way, and you have to be in constant contact for hours to catch it.

My girlfriend just travelled here to see me and the kids, and she was sick. I was so damn cranky. She could of come later! I wouldn't let her and her 4 kids come here, we met them in the park and she had to go get accomodation.

But what sort of parent would I be to let a sick family into my house?? My family, my choice!!!


eta.. I disticntly remember wearing a face mask for every breastfeed for about a week when my first born was little and I had a cold!!! My Ilws just came back from Japan, and everyone with a sniffle wears a face mask in public!!

[Heaven]

Do you know how the little bubba got whooping cough??

Nope??

OMG how rude of ur friend!!

[Lulu]

The baby would have been exposed by anyone she came in contact with. Hence my decision to limit 'public' contact for at least 12 months, like someone said, shopping centres and babies in strollers just don't mix.

[Shanti]

SJ,
How I see it, is there are risks involved in getting your DD immunised and risks involved in not getting your DD immunised.... it's a hard decision weighing up those risks involved either side.

[Lulu]

SJ, sit down with DH and you can both go over it all. Its never an easy decision to make - however you don't have to go purely one way or the other.

You can choose some. You can choose none, you can choose some AND delay them or choose ALL and delay them. Schmickers has posted his own schedule of vaccs around here somewhere, it's an excellent read. Put DH on the pc for a read too.

Either way, you should limit contact when your baby is young

[Arcadia]

It is a hard decision, but I just wanted to say something on delaying vaccs...

When bub is a newborn they have three types of antibodies - those they have from the placenta, those from your breastmilk and then their own. When a bub is about 8mths, the antibodies from the placenta begin to decline and bubs is left with their own antibodies and any received from breastmilk. This is the time many babies become sick, so the vaccination program has been designed to help boost the babies immune system before this 8 month period (this is how my GP explained it to me anyway).

I personally cannot see the benefit in delaying unless you're undecided and need more time, or you are prepared to really limit bub's contact with sick people/other children (which I know many people do).

As for there being more risk than benefit with vaccinations, I think that is entirely untrue. Vaccines have been proven to reduce the RISK of many deadly childhood diseases (although they are not 100% effective...but is anything?). They are effective enough though to warrant government subsidies, WHO recommendation and vaccine programs in almost all developed countries. In fact, if more children in undeveloped nations had access to the kinds of vaccines we do, they wouldn't be such a high morbidity/illness rate from diseases such as polio.

No vaccine is without risk...you are exposing your child to chemicals and a latent form of the disease...but the decision is whether you would rather risk the full blown disease or the possible side effect from a vaccine? Unfortunately there is little unbiased information our there (or so I found when researching), so the decision is a tough one!

GL

[Lulu]

As for there being more risk than benefit with vaccinations, I think that is entirely untrue. Vaccines have been proven to reduce the RISK of many deadly childhood diseases (although they are not 100% effective...but is anything?). They are effective enough though to warrant government subsidies, WHO recommendation and vaccine programs in almost all developed countries. In fact, if more children in undeveloped nations had access to the kinds of vaccines we do, they wouldn't be such a high morbidity/illness rate from diseases such as polio.

One of the problems here though (and a little bit of a tangent here), is that kids in underdeveloped countries are at higher risk to the side effects because their immune systems are already so low. A mass vacc in the Philippines blew he death rate for the same diseases through the roof.

The man who discovered the Polio vaccine readily admitted the cause of the cause in 100% (I think) of the cases sometime in the 60's was his own vaccine....

[LaDeeDa]

I'm taking Blue down tomorrow night to get all the vacc's ...

I feel sick about it but I just couldn't live with myself if he became ill because I didn' t get him vaccinated

[Arcadia]

I was the same...I still feel sick about the 4 mth ones coming up...

Good luck hun!

[rubibaby]

my boys had everything that was on the immunisation schedule...i did a lot of research and found it incredibly difficult to make the decision. in the end my dh and i decided it was better to immunise them against these diseases than risk either one of them catching something...i am relieved we made that decision, especially now as there has been a resurgance of whooping cough.

[Lulu]

I dislike the term immunisation....it implies there is immunity given and there certainly is NO guarantee of any defense at all

How are you going with all this SJ?

[Heaven]

I still have no idea!! lol. I just never want to have to decide! lol, that would be nice.
I saw that Chanel 7 are doing the other side of the vaccination debate this Sunday night so that will be interesting to watch.

I would love to not get any vaccinations for her the thing holding me back is will I be able to still do all the things I want with her and take her places without constantly being paranoid she'll catch something? Probably not. And if she did happen to get one of the more serious diseases I would feel awful.

She will not be getting all the vaccinations anyway, that much I've decided. Hep B I don't think she is at risk for at all, same with polio. The whooping cough one though...that's the hardest to decide.

How do I pick and choose though, I think I heard they all come in 2 needles!!

[Celsie]

SJ - I know exactly where your head is at right now. You want to keep your baby safe from disease, if you don't vaccinate, she could get sick, but what if she has an adverse reaction to the vaccine? You wouldn't forgive yourself either way. And like me, DH has/had a differing opinion in regards to vaccination.

I have dvd from V.I.S.A. (Vaccine Investigation South Australia) called Investigate Before You Vaccinate. It has a lot of information about the possdible dangers associated with vaccinating. I'd be happy to post it to you. PM me if you're interested.

In the end, we've decided that DD will have some, but not all. She didn't have Vitamin K or Hep B at birth. She will not have Hep B. We've spoken to our GP about which he feels are absolutely necessary and surprisingly, it was only one or two. DS had all his vaccinations up until 6 months when I discovered the possible dangers involved with vaccinating, so has had none since. He didn't have MMR (neither will DD) and certainly not chicken pox.

Our doctor said, if we were to decide we wanted not to vaccinate at all, he's suggest that we do at least get the tetnus vaccine, as you cannot get natural immunity to tetnus and once you've got it, it's too late.

At the end of the day, it doesn't matter what anyone else says, it has to be your decision and one that you can live with.

Good luck!

[leasha]

my 10wk old is getting all her vaccinations today.

as someone who experienced whopping cough at 19yrs of age, there is now way a little baby could survive that. i couldn't breathe when i had a coughing fit..so a little baby has no chance. i'm certainly not going to risk it. Whopping cough is so easy to get..you never know who is a carrier of the virus.

[Heaven]

I thought they wouldn't do vaccinations before 2 months

[DANNIIM]

Bumping up the thread!

I had the measles when i was 15...not long after being immunised i think and i was awefully sick, had 3 weeks off school if i remember correctly. Immunisation is not going to protect you from a particular disease.

I had the birth and 2 month ones done for DS2 but i just can't come to take him back down there to do anymore...still don't know what to do fully but am thinking about vaxing homeopathically. It is so hard to make these dicisions!