LOL Dusty, that may have been the time. It's a tricky one and I don't know what the solution is to addressing it so that those of us who want to talk are about to without worry of having someone think we're total loons for talking about it so much. I'm all for talking these things over because you just never know who might benefit from having the conversation with you kwim? But this reminds me of the episode of The Librarians when Christine is having her baby and she says to Francis "Why doesn't anyone tell you about this?" when she's mid contraction and Francis says "No one tells you anything Christine, that's why it keeps happening"