What do you think is the biggest barrier to breastfeeding In Australia?

[Smoke Jaguar]

Are you suggesting that breastmilk and breastfeeding are just not modern enough? That we should have moved on from these mere mammalian practices? That surely scientists are smart enough to improve on a highly sophisticated substance whose composition they still barely understand?
If women are making their own choices and using their own brains, and that stops someone from continuing (or even starting) a breastfeeding experience, then I would say that those brains aren't getting enough exercise. ABM is not the ideal substitute for BM, but it IS a substitute, lacking wet-nurses in our society. It's not cheaper, it's not more convenient. So, if you don't have to (for women who HAVE to preclude breastfeeding from their feeding practices), why else would you? Lack of education of people around you, the professionals you seek out and advise you towards formula for substandard reasons, of yourself.
That is not to say these women are stupid. I am not educated in molecular biology, it doesn't make me stupid, it just makes me uneducated about it.

[Mikenzees mum]

Are you suggesting that breastmilk and breastfeeding are just not modern enough? That we should have moved on from these mere mammalian practices? That surely scientists are smart enough to improve on a highly sophisticated substance whose composition they still barely understand?
If women are making their own choices and using their own brains, and that stops someone from continuing (or even starting) a breastfeeding experience, then I would say that those brains aren't getting enough exercise. ABM is not the ideal substitute for BM, but it IS a substitute, lacking wet-nurses in our society. It's not cheaper, it's not more convenient. So, if you don't have to (for women who HAVE to preclude breastfeeding from their feeding practices), why else would you? Lack of education of people around you, the professionals you seek out and advise you towards formula for substandard reasons, of yourself.
That is not to say these women are stupid. I am not educated in molecular biology, it doesn't make me stupid, it just makes me uneducated about it.

im asuming this was in responce to what i wrote if so then no im not saying all of that i ment exactly what i said and that is some people symply choose it because it what they want

[Pandora]

im asuming this was in responce to what i wrote if so then no im not saying all of that i ment exactly what i said and that is some people symply choose it because it what they want

Hi

I wasn't sure what question your were responding to when you put your original comment, as the question was

What do you think is the biggest barrier to breastfeeding in Australia?

and "some people symply choose it because it what they want" doesn't make sense in that context.

Do you mean some people choose formula feeding just because they want to - because yes thats true.

[Smoke Jaguar]

Mikenzees mum - the question being asked in this thread is WHY are they choosing it, though. We need to know so that we can find ways to encourage women to 'choose' breastfeeding instead, where physically possible (psychological reasons like previous sexual abuse I consider physiological because of the physiological response a chronic psychological reason will cause).
This thread is aiming to be more in depth and to really ask the 'why', and what can be done to avert the abandonment of BFing. As we have seen from a lot of the posts here, most women haven't just 'chosen' to give up, they have been failed somewhere along the line, so it is not a reflection of them not using their own brains. There really does seem to be a lack of education, lack of professional support, lack of community support, too much deception about ABM being 'just as good as breastmilk', etc.
Kelly's submission goes into these reasons really well - it is a good read, and will take you beyond a one-liner about women just needing to use their brains

[Mikenzees mum]

Mikenzees mum - the question being asked in this thread is WHY are they choosing it, though. We need to know so that we can find ways to encourage women to 'choose' breastfeeding instead, where physically possible (psychological reasons like previous sexual abuse I consider physiological because of the physiological response a chronic psychological reason will cause).
This thread is aiming to be more in depth and to really ask the 'why', and what can be done to avert the abandonment of BFing. As we have seen from a lot of the posts here, most women haven't just 'chosen' to give up, they have been failed somewhere along the line, so it is not a reflection of them not using their own brains. There really does seem to be a lack of education, lack of professional support, lack of community support, too much deception about ABM being 'just as good as breastmilk', etc.
Kelly's submission goes into these reasons really well - it is a good read, and will take you beyond a one-liner about women just needing to use their brains

i realise that im not an idiot i am i was symply saying as i have said before "some people" symply have no reason just made a choice becuase they wanted to I am in no way dismissing what she has wrote or anything like that im just saying that sometimes there isnt a big thing as towhy some wonen choose what the choose

[Pandora]

We need to know so that we can find ways to encourage women to 'choose' breastfeeding instead, where physically possible (psychological reasons like previous sexual abuse I consider physiological because of the physiological response a chronic psychological reason will cause).
This thread is aiming to be more in depth and to really ask the 'why', and what can be done to avert the abandonment of BFing. As we have seen from a lot of the posts here, most women haven't just 'chosen' to give up, they have been failed somewhere along the line, so it is not a reflection of them not using their own brains.

I think thats dead right. In fact I think IK, Mikenzees mum and Kerry are all right, but your just not talking about the same things.

Yes, some women choose to formula feed, and have access to all the information etc. Thats fantastic, it really is, that they had the opportunity to make that choice for themselves.

Its more the women who forumula feed becuase they didin't think they could breastfeed, were told they couldn't, we told formula was better than breastmilk etc that the discussion is aimed at.

If people don't want to breastfeed, they shouldn't be made or pressured to, but women are entilted to accurate information, if they want to be educated. They are also entiltled to know that this information and education exists if they dont

Whatever choice they make is up to them, its arming them with relvant, accurate information, education, and support mechanisms so that someone who really does want to breastfeed, or who has not made up their mind, can be better equipped to do so.