OK, I give up, I have tried to help you and I'm sorry if my links were too commercial for you - you didn't specify that you were only interested in scientific and medical journal articles. Clearly I have offended you again although I was only trying to help and I don't think you can possibly know it all simply because you are a scrub nurse. Like the breastfeeding article for example, I assume that you aren't on the wards with post-op mothers trying to establish BF are you? Some women post-op have a lot of trouble for various reasons and I thought that article would have been helpful for you. Finally, like has been suggested to you, CALL a hospital as ASK them.