Gender Swaying Information #6

[lilima]

Hi,
This is only the 2nd month we have been TTC #2. So still early days! For those who use OPK's, do you find them expensive?

[Tanya]

If you get them from the supermarket, yep, the price of OPK's is a KILLER!! Get them from ebay... much cheaper, even if you get them from the US... the postage minimal.

[Mrs Happy]

Hiya Ladies my hubby and I are trying for a bubba girl...I got the positive OPK reading today...
how long from my positive OPK reading do I actually ovulate.

Cheers Betty

[Tanya]

24-36hrs

[Mrs Happy]

Ta Tanya.... well I'm off to baby dace to TRY CATCH our baby girl!!!! wooohooo!!!!!

Its 9pm here in Perth, so good night sweet dreams chicks xx


Cheers Betty

[amy...]

hi

just a quick question i usually get o pain and ewcm at the same time does this mean that it is this point i am o. should i wait another 12 or so hours to dtd to try and sway for a boy? not long till we try now fingers crossed..

[Tanya]

I would say BD when you have the most EWCM... if you wait too long you will have a O+12 attempt which is a swaying technique for a girl....

[Mrs Happy]

Hiya Tanya and Ladies.

Tanya is this LUBE any good - you know in the PH side of things for conceiving a girl.


Cheers Betty

[Tanya]

Sorry didn't see your post Betty... yeah the ones I mentioned are for ttc a girl... not pre-seed.

Ok... here's some more girl diet info
THE GIRL DIET

Daily recommended supps Calcium 800mg, Magnesium 300mg, Vitamin D (also cut out as much sodiuma and potasium - read your lables)

Suppliments
Every day of the cycle
Calcium (1200 mg a day) take from af to O calcium in the cm helps to sway for a girl
Magnesium (250 mg a day)take from af to O Mag. in the cm helps to sway for a girl
Folic Acid (450 mcg a day)take all the time THIS DOES NOT SWAY! IT PREVENTS BIRTHDEFECTS AND PREVENTS MC
Acidilophis (2 a day) take from af to OThis is taken to lower pH. side effects: this is a funny supplment. Either it will lower your pH dramaticaly or you will raise it. It is different for different people
B6 (100 mg a day) Take all the time, but when you get a bfp you need to ween off slowly- if you take 100 this means the next week you take 80, then the next week 60 then 40, 20, 10 then stop. This is taken to raise progestrone and legthen luteal phase. Side efffects: When taken before O it may dealy O. It will also legthen your luteal phase
Chasteberry (Vitex) (500 mg a day) this has progestrone so you need to treat it the same as you would with b6
Tums (whenever you think about it- isn’t necessary to take this and calcium since it is the same thing)

Every day from AF to O
Cranberry (total of 1,500 to 10,000 mg a day if possible) take from af to O this is taken to lower pH side effect: cranberry can not be taken after O as it can cause mc. Cranberry is a blood thinner so if you already taking a blood thinner do not take this.
Lydia Pinkham (take from af to O) this is taken to raise progestrone and regulate cycles side effect: This will either make your cycles regural or screw them up

Before sex
Sudafed (or Claratin D, etc.) (a few hours before sex) this is taken to lower pH and dry up cm

Husband take
Cranberry (as much as he’ll take) side effect: blood thinner.. see above
Any of the other supplements you are taking if he’ll take them except Vitex or Lydia Pinkham.


Daily Fluid Intake Must be 2-2 1/2 litres (8-10 glasses) This is very important for proper calcium absorbtion

DIETARY GUIDELINES

Milk Products : Drink 750 ml milk daily. Include 2 milk products such as yoghurt & custard daily

Eggs: Allowed

Cheese: Small serves cottage cheese. 1 dessertspn of parmesan cheese twice a week

Drinks

Tea & Coffee: Basically forbidden but one cup only of either is acceptable. It must be very weak!

Mineral Water: Evian, Perrier (all other brands are too high in pot/sodium)

Wine: An Occassional drink allowed (150ml)

Meat (maximum 130g per day)

Lamb: 1 midloin chop(large) or 1 chump chop(medium) or 1 forequarter chop

Beef: 1 piece oyster blade (med) or 1/2 t-bone steak or 1pce eye fillet (2.5cm thick)

Pork: 1 butterfly steak or 1 midloin (med)

Chicken: 1 breast & meat from 1 drumstick

Fish: Must be cooked in a 'court bouillon' ie poached in 500ml water, a little wine & herbs.. discard liquid to serve...reduces natural salt content

Bread: Must be low salt content (less than 1%), white has less potassium, salt free crispbread or crackers

Pasta: Permitted without restriction if prepared without forbidden ingredients

Rice: brown or white permitted

Cereals: Semolina, Tapioca, Cous cous, Corn flour, plain wheat flour (not SR), puffed rice

Vegetables: Maximum allowance 150g daily

Allowed: fresh or frozen carrots, green beans, turnips, onion, leeks, peas, cucumbers, radishes, green/red peppers, cress, celery,eggplant, fresh asparagus

Potatoes Not to be eaten more than 3 times per week

Fruit: maximum allowance 150g daily

May be fresh frozen or canned...small apple 110g, pear (med) 170g, raspberries 1/2 cup 50g, strawberries large 15-20g each

Tinned ONLY (not fresh) & without syrup...pineapple, plums,peaches

Nuts: unsalted walnuts, hazelnuts, almonds, peanuts

Sweet Foods

Jams: Not more than once a day, only one desertspn

Sugar/Honey:Restrict as much as possible as too much sugar interferes with calcium absorbtion

Concession: 1 orange & 1 lemon per week

Herbs: Allspice, aniseed, bay leaves, cloves, chives, chervil, chilli,coriander,cilantro,cumin, garlic, horseradish,juniper,marjoram, mint, paprika, parsley,saffron, sage, thyme, tumeric

Miscellaneous: Vegetable oils, pepper, spices, mustard, gelatine, homemade sauces without salt or forbidden ingredients

Cooking Tips: Do not use a salt substitute...everything must be cooked without salt. Onions, garlic, pepper & spices can be used to improve the flavour of food.

FORBIDDEN FOODS

Drinks: coffee, tea,chocolate, mineral waters(except those permitted), cordial, fresh or tinned juice, fizzy drinks, wine, beer, cola, cider, liqueurs, apertifs

Meat: all smallgoods including smoked meats

Fish: fish fingers, smoked, dried or salted fish, tinned fish,shellfish, prawns,anchovies, caviar

Cheese:all forbidden (high salt)

Bread/ pastries: white, wholemeal, rye bread, milk loaf, fruit loaf, crispbreads, croissants, buns,bought biscuits, cakes, icecream, quiches, pizzas

Fresh fruit: Pineapples, plums, peaches, apricots, cherries, bananas, oranges,melons, lemons, grapefruit, redcurrants, grapes, fruit juices

Dried fruit: apricots, dates, figs, raisins, chestnuts, sultanas, prunes, coconut, currants

Vegetables: sweet corn, flat leaf continental parsley,spinach, cabbage, mushrooms, endive, avocado, fennel, raw tomatoes, soya beans,pumpkin, split peas,broad beans, lentils, haricot beans

Sweets: chocolates, lollies

Salt: of any description

Chemical raising agents, bicarb soda, effervescent drugs

Soups from sachet or tins, stock cubes

Tomato paste, sauce, bottled mayonnaise or other sauces

Tinned fresh or frozen ready made meal

Jelly

Salted or slightly salted butter or margarine

Olives, gherkins, marinades, pickles, popcorn

UNDERSTANDING YOUR DIET

It is important that you understand the principles which form the basis of this diet. Essentially it requires you to eat foods that are rich in calcium & magnesium but low in potassium & sodium. This must be strictly adhered to if you are to gain maximum benefit from it.

Why are these restrictions necessary?

Tea,Coffee & Alcohol

Each cup of tea or coffee causes you to lose calcium from your body. Alcohol with its diuretic effect also causes the kidneys to excrete more calcium than they would normally

Chocolate: This is very high in potassium & contains oxalates which bind with calcium & make it unusable

Wheat Bran: This contains phytates which also rob the body of calcium. For eg., for every 100g of bran that is eaten the body loses 350 mg calcium

Meat: Restricted because of its high protein content. If you eat more than 120g protein a day you begin to enter a dietary range where the protein will cause calcium loss.

Sugar: Heavy intake of sugar will cause you to lose calcium through excess excretion. It is recommended that you keep your sugar intake to less than 60 g per day

Important Facts To Note

Always drink 8-10 glasses of water per day. It is important to drink this amount as it will help the body to dissolve & to absorb the increased calcium that is being taken in, whether from food or supplements. Calcium cannot be absorbed well or excreted safely without water.

Do not attempt this diet if you suffer from poor kidney function .This could result in kidney stones due to the increased calcium intake.

Commence the diet & mineral supplements 6 -10 weeks before a planned conception.

It must be stressed that the diet should only be undertaken with careful medical or naturopath supervision. It is recommended to have a check up before starting & to continue regular check ups whilst on the diet to ensure that excessive electrolyte imbalance is avoided.

This diet was extracted from "the girl diet", an e-book purchased from Sue Roebuck, a natural fertility naturopath in Australia.

Suppliments
Every day of the cycle
Calcium (1200 mg a day)
Magnesium (250 mg a day)
Acidilophis (2 a day)
B6 (100 mg a day) Take all the time, but when you get a bfp you need to ween off slowly- if you take 100 this means the next week you take 80, then the next week 60 then 40, 20, 10 then stop. This is taken to raise progestrone and legthen luteal phase. Side efffects: When taken before O it may dealy O. It will also legthen your luteal phase
Chasteberry (Vitex) (500 mg a day) this has progestrone so you need to treat it the same as you would with b6
Cranberry (total of 1,500 to 10,000 mg a day if possible) cranberry can not be taken after O as it can cause mc.

Before sex
Sudafed (a few hours before sex) this is taken to lower pH and dry up cm

Husband take
Cranberry

Thanks to the girls at in-gender for this info

[Tanya]

Douching an hour before is critical for this to work. Then the new step for ttc a girl starts a ? hour after bd or tbm. After having your hips elevated for ? hour take a mixture of vinegar and distilled water and place it in a douche bag (you want about ? the bag full or about 60-80 ml or 2-2.5 oz ) and insert it into the vj. Then take a lime soaked tampon and place it in there to prevent leakage- you can remove this ? hour later. The following is explanation on how to make the mix, the pickle vinegar tampon, and other info

*For the mix you want this to have a pH of 4 (2-2.5oz of distilled water and 5ml of vinegar). The study this is based on uses vinegar.

*To make a vinegar soaked tampon you put vinegar in a plastic cup and soak the tampon while still in the plastic applicator. Right before inserting take the tampon out so that it isn't dripping. Then you insert it while still lying down and leave it in for about 30 minutes.

From in-gender

[BekZ]

Hello Ladies,

DH and I have decided to ttc #3 at the end of the year. Firstly we would love a healthy bubby but we would also really love a "blue: bundle. We have 2 DD's one 2.8 years and bub is 7 months!!! Obviously we have the pink recipe, so now we need the blue recipe.

I have heard that a womens ph can help to determine the sex of a bub. I have also seen some ph sticks on Lullaby Conceptions.

Does anyone know how this works?

[Tanya]

Bek, there is lots of info throughout these gender swaying threads, each thread is linked to the last one in the first post. I have also linked some info in the first thread. Check it out

[Kazmar]

Omg! I really want to sway toward a girl next. But that has just scared me, alot to take in! And Dp will wonder why Im swaying for a girl when he would like to try for a boy

[Dasharity]

Hi everyone, i was just wondering when on the girl diet are you alowed to drink decefe coffee and green tea or are you not alowed these either.
Thanks

How does lemon make you alkaline when it is an acid?

[NaeNae]

HI All,

I would love to try swaying for a boy, there hasn't been a boy born to any of DH brothers (7 girls) it would be great if I could have a boy.

Can anyone please (in simple terms I am a bit dense) tell me what I should be doing for diet, position and timing wise?

Ta

[leeloo]

Hello everybody...

I have two little boys and I want to try for a girl this time around.... heres what I have been doing...

At the moment I am taking Calcium and Magnesium tablets, a Pregnancy Multi, Cranberry tablets. I have been looking at the Shettles Method and have a really early cut off day so as not to get too close to ovulation.

I have also been looking at O+12 but am still abit wary about this as it seems so close to ovulation that I'm not sure how its possible to get anything but a boy!!

Has anyone had success conceiving a girl using either the Shettles or O+12 methods?

L.

[Feijoa Mum]

Oh man there is so much to take in where do you start?

I have four beautiful healthy boys and would desparately love a little girl to complete our family. We havent started trying yet as this is our last chance and I really dont want to get it wrong. I have bought the opk and Ph kits from ebay and have read up a little (so much info) about diet, supplements, books etc.

On a personal note though I need to be in the right head space for this and I dont think I am just yet. I have just found out my brother is having a little girl and I am very jealous. Happy for them of course but I want it to be me. My last son was supposed to be our last and I was upset for days when we discovered he was a boy. Dont get me wrong I love him to death and cant imagine not having him but I am really scared of my reaction if we have another son.
I am incrediably grateful for my boys and their health but I cant help but think of the little girl I want so badly.
Does anyone else feel this way? Scared to get pregnant but scared not to?

[dusty]

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