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  1. #1
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    May 2004
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    Just thought I would post this as I know a lot of girls are interested

    Taken from the book: Choose the sex of your baby - the natural way by Hazel Chesterman-Phillips

    I have always been dubious about the diet method in sex selection because I found it unnecessary. I did not change my diet before conceiving either sex of child. In fact, my natural preference was heavily weighted towards the dairy diet recommended for conceiving girls. Maybe that explains the early arrival of my two daughters? I think not; as I did not change my eating habits when I tried for and got my son. I only changed the timing of intercourse,
    The French Dr Francois Papa admits that it is a long and gruelling task to change the body's chemical make up through diet but he claims to do it as a means of determining the sex of offspring. On the other hand, I think that the natural secretions of a woman's body at various times in the menstrual cycle_ are more significant. Get the timing right and your hormones will do the rest for you in providing the relevant mucus. Nature's sex selection does not work by so clumsy a method as diet change. So what is this chemical change and how can diet help? Let us turn to France. Trust the French to find the answer in food!
    Dr Papa is consultant gynecologist at the Port Royale Hospital in Paris. He worked out a dif1t theory for sex selection based op four vital mineral salts found in the body. These are:

    1 For boys: Sodium and Potassium (powerful alkalis based on alkali metals)
    2 For girls: Calcium and Magnesium (from Carboniferous limestone rocks)

    Sodium and Potassium attract male-bearing androsperm (y). Calcium and Magnesium attract female-bearing gynesperm (X). The clever idea of the diet is to alter the chemical composition of the egg so that it attracts the desired sperm.


    FOOD TO GET A BOY

    As much salt as possible: salted butter, salted and smoked meats.
    All meats, fresh or pre-cooked. Especially beef, since cattle are often treated, before slaughter, with male growth hormone, which is then passed on to the consumers of the beef. Of course, this is rather dubious in the light of the current BSE threat. Other meats may have to suffice.
    All fish, and two eggs weekly.
    White bread and white-flour crisp bread.
    White-flour cakes, pastries and biscuits.
    Pasta, rice, semolina (all without milk).
    Milk-free puddings and sauces.
    Most vegetables (except those forbidden below): sweetcorn, popcorn, parsley, mushrooms, courgettes, endive, avocado, fennel, raw tomatoes, soya beans, peas and beans, chestnuts.
    All fresh fruit, particularly Potassium-rich bananas and fresh pineapple.
    Dried prunes, raisins, figs, apricots.
    Sugar, jam, fruit jellies, sorbets.
    Oils and milk-free margarines.
    Soups, olives and gherkins.

    FORBIDDEN WHILE TRYING FOR A BOY

    Milk in any form'- butter, cheese, yogurt. Shellfish, molluscs (mussels etc.). Wholemeal bread.
    Salad vegetables: raw cabbage and cauliflower, spinach, cress.
    Nuts, cocoa, chocolate, mustard.



    FOOD TO GET A GIRL

    As much milk as possible (1 1/3 pints or 770 ml per day). Fresh cream, yogurt.
    Limited meat or fish (1 1/4 OZ or 125 g per day).
    Unsalted butter, unsalted soft cheese.
    Milk puddings.
    Salt-free wholemeal bread, crisp-bread and pastry, without yeast.
    Rice, pasta, semolina, tapioca.
    Limited amount of potatoes.
    Fresh or, frozen carrots, green beans turnips, aubergines, onions, leeks, peas.
    Cucumber, radishes, peppers, cress, celeriac, celery.
    Unsalted walnuts, hazelnuts almonds, peanuts.
    Fresh, frozen or tinned apples, pears, clementines, strawberries, raspberries. Tinned only pineapples, plums and peaches, all without syrup. Jam once daily, sugar, honey.
    Vegetable oils, spices, home-made sauces without salt.
    Mineral water.

    FORBIDDEN WHILE TRYING FOR A GIRL

    Salt and salt substitute. All salted or smoked foods, including salty cheese.
    Coffee, tea, tinned fruit juice, fizzy drinks.
    Wine, beer, cider, liqueurs, aperitifs.
    All meat and fish, except for daily allowance above.
    White bread, pasties and biscuits, unless salt-free crisps.
    Sweetcorn, popcorn, parsley, spinach, cabbage, cauliflower, mushrooms, courgettes, endive, avocados, fennel, raw tomatoes, soya beans, dried peas and beans.
    All fresh fruit except those listed above as allowed; dried fruit. Chocolates and sweets.
    Bicarbonate of soda and all prepared sauces.
    All ready-made dishes whether tinned, fresh or frozen.

    Now a word of caution. If you suffer from certain conditions, these diets may be dangerous for you. The salty, boy diet should not be undertaken by anyone who has high blood pressure. The girl diet should not be undertaken by anyone who has kidney stones or high blood calcium levels. If in doubt, check with your GP first.
    And make sure that any restrictions you put on yourself don't lead to an unbalanced diet. A plentiful supply of nutritious food is essential just now to you and your unborn baby. When all is said and done the health of parents and baby is of paramount importance. If the diet upsets you in any way, come off it. Dawn Osborne said her cycles had become unpredictably longer since she had been following Mr Hewitt's diet. And the high doses of Vitamin C gave her diarrhoea and made her feel ill. So she stopped. Nevertheless, Dawn and Darren got their daughter by sticking to the correct rules for timing and sperm count. Kristina joins her big brothers, Matthew and James.

    But, if you really want to try a rigid diet, contact:
    Mr Jonathan Hewitt, MB, Ch.B, MRCOG
    Consultant Gynaecologist
    Liverpool Women's Hospital
    Crown Street
    Liverpool L8 TSS
    tel: 0151 708 9988







  2. #2
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    May 2006
    Melbourne
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    Hi Tanya
    I have been trying on and off for boy for last year and a half, don't know whether it has been a very good idea, seems to have stopped me from getting pregnant. I have definitely done my head in with it all, testing ,timing etc (I already have two girls each conceived first month of trying), so I thought I would try the shettles method, along with the theory about moon phases. No luck as of yet and I'm very anxious and frustrated. I hope you have a little more success than me, just reading some of the posts though, it isn't guaranteed and really, it is just luck. I have also read it can be the enviroment of the woman. (Which is why some people keep having same sex continously). Maybe my environment favours girl and the boy sperm just don't survive there. I know heaps about it all, read waaay toooo much.
    I don't know whether to keep it all up, recently went to obs who told me to let nature take its place. Just that I've tried for this long, maybe keep doing it a couple more months. My age is against me though.
    good luck, let me know how you go

  3. #3
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    May 2006
    Melbourne
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    HI Tanya.
    I'm only new and just read through some posts, was very upset to read about you m/c, I didn't know when doing previous post. Sorry.
    Lilylou

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    May 2004
    Shepparton
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    Hi
    Are you just using the timing method? Maybe you could try the diet too (posted above)?? Usually it takes longer to conceive when tring for a girl due to the cut off...I hope you get a BFP soon.

    Tanya

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    We did the deed on the day of ovulation hoping to sway the odds for a boy, but we're having another girl...oh well we tried!

  6. #6
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    May 2006
    Melbourne
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    Hi Flea
    Congratulations firstly, baby no 2 on the way
    that's interesting because you bd exactly when you where suppose to. Prior to bd'ing right on ovulation, how long before this did you bd.? (sperm can live 5 sometimes more days in the right environment, maybe there were still sperm alive from earlier??) sorry, I sound nosey.
    lilylou

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    Hi Flea
    Congratulations firstly, baby no 2 on the way
    that's interesting because you bd exactly when you where suppose to. Prior to bd'ing right on ovulation, how long before this did you bd.? (sperm can live 5 sometimes more days in the right environment, maybe there were still sperm alive from earlier??) sorry, I sound nosey.
    lilylou
    Thanks!
    That was the interesting thing - we weren't ttc'ing that month because we were waiting on the results of some genetic testing (I am a CF carrier, we just waiting on DH's results) before we tried to get pregnant.
    The day the results came back (all clear) I knew I was o'ing so we just said "what the hell" and decided to give it a shot. Once! One time only!!! And here we are
    Perfect example I guess of how you can tilt the odds but there's still no guarantees.
    Last edited by Tobily; May 9th, 2006 at 09:56 AM.

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    We did the deed on the day of ovulation hoping to sway the odds for a boy, but we're having another girl...oh well we tried!
    Ummmm..update.

    Looks like it worked, we're having a boy after all

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    May 2006
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    Hi Tanya,
    I've heard the same thing, it is usually easier to conceive a boy than a girl? I guess that makes sense because we can detect ovulation then do the bding, the girl thing is a bit of guess work. Have you ever looked at the moon phase theory, it's kind of interesting. The only thing I haven't tried is the diet, I will print it up and have a look at it, I don't know whether I can keep trying for much longer (I have an age thing happening, over 40) although there is nothing wrong with me. My doctor told me to stop all of this and go for it, probably good advice, I just feel anoyed because of how long I have been trying this boy thing. something tells me my body doesn't like to fall pregnant right on ovulation, its like it needs to have the sperm sitting there earlier??? who knows, If I stopped all of this next month, I would probably fall pregnant. I'm worried about all too much. A healthy baby is more important.

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    Reading that list of foods makes me all the more appreciative for my little girl. I didn't change my diet at all, and my regular diet is pretty much full of all of the 'no no' foods for conceiving a girl. We DTD the day before, on and after ovulation.

    Further, there is some research that says the genetic background of the man in conceiving has input. My husband is one of three boys and Maddy is the first girl in quite a while. The first grandchild was also a boy.

    Here's hoping that influences the next one in 2-3 years because I'd like to have a boy for my husband.

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    Lilylou, I have heard of the luna phase theory... If I O when I think I will good boy days are 21pm-24am then the 27 and 28pm. I have also read about planets... There is a lady on a nother site who does predictions using planitary charts and she seems to be getting quite a few correct!!

    Flea, I have read aobut a lot of Shettles opposites... but did your DH abstain for 4-7 days prior to BD?? Shettles recommends this to build up boy sperms (wheich he says are weaker than the X ones and need a bit of time to build up).

    Becka, the funny thing about the diet is that you have to be pretty strickt with avoiding one group of elemnts when ttc a particular sex. So I think even tho you may have eaten certain food that were on the 'no-no' list, you still may have had enough calcium and magnesium in your system for it not to matter.

    But then again, nothing is 100%, so you could both be opposites to what the reaseach has shown may aid in helping conceive the gender of choice.

    Tanya
    *edited* to say I am sorry for all the really bad spelin

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    Flea, I have read aobut a lot of Shettles opposites... but did your DH abstain for 4-7 days prior to BD?? Shettles recommends this to build up boy sperms (wheich he says are weaker than the X ones and need a bit of time to build up).

    Tanya
    Yeah he did! That's why we were a bit shocked to be having a girl, because we hadn't bd'd at ALL that month, waiting for the test results before we started trying.

    Unless of course he was bad by himself....totally possible too! LMAO.

  13. #13
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    Hi, we were trying the Shettles Method to conceive a boy. Unforunately things didn't go to plan and hubby was away when he was supposed to be home, lol. I fell pregnant with our daughter 4 days after ovulation. Trying for a boy early next year.

    Sharon

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    Mar 2004
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    It worked for me.

    I was overseas (without DH!) up until Day 15 of my cycle, so obviously no BD-ing. I noticed lots of EWCM whilst away and pretty much ruled the month out all together. The only time we BD'd that cycle was the night of Day 15 and I had Aidan 9 months later! I wanted a boy so it worked perfectly for us, not that I knew I was doing the right thing at the time.

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    Jul 2005
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    Well, we weren't trying at all... let alone trying for one or the other. But just in case it helps!

    We BD'd a couple of days before I suspect I O'd, then again the day I O'd and a day after (as best as I could recall when I did the pg test a week and a bit later!). I *think* I got pg from the middle time when I O'd. We had a girl and I think that would fit with the theory since we'd BD'd b4, during and after O and didn't abstain for any length of time.

    We'll be trying for a boy next time around, but I really don't care. In fact, if it's another girl I know I'll have an easier time talking DP into #3!!

  16. #16
    Emm Guest

    We are trying for a boy.
    Only BD on ovulation day and just before.
    I am also drinking cranberry juice and ural (trying to lower the acidity)
    I will now start drinking grapefruit juice too!

  17. #17
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    Jan 2006
    South Australia
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    LOL Flea Congrats on your boy on the way.

    I've been reading quite a few posts, and I'm pretty confused. What are you supposed to do if you're trying for a girl? I'm interested in any foods plus timing. Probably more the foods as I'm not commited enough to be doing ovulation testing or anything.

    A friend of mine was doing saliva ovulation tests every day so that she could sway towards a boy. The tests showed that she didn't ovulate at all one month, but that's when she fell pregnant. They are happy, as it turns out she has a boy on the way.

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    Oct 2004
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    I find this all very interesting because it never occured to me that people tried specifically for a boy or girl.. I have heard about boy sperm swimming faster but dying quicker than girl sperm, but i reaally just still thought it was pot luck...
    I am not trying for a boy or girl specifically, I am just going to be thrilled with either.

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