Awww Ta Rouge, likewise. And yep it's always a good thing to be a little reflective on how we are making our way through life. It worries me when I have dealings with non-reflective people or people who don't make the time (because they are always distracting themselves with constant music via ear plugs etc) or have the inclination to think about their interactions with others. And not to be too smug LOL but of course you (collective) can also be too reflective which i think forms the basis of my neuroticism. Thanks Inanna for your vote of confidence Maybe I should substitute the word "eccentric"? it's just that that sounds a bit too self indulgent... but I don't need to make this all about me again!
This sprang to mind when I made the comment about writing poetry about people we struggle with:
Franky Mr Shankly
(The Smiths)
Frankly, Mr. Shankly, this position I've held
It pays my way, and it corrodes my soul
I want to leave, you will not miss me
I want to go down in musical history
Frankly, Mr. Shankly, I'm a sickening wreck
I've got the 21st century breathing down my neck
I must move fast, you understand me
I want to go down in celluloid history, Mr. Shankly
Fame, Fame, fatal Fame
It can play hideous tricks on the brain
But still I'd rather be Famous
Than righteous or holy, any day
Any day, any day
But sometimes I'd feel more fulfilled
Making Christmas cards with the mentally ill
I want to live and I want to Love
I want to catch something that I might be ashamed of
Frankly, Mr. Shankly, this position I've held
It pays my way and it corrodes my soul
Oh, I didn't realise that you wrote poetry
I didn't realise you wrote such bloody awful poetry, Mr. Shankly
Frankly, Mr. Shankly, since you ask
You are a flatulent pain in the arse
I do not mean to be so rude
Still, I must speak frankly, Mr. Shankly
I think eccentric is a great word! You certainly don't come across as neurotic in the "real" sense to me at least!!! I guess having a medical background I've had dealings with true neurosis and you aint it!
I sometimes wonder if you can be too reflective - and I guess that's an individual choice for each person. Personally I don't think one can reflect enough. I hold a habit of meditating at the start & end of the day. Bringing myself to account for any harm I may have inflicted or other ways of dealing with life. (for me) it has really helped contain that reflection. I will often question myself as I go about myday - out loud to whomever is in my company!!!
For me it has helped to a) bring myself to accoutability to myself b) question myself against respected others. We have a "circle" of friends where we discuss these types of issues and that's a great weekly thing to do. It really for me is like turning over the dirt so to speak - getting in and really questioning what other ways to respond, act, celebrate the accomplishments and have support through the stuff ups! All with loving support.
It's too late for me I haven't been able to "get" your poem but I look forward to reading it when I can reflect on its meaning...
LOL there's not much to "get" about those song lyrics Inanna It was just an example of how you can change/choose your perspective in your challenging interactions with people. I've read Morrissey's biography and I know that he really struggled to be happy in his early years, especially in school/work environments because of poor interpersonal skills. He has a lot of built up anger about it but manages to let it out in a safety valve of creativity and humour. I try to learn from this. And I often apply it to challenging situations here on BB. If I read a thread that leaves my blood boiling I can often choose to sit back and look at it in a different way. Sometimes in explaining it to DH the humour of it comes out.
Me: "Oh for goodness sake these comments in these thread are just so so so... people need to bloody well stop and think about how what they are saying is being interpreted by others! Nark nark nark etc"
DH "Hehe... listen to you... all in a flap, go hang out in the hen house for a while then"
So of course the idea of me sitting in the hen house de-briefing with Tina (our chicken) makes me laugh and I gain a bit of perspective. I've taken that all important step back and looked at the situation with a degree of separation. I think it's important to be able to do that. I wish I could manage my time better to meditate... but at least I have the hen house!
Last edited by Bathsheba; August 13th, 2010 at 12:22 PM.
Oh Bath, that is so like a conversation that would happen here. Not about the threads necessarily but even if our behaviour to each other isn't always up to scratch (no pun intended) then we will often make light heart of it, or realise our shortcomings first and make light of ourselves. And you are right it does give great perspective. Bath I'll have to send you some of the meditation apps/podcasts I use. I often do them right before bed or when I have 20 mins to myself in the afternoon, or even wake just that little bit earlier to start my day after some reflection. It definitely helps for sure.
LOL @ Poems. That's a great idea. But y'know I think some of the most neurotic people make the most thoughtful.
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Ta Rouge, likewise. And yep it's always a good thing to be a little reflective on how we are making our way through life. It worries me when I have dealings with non-reflective people or people who don't make the time (because they are always distracting themselves with constant music via ear plugs etc) or have the inclination to think about their interactions with others. And not to be too smug LOL but of course you (collective) can also be too reflective which i think forms the basis of my neuroticism. Thanks Inanna for your vote of confidence
It was just an example of how you can change/choose your perspective in your challenging interactions with people. I've read Morrissey's biography and I know that he really struggled to be happy in his early years, especially in school/work environments because of poor interpersonal skills. He has a lot of built up anger about it but manages to let it out in a safety valve of creativity and humour. I try to learn from this. And I often apply it to challenging situations here on BB. If I read a thread that leaves my blood boiling I can often choose to sit back and look at it in a different way. Sometimes in explaining it to DH the humour of it comes out.
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