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thread: Long Term TTC & Assisted Conception - August/September 09

  1. #199
    Registered User

    Apr 2009
    266

    Nix - I am so sorry to hear about your result. I hope you are feeling a bit better today and glad to hear DH has been looking after you.

    Lise - GL with your ET tody.

    Wishes - it's disappointing that you lost so many embies but 8 is still a great result. 2 of my frosties are day 6 as well and one of them ended up being a hatching blastie so it shows they can be just as strong. I have no idea what grading my embies are, not sure if I want to... as you say it seems to add a bit more pressure. All the best for your break. I hope you enjoy you R&R and come back rearing to go!

    Colour - Sorry can't help with your Q. Some of the other ladies might be, if not here's a link to a TTC with herbal supliments thread or TTC 1- 6 months.

  2. #200
    Registered User

    Dec 2008
    Leongatha - South Gippsland, Victoria
    1,140

    Tantee ~ Sorry you're so confused as to what to do. Your FS should be able to tell you what would be best shouldnt they. GL with it all. Hugs and

    Mummawannabe ~ I hope it does work for you 1st try. Someone has to be lucky and I hope its you! xo. And others also. FX

    Onja ~ Such a fantastic attitude and very inspiring and encouraging words - thank you.
    You go girl! And all the best for the road ahead. Sorry it was a negative this time round xo

    Lise ~ GL today hun. Thanks for all your support and wishes xo.

    Melttc ~ Glad you are getting started! All the best of luck with the journey. Hope it works out 1st time for you.

    Wishes ~ thanks for asking, yes my FS appointment was today.
    Your results are excellent. I didnt get any to freeze so I believe you are blessed and I truly hope they all do well for you. Hope you come back to visit and chat but have a nice break. xo

    Nix ~ so sorry hun Chin up. The way I looked at it was - i would have been guilty if it worked 1st time because others have gone through so much more than me. But also it really seems to be just the luck of the draw sometimes. We will get there, we just have to hang in there! All the best, hope you're feeling a bit better today xo

    Kate ~ hi and welcome. GL with the road ahead and I truly hope you can get pregnant again. FX!

    AFM ~ Had FS appointment yestie after failed 1st IVF try in August. Got some good news - he said it is looking as though we wont have to worry about the safety net being dropped and in actual fact he said we may be less out of pocket next year.
    He is going to up my dosage of Synarel next time and probably the other hormones because he was disappointed with the amount of eggs we got but that will be the only difference probably. Hopefully it was just that we were unlucky this 1st round. We had a Grade A - expanded blastie transferred but that didnt stick. But I guess that doesnt mean the next one wont! I will be waiting until December and hopefully by then we will be out of debt and will be able to afford it.

    Hi to everyone and sending lots of and

  3. #201
    Registered User

    Dec 2008
    Leongatha - South Gippsland, Victoria
    1,140

    Emstar, Juniper and Mitf ~ sorry just missed you all, must have been posting at the same time. GL to you all with your next cycles and ART.
    xo

  4. #202
    Registered User

    Aug 2009
    Back in the bush Capital
    660

    Hi ladies,

    Apologies in advance for no personals - feeling a bit sad today.

    DH and I had the day off to relax in preparation for our ET at 4pm today. Did some DFO shopping and on the way home received a call from our FS. I knew straight away it wasn't going to be good, and he said that he had bad news. Of the 5 eggs they collected on Wednesday 2 had fertilised, but then something went wrong and we were unable to go ahead with our ET. He said that wasn't normal, but we'd talk next week about where to go from here.

    I was surprised with how upset I was, I mean, i've had two years worth of TTC so i'm quite used to AF showing her ugly head, but this was a totally different emotion. DH and I are at home, had a bit of a cry and now consoling myself with ice cream and chocolate, with the wine chilling in the fridge. I'm going to allow myself today to feel sad and sorry for myself (I can't stop thinking about all the things I did/should have done that might have made a difference) and get up tomorrow ready to start again.


    Anyway, I hope everyone is well and has a good weekend.

    lise xx

  5. #203
    Registered User

    Aug 2009
    Back in the bush Capital
    660

    Nix - I meant to say so sorry to hear your news. Hope you're hanging in there.

  6. #204
    Registered User

    Aug 2009
    Gold Coast
    278

    Hi Ladies,

    I haven't posted in this thread before although I see some familiar names from the TWW .
    I was just exploring and discovered that this thread existed. As I'm gearing up for a stim cycle (on pill and due to start Lucrin injections on Sept 25) it looks as though this is right place to chat

    Lise - I am sorry to hear your news... and big hugs to you

    Loops - Just curious... did your FS elaborate on the safety net thing? We are looking at doing two back to back stims before the end of the year because of the safety net thing... Has there been talk of a change? I so hope so

    I know that I missed allot of people (sorry) and will read up over the weekend to catch up..

    to everyone and I hope that there will be many BFP's coming our way!

  7. #205
    Registered User

    Apr 2009
    266

    lise - I am so sorry to hear that none of your little embies have made it. I can understand that you are feeling really upset about the whole thing. After 2 years TTC IVF holds that beacon of hope that finally maybe we will get to where we have been aiming for so long. GL with talking to your FS next week, I am sure he will have some solutions on how to help you achieve your BFP next time. In the mean time enjoy those glasses of wine and as you say it's a new day tomorrow!

    EmStar - There is a great bunch of ladies here to share your thoughts with and ask questions.

    Loops - glad to hear the FS appointment went well yesterday and he has a bit of plan for next time. FX that it will be second time lucky for you! I have also heard that the Gov has backed down a little on the IVF changes and it may not impact us as much as we thought... here's hoping! I am seeing my FS on Monday as well which will be good.

    mitf xo
    Last edited by mitf; September 11th, 2009 at 11:12 PM.

  8. #206
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    Apr 2009
    266

    Coral - we must have been posting at the same time. Welcome to this tread. Re the IVF changes - I hope I am allowed to do this but here is a link to an article I read on the SMH last week. I guess we will know more in about a week.

    IVF fee clampdown test for Roxon
    Last edited by mitf; September 11th, 2009 at 04:40 PM.

  9. #207
    Registered User

    Aug 2009
    Gold Coast
    278

    Times/Emesl undoing

    Hi Mitf,

    OMG thank you! That is soooo good! It was such a stress and I was kinda ignoring what it would mean to us when it happened (denial is a lovely thing!). I so hope it's not as bad as we first thought

  10. #208
    Registered User

    Dec 2008
    Leongatha - South Gippsland, Victoria
    1,140

    Hi Lovely ladies

    Lise ~ so sorry hun. It was nothing you did or didnt do, I went through the exact same thoughts as my embies didnt end up doing any good either. (I had one transferred but the rest were no good). Im afraid its just the luck of the draw, im sure you've been staying healthy etcs, there is not much else you can do. Be positive - you'll get there before long. Big xo

    Coral ~ I find it hard to follow all the technical jargon of it all so didnt quite understand but he said something to do with points being passed at a political level or something and it was now likely the safety net wouldnt be capped and in fact we might be less out of pocket next year compared to this yr. Thats probably about all I can tell you.
    I personally just hope for the best.

    Mitf - thanks so much for your support. All the best for your appointment on Mon! Hope he can shed some more light about the safety net issue.

    Have a nice weekend everyone. Hope the sun stays shinning.

  11. #209
    Registered User

    May 2009
    110

    mitf - thanks for your support. It's great that you have a hatching blastie from day 6. It's funny you said that though, because I actually spoke to our scientist this morning re the quality of our embies, and she said that of our 6 embies frozen on day 6, that 1 of them was a hatching blastie too. I was so excited when I got off the phone and ran to tell DH. Maybe I'm blowing it all out of proportion, but it just seems to me that nearly every girl who's said they've had a hatching blastie put back in, they've ended up getting pregnant from it. It's also good to know that our blasties have the capacity to hatch too (since normally we have no idea what happens to them when they're put back in). Anyway, hope your FS appointment next week goes well.

    Loops - look at me....I'm only day 1 of my supposed "break" from all things TTC-related, and here I am, back on BB. I'm hopeless.... addicted. Anyway, glad your appointment went well and that you'll be able to do another cycle before the end of the year. How exciting would it be if you got your BFP for Christmas. Good luck with everything. And thanks for the info on the Medicare Safety Net. I'll have to ask some questions at my clinic.

    lise - so sorry to hear your news. Hope you're able to find out some answers next week from your FS. It's just heartbreaking to get so close and have it ripped away. I know exactly how you feel, I've had a similar thing happen to me. Thinking of you.

    Wishes xoxo

  12. #210

    Apr 2009
    Melbourne
    1,069

    Ladies,

    Lise, sorry about your results. You're going through what I am absolutely dreading about next week. Big for you and DH.

    Coral, welcome! And I agree with you about the changes (or non-changes?!) coming next year and have been trying not to think about it. Hopefully Ms Roxon gets a grip and we're all okay next year...or get BFPs this year and don't have to worry about it for now!

    Wishes, congratulations on the results, and make sure you have that break! Have yourself blocked from BB if necessary! There's no break if you're sitting at your computer!

    Nix, there's a good chance you're at the same Clinic as me (East Melbourne?), cause what the Nurse said to you today sounds like the language they used with me. And I did find the first BFN hard to take, although I generally allow myself a few tears each time...I don't know whether it becomes easier or I've just become more jaded... Big for you.

    Emstar and Colour, welcome - feel free to ask lots of questions and/or lurk around. Plenty of support here!

    Hi to everyone I missed, thinking of you all.

    AFM, I got a surge yesterday morning, predicting O today. We have 6 Day 2 embryos on ice, all 6 will be cultured to blastocyst, and hopefully there'll be at least one to transfer back. The thing is, we've been operating on the presumption that only one or two will make it to Day 5 - but the Nurse called today and wanted to know what I would do with the 'extras' - any that reach Day 5 that we don't have transferred. She seemed to think we would just destroy them...as if freezing them would be stupid. Has anyone else had any experience with freezing blasties? Wishes, you seem to be freezing blasties - why would my Clinic be reluctant to refreeze them? FS said he would, but he seemed reluctant and even said "we'll have to decide that at the time." Why wouldn't we refreeze them?

    So...I guess I'm officially in my 7th TWW...blasty transfer (if any make it that far ) next Wednesday...I'm really freaking out that the phone call will be "sorry, none of them made it" but trying not to think about it. I suppose one positive if none of them make it is that we'll be signing up for another stim cycle before 1 January 2010, so we'll avoid the changes, if there are any.

    to you all

    Seph

  13. #211
    Registered User

    May 2009
    110

    Hey Seph - I don't think the problem is with freezing blasties, because there should be no problem with doing that. But maybe the issue is thawing them from their first freeze, and then re-freezing them again. There could be difficulties with that (but of course I'm no doctor so couldn't really say). Our experience with freezing blasties is that they're grown to blasties in the first place, and then frozen. Then they're thawed when needed. But I have also wondered the same thing. What happens if they end up thawing more than they need? Would they just re-freeze them? I just don't know. I also wonder that maybe there could be issues with re-freezing the blasties in that each time they're frozen/thawed, their quality could drop. Hope you can find out some answers from your FS/clinic next week. Good luck with everything next week. I have high hopes for you and will be praying like mad that this is the one that finally works for you.

    PS - I know that I'm supposed to be on a break from BB, but I will definitely be lurking and checking on your progress because I'll be dying to find out what happens with you.

    Wishes xoxo

  14. #212
    Registered User

    Oct 2008
    200

    Hi all, I hope you are all enjoying the beautiful sunshine....

    Seph - hiya. I am in exactly the same boat as you. Waiting do do first FET. (In a perfect world it would be happening this week, but am having lining issues and have now been bleeding on & off since U/S on Wed.. sorry TMI)

    I also have 6 x 2 day frozen embies. I was originally thinking of getting them to day 3, transferring a good one and then sending the rest to blastocyst as she said only 3 were really good before freezing.

    The new embryologist at my clinic has suggested sending them all to blastocyst and if we are lucky enough to have any leftovers, they will be re-frozen (I feel a bit funny about the re-freezing thing but am putting my trust in her).
    It is like going to the casino and throwing all your cash on black/red, certainly very nerve-wracking.
    I too am s%^#scared about having nothing left and having to start all over, but having been thru one stim cycle, figure I can get thru another, although personally, I think I will send them straight to blast next time.

    Nix - Big hugs to you. I hope that you are feeling a little better. It is so hard to pick yourself up from disappointment but you will get there. I hope you are being kind to yourself.

    Wishes - I can relate, even when I have had nothing to contribute or have been at a waiting stage in my cycle, I find it hard to keep from checking in on all you lovely ladies.

    Emstar & Colour - I'm sure you will find this thread to be full of great supportive people like I have

    Lise - Your self medication dosage is from he exact same script I often find myself using after each disappointment (although mine is VERY heavy on the icecream side of things) There is nothing that you could have done differently, unfortunatley there is so much of this process that is out of our control. I only hope that your FS is able to fine tune your next cycle to give you your BFP straight up.

    Loops - fantastic news that you can get started again a lot sooner than you were expecting. At least next time round, both you and your FS know a lot more about your body's response to meds and can get a great result.

    Mitf - sorry, it is very hard to keep up with this thread.. where are you up to in your cycle?

    Melttc - GL with your cycle. Just remember the golden rule to drink heaps of water. It really does make a difference.

    Juniper - I know you are lurking - I hope you are spoiling yourself a little in your lead up to Oct.

    Hi krikkit & Tracy and anyone else I have missed.

  15. #213
    Registered User

    Apr 2009
    Victoria
    6

    Unhappy Progesterone levels and waiting on test results

    Hi ladies,

    I haven't written in this forum before, but do read often with interest. I have PCOS and been TTC for about 18 months, and have been on some sort of medication for past 7 months (tried Clomid first).

    I am currently undergoing OI using puregon injections. First cycle was cancelled - too many follicles.

    Second cycle seems to have failed - started injections, had US and everything looked good, one follicle developed, did as nurse said, then went back for US about 1 week later and it appeared that O had occurred as follicle was collapsing. Blood test 1 week after estimated O to check progesterone levels and confirm O, 8 days later (on the day we estimated that my period would have been due) i got a call from the nurse to say my progesterone levels were very low and it looks like i hadn't ovulated at all....so basically went through the TWW and was starting to get excited as i hadn't got my period, only to be brought quickly back to earth because it's probably because i hadn't even ovulated. So i was just wondering, how long has it taken other ladies to get blood test results back?

  16. #214
    Registered User

    Aug 2009
    Back in the bush Capital
    660

    Good morning ladies,

    thanks for all your well wishes over the last few days. I'm certainly feeling a lot better this morning (I think i've eaten the sadness out of my system!) and looking forward to chatting with FS this week to see where we can go from here. I'm very keen to get straight back into it so hopefully he agrees...

    Coral - GL with your next stim cycle. Here's hoping it goes well.

    Wishes - your hatching blastie is the one. I'm still getting my head around the process, but from what you were saying about hatching blasties, it does sound promising.

    Seph - hope your transfer goes well next week. I'll be thinking of you.

    Tantee - GL with your FET next week. It's such an awful time waiting to hear you've got the go ahead isn't it?

    Ally G - i'm only new to all of this, and so far have only had to wait for one set of blood test results which I received that afternoon. Hopefully your clinic can explain the processes in a bit more detail for you so you know what to expect.

    Hello to everyone else, hope you're enjoying your weekend :-)

    cheers,
    lise xx

  17. #215
    Registered User

    Aug 2009
    Melbourne
    56

    Hey all

    Lise and NIx

    Hello I had a few days away from TTC and it felt nice - everyone kept asking me if I was going to have a few drinks when I got the news but at the time felt I didn't need it. My work place had an after work drinks thing on Fri and I have been ignoring them for a few months but thought WTH... I planned on having 'a drink' ahhhem Well had a bit of a hangover on Sat...

    One thing... I got a call from Dr Burmeister's room's (my FS) and they said she would like to make an app to start my next cycle... when she got back from holidays or something on Oct 12th. I couldn't talk much as was about to go into a meeting but I said "So I have to wait till she gets back to start again??" Assistant got off phone pretty quick I am thinking of changing FS

    Lots of to all

  18. #216
    Registered User

    Dec 2008
    Leongatha - South Gippsland, Victoria
    1,140

    Hi lovely ladies

    Wishes ~ I was the same, said I was having a break from BB and then I think the next day I was back in. Everyone is just so nice and supporting its too hard to stay away.
    Thanks for your wishes - - it would be a great Xmas present wouldnt it. Also DH and my 30th brirthdays are early next year (Jan/Feb).
    I hope the time flies for you ET and FX.

    Seph ~ all the best for this week, your ET. Really hope you get a sticky one transferred. FX

    Tantee ~ thanks, I really hope we can get some improvement next round, I think my FS is great and I trust he will.
    When will you have your FET?

    AllyG - hi and . My BT results have always come the same day or next day - my nurses etc are all really good, so Im not sure if others are generally the same. All the best with everything. FX for you.

    Lise ~ GL with your FS appointment. Hope you can get back in there ASAP!

    Onja ~ Hope you find a good FS. I reccommend Dr Mac Talbot - Monash IVF. GL

    AFM ~ I think AF will arrive at some stage today. I know my body too well.

    Hi to anyone Ive missed - all the best for a wonderful week!

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