I agree, that you should be able to put BFP and pregnancy info up and celebrate it with those you have got to know and who have been on the journey with you. I just read that it is a rule on this site? If you don't remove them, they will do it for you or something like that.
Thank you for your kind words. I understand how frustrating it must be when there's nothing wrong and you're left to wonder why it isn't happening. But it will happen, it will, like I said, you do have time.
I'm 36 in December and really, really hope to have delivered my miracle before my 37th birthday! I kick myself for waiting this long, but who knew? I can't torture myself that way. I never knew I wanted to have a baby until I met my husband and until we started trying about 3.5 years ago.
Hang in there, Loops, be strong, it can and will happen.
I noticed you said you don't have any more money to try again. Since I have only been on US forums, I never really found out how much IVF costs in Australia because I know it is significantly different to the US. Are you able to tell me? Do you mind? When I spoke to Medicare about it a few years ago, they told me that the most you would spend out of pocket is around $1,000 per cycle, is that right? Maybe plus meds?
For me, I think it will run to around $3500 or $4000 after rebate from Medicare but it all depends on whether you have private care to assist with the EPU costs and other costs your clinic has. My FS costs and tests all really added up fast before we even went for the IVF option so we had hit the medicare saftey net before starting the actual IVF treatment this year. It's very different clinic to clinic and FS to FS. Also worth noting for you (luckily) when I looked at pricing on line before starting I noticed that the price in Melbourne clinic (well the one I saw anyway) was about 30% cheaper than Sydney and no extra cost for ICSI - which was extra again for us.
I think there's a thread on BB with more info. as I was really worried about this too and found it somewhere in here - unfortunately cannot find the link now.
Completely understand hon. It's really hard to get excited for everyone else when you're not actively going through a cycle or some form of action. But maybe when your natural remedies start working wonders on DH SA you'll let us all know what the trick is. I really hope you're wrong about AF and fingers still remain crossed for you
Caroline, As for the BFP postings I think the rules are that you shouldn't put them in the middle of your post - ie the big flashing loggo ones but I think everyone on here is dying to know when someone gets a posistive and so far I haven't seen anyones news removed when they have. I think if you are sensitive about what you post then there shouldn't be a problem. I know I'm dying to hear any BFPs from the group here.
Sorry it's only a short one ladies as I have to leave for my ET at 1:15pm so just a quick "hi" to the rest of you and as always GL to us all.
AFM: I have had a bit of bad news this morning. All my embies stopped splitting bar two (can't believe I lost 10 of them since Saturday). We are still going ahead with transfer of the two remaining blasties but I am devastated that we have no back up plan. Added to that DH is not exactly being supportive about the news is making for a very depressed me going in for transfer today. MEN - . Trying to stay chipper but devastated that if this doesn't work I now have no back up plan and will have to go through the whole bloody cycle again.
Jasminstar - sorry to hear that most of your embies have stopped splitting but GL for your ET today. Hopefully 1 or both of them will be a keeper and you won't need the back up plan anyway! Just though I would mention that when I spoke to my clinic they said that legally then can keep the embies going to day 6 before they have to freeze them. Which is good because it can give the slow ones a chance to catch up. I don't know if it's possible for ones that have stopped splitting to continue once they have had a snooze? Maybe your clinic can keep them going till tomorrow to see what happens.
Caroline - thanks for all your support. Will let you know how we go further down the track.
Yeh I read that somewhere too ages ago but have never seen anyone BFP's etc being deleted so that is good, as others have said I think you just have to be sensitive.
Don't mind at all - ask anything you like.
We have gone through Monash IVF Sale clinic (country Victoria)
Our prepayment was $4,660.00, plus there was the Synarel spray which was $100/bottle. Then just the day procedure costs - EPU was $280 and ET was $200. Then for the U/S and B/T's I just gave my medicare card. But as others have said i think it varies a bit from clinic to clinic. Im not too sure how much of that we will get back from Medicare but I understand we will get some back fairly soon - I bloody hope so as we are broke.
Mitf - thanks for your kind words and thoughts. Will keep you posted down the track. Wishing you all the very best and you will be in my thoughts x
Jasminstar - all the very best with the ET - I really hope and will have evrything crossed that your remainder emby's do well. I know how you feel to not have any in reserve - its not good at all. But hopefully it wont matter for you. Someone has to get a BFP and you deserve this. All the best x
Jasminstar - thanks for the info on IVF costs. I appreciate it will vary, but it's a good gauge. In the US they pay around 10x that! Their "medicare" equivalent is not as good as ours too from what I hear, we're pretty lucky here in Oz!
Thanks for the welcome. I'm sorry to hear you lost some embies, however GL with your ET today with the remaining two to you!
Mift - thanks for your info too. GL with your cells (do you mean follies? I have to get used to the new terminology!)
Loops - thanks for the info. I guess we'll cross that bridge (IVF cost) when we come to it but it's good to have an idea. You take care and hope to see you here again soon.
As for the posting of BFP info. It's the first post on this thread where I read it. That's great then that it is not as strict as all that as I think it would be nice to share my BFP with the girls I'm cycling with and with whom I'm sharing all my good and bad days. I would want you all to share your BFPs too. It makes sense just to be sensitive about it.
Well I think it's going to be fun hanging out here and getting to know you all and I wish each and every one of us the best of luck and to all!
Hi Loops12, Sorry to hear about your BFN. I understand completely about wanting to lie low (as I have done in the last couple of weeks after BFN). If it is any consolation, I just did my medicare refund for my treatment and got $950 dollars back from the $1450 that I paid upfront for my treatment. So we were only $500 out of pocket. I know this is still a fair amount but is nowhere near what I know other people have paid out. My FS is a non profit organisation where all proceeds go back into the clinic. Perhaps there is one near your city that operates similarly? Maybe it can speed up your next attempt in comparison to the more expensive alternatives?
Mitf - hope your embies continue to split well for you. Are you getting daily updates?
To all the newcomers - welcome and Good luck for your cycles.
To everyone else - Have been popping in and keeping an eye on you all but have been ahibernating a bit and also extremely busy with work. I have my fingers crossed for all of you.
Hope you don't mind me popping in to say hi! Just thought I would reply and update babycat on what the costs have been for us - as a comparrison - although similar to Loops reply.
We are with Melbourne IVF and going with a down reg ICSI cycle. DH has good sperm; good count, good strong swimmers, just abnormal heads which mean they can't penetrate the egg by themselves. Costs for MIVF are:
$5300 payable up front (80% of this should come back to us at end of cycle from Medicare through the safety net - and that is only because we have already reached out $1100 out of pocket expense level before paying that)
$225 - new patient admin fee (not claimable through medicare - but currently seeing if my private will cover it)
$100 - synarel (claiming from private - think I get about $30 back)
$80 a visit to FS (claimable through medicare - think I get about $30 back)
Not sure on costs for EPU & ET - there are hospital costs but as I have private some of it will be covered.
So I think in a very estimated guess I think per cycle it will cost us around $1500 out of pocket - and that is only because we have already met our safety net quota.
I have been on synarel now for 13 days and have my first scan tomorrow and can hopefully start injections then to get on to the next stage. Eveything possible is crossed for a BFP first go - but I'm trying not to get my hopes up as I know the odds are not that high.
Anyway - will keep an eye on this thread as there are a few of you at around the same stage which is always good to read about!
Loops - sorry to hear that AF has arrived hon. I wish you all the best as you take a break and gather your thoughts. GL with saving up for your next IVF. I am sure you will get there soon and one day you too will get your little BFP miracle.
BabyCat - You can post your BFP status on the site, there are just certain threads that you are asked to show discretion in. Re out-of pocket costs for IVF - this varies depending on how much the clinic charges and wether you have reached the Medicare safety net. My clinic is quiet reasonably priced and I have reached the safety net. I will be out-of-pocket $1,000 for the IVF but then there are other expenses like hospital excess for EPU, the anaesthetist charges and I am also having acupuncture. The Medicare rules are also set to change from 1 Jan and it will get more expensive.
AFM - I have just received my Day 3 update. The nurse said that they like to see the embies with 5-8 cells at this stage. We currently have 1 that hasn't moved, 1 x 3 cell, 1 x 4 cell, 2 x 5 cell 1 x 6 cell and 1 x 8 cell. So it looks like we might loose at least one more, but hopefully some of the others will catch up.
Last edited by mitf; August 10th, 2009 at 04:57 PM.
. Trying to stay chipper but devastated that if this doesn't work I now have no back up plan and will have to go through the whole bloody cycle again.
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