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Thread: Long Term TTC & Assisted Conception ~ December 2006

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    Thanks so much for the warm welcome and the support! I really do appreciate it! It makes this whole transition a *lot* less scary.

    I've been having acupuncture for a while now - I've just returned from an appointment now, in fact, and I feel immensely better for it. She didn't even need to hit the spots she normally uses to calm me down (which always seem to hurt like hell!), but we did spend half an hour just talking over everything that was said yesterday. The fact that the acupuncturist I've grown to know and love and rely on heavily in all this agrees with the FS on all things except for the varicocele repair is comforting and makes getting my head around the whole thing much easier. We're taking a slightly longer term view with the varicocele repair... use the IVF+ICSI to get somewhere now, but long term the aim is for me to continue to work on the PCOS and insulin issues so that I will continue to become healthier not only through the IVF process and pregnancy, but we've got to look at this as a lifestyle change for the rest of my life... the hope is that with the varicocele fixed and me getting everything sorted out, that in the future we'll be in a better state to attempt natural conception once again.



    Hollybolly, thanks so much for all that information - it does make me feel a whole lot better about my ability to cope with it all while working.

    Dreambub, as much as the logical, sensible side of my brain could see the reasoning behind going back on the pill for a bit, the more emotive side of things was just screaming about it! This is the same one that I was taking before (I took a slightly higher dose for most of my 13 years on the pill, but the last few were on this lower dose one), and I did notice that once I went off it, my weight was so much harder to control, so I can certainly see the advantages of being on it during this time when we're trying to get everything sorted out to start. It's also a bit of a relief to give up the temping for a bit - it's second nature to me now to reach for the thermometer as soon as I wake up, so I will have to put it somewhere else so I actually stop... but I'm looking forward to just ignoring it for a while.

    Boo... matey. I'm glad there's some familiarity here at least!

    BW

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    Looks like there are quite a few new girls in here which is good, we can all start out together.

    Just thought I'd pop in to tell you i just did my first injection Was so easy and didn't hurt at all. I'm feeling a bit proud right now!

    I've realised this week that having so many friends who've done IVF definately has it's down side. The things I've done this week to keep my big secret include:

    * Wearing a cardigan in 40 degree Sydney heat to cover a massive bruise on my arm from my last bt so the girls wouldn't see it

    * Lying to my friends (and MIL) about why I had to catch an earlier train to work

    * Lying to my friends about missing the train because I had to smuggle home my big blue cooler bag containing my injections

    * Trying to come up with a viable excuse to miss a dear friend's kitchen tea because I think that's the day of our transfer

    So all in all, feeling like a bit of a scoundrel I know I am doing the right thing for me though. I don't need the whole world sitting around waiting for the outcome.

    Holly - I'm glad your surgery went well. I had a very similar surgery in November - same problem (stoopid adhesions). My right side is all clear (FS reckons 5% chance per cycle of natural conception) but left side is NOT good. Damaged tube and ovary (had a large cyst removed from my left side in May 06 which is what has caused all the damage).

    BW and I are old friends, we've been hanging out together in the clomid/met thread for a while (for too long really!) but now we're here and giving ourselves the best possible chance BW. Glad to have you along for the ride!

    I'm sorry for not doing more personals, I think I need a bit more time to get to know everyone first.

    I'd better go before I melt. Our PC is in the hottest room of the house and it's a scorcher here tonight.

    Take care everyone.
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    More friendly faces! Willow, I'm glad the injections aren't as painful as I was imagining! I think it's still going to be a while before we start for real, though... I'm so sick of feeling hot, and feeling sick, I'm just glad there's a bit of a change expected through tonight. I think I want to go back to the strangely cool summer weather we were having.

    BW

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    BW, I promise you, the needles are nothing to be anxious about. I was nervous, but not about it hurting, i was worried about stuffing up my dose etc. It really is fine once you know how.

    The weather has been horrid! I hope that cool changes comes through soon. Today is looking a bit better but hard to tell this early.

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    HI guys......long time no talk......I have kinda been hibernating away from the belly threads having a mental break before we start IVF. I hope everyone is doing well and heading that bit closer towards those elusive BFPs. As for me it is cycle day 3 today (oops cycle day four - it's after midnight ). I start the BCP on Wednesday and then we are into the down reg cycle full swing.
    How's this for luck though.....As you can read from my sig we are getting married on February 24th. Well, count 42 days from Saturday just gone and what do you get - February 24th......we are timed to have an egg pick up on our wedding day - OMG!!! I reckon that is just a classic!
    Because we are having PGD, thay can only do one patient a day through the specialised microscopes and testing machinery so they will have to manipulate the cycle to fit the EPU in with the timetable so I said can we kinda try to avoid that weekend. They are now going to leave me on the pill for an extra week so now EPU will be around 2nd March, which is when Hubby is supposed to be in Sydney at the annual trade fair!!! You can't win I tell ya. I told him he will have to make his deposit and then catch a fast plane up there later....hehehe.

    Willow congrats on the needles, I know for a lot of people it is a big deal so a huge woohoo. For me it is not quite so daunting, having type one diabetes means many needles a day so one more here or there is nothing but I can understand other people not being so enamoured of them. My biggest issue is the synarel spray. I have a really dodgy stomach and anything that tastes bad will set me off so I am the nutta who has asked to take lucrin injections instead!! Oh and welcome BW, nice to see you have moved over from the clomid thread - well not nice to see you, you should be on the ark by now as we all should, but you know what I mean.

    Glad to hear you surgery went well Holly, I can't scroll back any further so I hope everyone is doing well, Shaz, Megan, Boo, Zap, 2Mums, Jo, Pauline, Macca and anyone else I missed. Welcome Ltl Panda, RainbowGirl, Holly and especialyy to Lara - glad to see you have taken the plunge and joined us in here. That's a bumma about Alana not coping well with the smoke, I was wondering how she was getting along, we must have another meetup soon to catch up. Baby dust and sticky vibes to everyone - I have a feeling in my waters that 2007 is going to be OUR YEAR!!

    P.S. any ideas on what to do with mothers who say they want to do the bridal dresses and then want to do them their way not the way I want them - friggin riggin aaargh!!!!
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    Hi all,

    I just wanted to let you all know that tiggy has recently joined the LT forums as a moderator. Tiff used to to inhabit the LTTTC forums when I was there and is the most wonderful, sympathetic ear if you ever need one!

    I've been a little MIA lately, for which I need to apologise. But I'm back and hoping to catch up!

    love
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    Hey Mel!Thanks for the welcome. We definitely need to catch up soon.

    Just a question for anyone. When you did your first cycle did you have to wait long to get a place? We have our 2nd app with the FS on the 29th. In fact I think I would like to start in April after we come back from Tassie. Do they allow you to choose? It gives me some more time to loose abit more weight.

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    Talking HELLO!

    hi guys,
    i am about to embark on IVF on 29 Jan. well our first appointment with Dr Mazzucchelli of Concept fertility clinic. I am getting so nervous! we already have two gorgeous boys but i have had a tubal ligation and we REALLY want to have another! Its great to have found this forum and you guys all seem so supportive of one another and i guess for people who want to keep it to themselves they can find some relief here. I am so nervous of the injections and procedures and hope we will be accepted into the clinic as i am only 41kgs and have always been a featherweight( which really sux!)anyway enough about me i hope you are all healthy, happy and relaxed

    Cheers.

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    Hi and welcome sonya. I went to Concept too after trying for 4 years after a (failed) tubal ligation reversal. I saw Dr Nichols there. I personally think you're in great hands with that particular clinic!

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    It's been a day of very mixed news here... DH interviewed for a new job, and got offered it on the spot! :eek: It pays more than the current company, which is fantastic news when we are about to embark on IVF! Add that to the new teaching award I'm under which also gives us more money, plus DH being paid all the holiday pay that is owing to him as he leaves the current company... I'm feeling a whole lot more comfortable about this! We had enough in savings to get us through the first stim cycle and a transfer or two, but with this news, I at least know we're not going to be wiping out *all* of our reserves.

    But... I've also found out that DH is going to be away for a couple of days in March... it's probably not going to be a problem, but I just don't know what the timetable is to know when I can expect EPU.

    I'm currently on the pill, and have been told to stay on the active tablets up until the 8th of February when our next appointment is. I'm not entirely sure whether I'll start straight away, or need to have AF, then start, I just can't get my head around all the different protocols and time frames which all assume that I'll know when I'm going to get AF... I guess I will know, as it will be coming off the pill now, but I'm thoroughly confused!

    Can anyone help an IVF newbie out with what I can expect from here?

    BW

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    BW,

    I am thinking that you're probably going to start cycling in early to mid Feb? If so, you're DH will have to be there only on the day of EPU, and that's usually only about 14 days from the first day of AF. And if it looks like he may not be (Murphy's Law), then you can get his sample frozen ahead of time if need be.

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    Ok... with the days DH will need to be away being the 17th and 18th of March, we should be fine, unless they want to stretch me out to suit their timetable, or something. It's all the tiny little details which are worrying me now. I've been told that my doctor only does EPU on Fridays, if it needs to be done on another day, then one of the other doctors does it... I'm not sure I like the idea of some random doctor I've never met before doing my EPU - but I'm not sure how easy it is to manipulate things to happen specifically on a particular day.

    I can see myself generating an enormous list of questions before the next appointment!

    BW

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    Hello ladies!
    I'm new to bb and this thread but having just read back a page or 2, I feel like I will be comfy with you all in no time!! A little about myself: I'm in country SA and go to repromed in Adelaide. We tried IVF and ICSI about 6 years ago, a few times and have had a break (for mental health reasons!!! as I'm sure many of you understand) and have done the naturopath stuff etc. We are just embarking on the IVF journey again and have found Repromed has undergone many changes since we were last there. Also, goody goody for us, the testing they can do now has improved a lot. Hubby has low and mostly imotile but I seem to be pretty okwise. We are in the process of having Y deletion tests and carrier type test: that came back today as "Normal" so hopefully YDeletion will come back ok too and we can continue to use DH sperm. We have been told we will be going to start cycle at end-of-febAF so should be some time near my birthday!! what a nice pressie a BFP would be in time for DH b'day.
    Is there anyone in this group that has been TTC for as long as me? Am I the world record holder? I feel a little alone and am having a tough time this last year with friends and rellies with babes and preggers, so am hoping to get to know you all well soon.
    thanks for listening,

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    Hello ladies a quick one from me as i have to get going to work!!(first week back)

    Well i was right about all my posts b4 im gonna have a hard time this year, for those of you that dont know, i work in a babys room and have been placed in there for the second year, but this year there are NO walkers and i have found the lifting a struggle already. The girl i work with is wonderful and caring and wants to help me and do everything but thats not fare on her. I spoke to my boss several times at the end of the year and she just said you'll be right!!!!

    I spoke to my old boss and she said that she couldnt understand y she was doing that knowing that i have been on light duties so much over the last few years, i dont know what to do im feeling very stressed about it all, and i have just been permoted so i dont want to be whinging. What do you girls thing?

    Also wanted to say i called my nurse and im doing a natural cycle which i have never done b4 - so im looking forward to the differences.

    have a great day and talk later xx

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    Eeep! I'm afraid that I don't have any real suggestions, loula. Although, I am wondering if a medical certificate from a doctor would allow you to switch permanently to another room where there is less lifting? It's not as though this is a minor problem we are dealing with here... but I can imagine how you don't want to make waves after the promotion. I'm a high school teacher, and I spent term 4 of last year battling to be able to keep my job, and now I'm going to walk in this year and tell them I'm about to start IVF - just the principal and my head of department, but it's still a daunting prospect! Good luck with whatever you decide to do.

    A natural cycle is where you take no medications and just wait for ovulation to occur, then put an embryo back? I don't suppose that would ever be an option for me, as I simply don't ovulate at all. Although, my FS did mention that he only uses injections for full cycles with EPU (I've got so much to learn here!), but for transfers, he likes to allow the body to produce it's own hormones, but doesn't use clomid... so I'm really wondering how he's going to deal with someone like me - he does know about the complete lack of ovulation! I can only guess that there's another drug that works in a similar way, that I haven't heard of yet.

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    Hi sazzafrazz,

    I'm afraid you're probably not the record holder for how long you're been on the rollercoaster. There is another thread Long Term Assisted Conception here, for those who have been undergoing IVF for a long time, and there are many there who have tried for while now. I was one myself.

    Feel free to post in either thread, as I'm sure you'll find support from those going through the same things as you are. Good luck for the results of your upcoming tests and roll on you Feb cycle!

    Loula, I would still talk to your boss again. Just keep reminding her that you need to be on light duties. I think it's in our nature as women not to want to rock the boat, but you know you'd forever be wondering if you could have been more assertive if you don't talk to her and get it resolved. Good luck, matey!

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    hi all

    i've kinda been stalking you all (in the bestest way possible) for a couple of weeks, and it's now official that i join your ranks as someone undergoing assisted conception, so i guess i should introduce myself - have had an astronomical number of tests recently when clomid wasn't working, and after the latest BT this morning, was given the news that i have to start synarel for IUI prep. i've known for a while that this was a possibility (probability!), but after getting the news today, i'm in two minds as to how i feel - on one hand, i'm happy that we have a plan of attack, and time frame of where we're going, but on the other hand, i'm feeling - i don't know - almost depressed! i have known for a long time that there was something up the creek with my cycle, but i guess even through the treatment on clomid and stuff i hoped that nature might step in again and we'd not have to go through this... i think a lot of my stress at the moment is work related, but DH and i have decided that, if work gives me too much grief, he'll go back to his old job, and then we can afford for me to either cut extra days or (if things get too bad) quit altogether (hehehe - stress dealt with!)

    anyway, enough moping - i pick up the script for synarel tonight and we're off! i've decided this is going to be a positive experience - we're working toward a - and that's GOT to be something to look forward to!

    i have met a few of the girls in this thread in the metformin/clomid thread - looking forward to getting to (briefly) know the rest of you - let's hope that none of us is in here too long!

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    Ooooh another one of my clomid friends - welcome BG!

    About the synarel, the thing I meant (in the other thread) was it tastes horrid, that's all. It's not too bad and apart from feeling a bit irritable in the first week or so, I haven't had any side effects.

    Not much happening here. Have another bt in the morning to see where we're at. I'm guessing my epu will be sometime next week?? Freaking about a bit about it now, I must admit. This will be the 3rd time in 9 months I've gone under a general and I'm a bit over it to be honest! I don't get sick or anything so that's a bonus I guess. I'm terrified of waking up and seeing that number on my hand. The closer my epu gets the more I am thinking about the possiblity of going through all of this and being lucky enough to fall prg and then having another m/c. I don't think I would survive that. Guess I just need to try and stay positive, there's really not much else I can do.

    Loula - I think BW had a good idea with that medical certificate - if you got one from your FS or GP wouldn't they have to accept it and change your working conditions accordingly? It's a hard thing to stand up for yourself, I hate confrontation.

    Lara - we didn't have to wait at all to start our cycle. Just happened that our follow up appt with our FS (after my latest lap) happened at the right time in my cycle (albeit a bit rushed thru due to xmas/new year) and we started straight away.

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